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Classics - 26th - 29th Jan 2018 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier
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An LMI player
Subject: Re: Classics - 26th - 29th Jan 2018 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2018-01-27 9:37 PM (#24127 - in reply to #24029) (#24127) Top


 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Too many easy puzzles
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Fairly Nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Black and White and Grey
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Perfect answer keys
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


Joo M.Y
Subject: Re: Classics - 26th - 29th Jan 2018 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2018-01-27 11:07 PM (#24128 - in reply to #24029) (#24128) Top




Posts: 72
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Location: South Korea
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Doors
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Perfect answer keys