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Classics - 26th - 29th Jan 2018 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier
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Subject: Classics - 26th - 29th Jan 2018 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2018-01-15 6:39 PM (#24029) (#24029) Top


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Link for rules and other details about Puzzle Ramayan: http://logicmastersindia.com/PR/2018pr.asp
Instructions for Classics - http://logicmastersindia.com/PR/201801/
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Subject: Re: Classics - 26th - 29th Jan 2018 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2018-01-21 5:28 PM (#24084 - in reply to #24029) (#24084) Top


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Logic Masters India announces Classics - first episode of Puzzle Ramayan 2018

Dates : 26th - 29th January

Instruction Booklet & Submission : Link

Author : Rohan Rao

ghirsch
Subject: Re: Classics - 26th - 29th Jan 2018 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2018-01-23 8:59 AM (#24097 - in reply to #24029) (#24097) Top




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In Open Doors, should there be a rule that any two rooms must have a path between them? Or is this only coincidentally the case in the example?
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Subject: Re: Classics - 26th - 29th Jan 2018 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2018-01-23 11:25 AM (#24098 - in reply to #24097) (#24098) Top


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The instructions say " All rooms are interconnected by doors."
ghirsch
Subject: Re: Classics - 26th - 29th Jan 2018 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2018-01-23 12:28 PM (#24099 - in reply to #24029) (#24099) Top




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Sorry, I meant a path of open doors. To be honest, the statement "all rooms are interconnected by doors" seems meaningless since it sounds like every border between cells is a door (open if you can see through it, and closed if not). Though maybe I'm still missing something.
amitsowani
Subject: Re: Classics - 26th - 29th Jan 2018 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2018-01-23 4:31 PM (#24101 - in reply to #24099) (#24101) Top



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ghirsch - 2018-01-23 12:28 PM

Sorry, I meant a path of open doors. To be honest, the statement "all rooms are interconnected by doors" seems meaningless since it sounds like every border between cells is a door (open if you can see through it, and closed if not). Though maybe I'm still missing something.


Yes the rule is not clear to me as well. Can you clarify if the usual rule for Doors puzzle, that any two rooms should have a path between them through open doors (or no set of rooms should be isolated through closed doors) is required for solving the puzzles or not.
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Subject: Re: Classics - 26th - 29th Jan 2018 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2018-01-24 11:28 AM (#24103 - in reply to #24101) (#24103) Top


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ghirsch - 2018-01-23 12:28 PM

Sorry, I meant a path of open doors. To be honest, the statement "all rooms are interconnected by doors" seems meaningless since it sounds like every border between cells is a door (open if you can see through it, and closed if not). Though maybe I'm still missing something.

amitsowani - 2018-01-23 4:31 PM

Yes the rule is not clear to me as well. Can you clarify if the usual rule for Doors puzzle, that any two rooms should have a path between them through open doors (or no set of rooms should be isolated through closed doors) is required for solving the puzzles or not.

Rules have been modified "Each cell in the grid represents a room. Some doors are open, while the others are closed. The number inside a room indicates the number of rooms that can be seen (through open doors) from it in all four directions, including itself. All rooms are interconnected by open doors. Draw the closed doors."

Answer keys have been modified: "Enter number of vertical closed doors in the marked rows and number of horizontal closed doors in the marked columns."

Updated IB shall be uploaded later today.
vopani
Subject: Re: Classics - 26th - 29th Jan 2018 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2018-01-24 7:08 PM (#24106 - in reply to #24029) (#24106) Top


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Rules of Doors (a.k.a. Vista) puzzle is exactly same as in WPC 2017 Instruction Booklet.
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Subject: Re: Classics - 26th - 29th Jan 2018 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2018-01-25 3:18 PM (#24108 - in reply to #24029) (#24108) Top


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A lookback at past winners of PR 'Classics' contests:


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Subject: Re: Classics - 26th - 29th Jan 2018 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2018-01-25 10:05 PM (#24109 - in reply to #24029) (#24109) Top


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Updated Instructions Booklet


The updated IB is available now at http://logicmastersindia.com/PR/201801/

The only change is the rewording of instructions for Doors puzzle.

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Subject: Re: Classics - 26th - 29th Jan 2018 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2018-01-25 11:10 PM (#24110 - in reply to #24109) (#24110) Top


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Puzzle Booklet

The PB is available now at http://logicmastersindia.com/PR/201801/

Wish you happy solving!

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Subject: Re: Classics - 26th - 29th Jan 2018 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2018-01-25 11:54 PM (#24111 - in reply to #24110) (#24111) Top


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Good luck to all participants!

The test has now started.
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Subject: Re: Classics - 26th - 29th Jan 2018 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2018-01-26 12:09 AM (#24112 - in reply to #24029) (#24112) Top


 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Too many easy puzzles
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Fairly Nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Doors
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Mostly perfect answer keys
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


WA1729
Subject: Re: Classics - 26th - 29th Jan 2018 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2018-01-26 2:05 AM (#24113 - in reply to #24029) (#24113) Top



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Is puzzle 3 supposed to have 10s in the lower left and lower right corner? It didn't seem unique to me but worked nicely with those added. Maybe I'm missing something.

Thanks for a good test!
WA1729
Subject: Re: Classics - 26th - 29th Jan 2018 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2018-01-26 2:19 AM (#24114 - in reply to #24029) (#24114) Top



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 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Black and White and Grey
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Perfect answer keys
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


Favorite Puzzles:

Tents 7
Black and White 12
Number TriLink 20
Black and White and Grey 22

Thank you!
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Subject: Re: Classics - 26th - 29th Jan 2018 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2018-01-26 2:57 AM (#24115 - in reply to #24029) (#24115) Top




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 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Too many easy puzzles
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Black and White and Grey
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Perfect answer keys
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


Are you sure that puzzle no.3 numberlink has unique solution? ;-)
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Subject: Re: Classics - 26th - 29th Jan 2018 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2018-01-26 3:00 AM (#24116 - in reply to #24029) (#24116) Top


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Puzzle Booklet updated

During a change in puzzle booklet to optimize some formatting elements, some givens were missed in a puzzle making it non-unique. This change has been rolled back and we have reverted to the earlier version at 2:55 AM IST (5 minutes prior to this post). As no Indians were impacted, this is the best solution possible at the moment. We apologize to the international participants who tried out the puzzle while it had multiple solutions. If you wish, we can remove your score from LMI ratings consideration.

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Subject: Re: Classics - 26th - 29th Jan 2018 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2018-01-26 3:03 AM (#24117 - in reply to #24115) (#24117) Top


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kousek-nebe - 2018-01-26 2:57 AM

Are you sure that puzzle no.3 numberlink has unique solution? ;-)


WA1729 - 2018-01-26 2:05 AM

Is puzzle 3 supposed to have 10s in the lower left and lower right corner? It didn't seem unique to me but worked nicely with those added. Maybe I'm missing something.

Thanks for a good test!


Explained above. Apologies for the inconvenience. We request that this isn't considered in the puzzle quality rating since there is a best author prize this year! :)
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Subject: Re: Classics - 26th - 29th Jan 2018 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2018-01-26 1:15 PM (#24119 - in reply to #24029) (#24119) Top


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I don't mean to be unappreciative, but I didn't particularly enjoy the mechanics of all the grids were one idea was repeated over and over -- it is funny once in a while but here it made solving quite repetitive and not so enjoyable. (Hitori 5 and 6, tents 8 and 9, loop finder 15, doors 17: each of them had a very nice and rather original underlying idea in principle, but in practice these grids were just not fun to solve). This is a case where trying to have original aesthetics / themes in the puzzle construction actually hurts the puzzle quality in my opinion.

Denis
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Subject: Re: Classics - 26th - 29th Jan 2018 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2018-01-27 4:21 AM (#24120 - in reply to #24029) (#24120) Top


 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Fairly Nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Black and White and Grey
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Answer keys could have been better
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


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Subject: Re: Classics - 26th - 29th Jan 2018 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2018-01-27 5:56 AM (#24121 - in reply to #24029) (#24121) Top



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 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Doors
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Perfect answer keys
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


Wonderful Test !!
Actually went smooth for being starter.
I completed 20 puzzles in 40 min but took like 15 min in just the Doors and BWG big ones.
At the end entering answer keys was little hectic.

My favourite was of course Doors Big and BWG big.

Thanks Rohan for wonderful test.
An LMI player
Subject: Re: Classics - 26th - 29th Jan 2018 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2018-01-27 8:19 AM (#24122 - in reply to #24029) (#24122) Top


 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Black and White and Grey
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Mostly perfect answer keys
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


ghirsch
Subject: Re: Classics - 26th - 29th Jan 2018 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2018-01-27 1:07 PM (#24124 - in reply to #24029) (#24124) Top




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 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Black and White and Grey
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Perfect answer keys
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


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Subject: Re: Classics - 26th - 29th Jan 2018 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2018-01-27 6:43 PM (#24125 - in reply to #24029) (#24125) Top




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 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Too many easy puzzles
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Fairly Nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Black and White and Grey
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Perfect answer keys
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


An LMI player
Subject: Re: Classics - 26th - 29th Jan 2018 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2018-01-27 9:18 PM (#24126 - in reply to #24029) (#24126) Top


 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Average
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Doors
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Mostly perfect answer keys
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


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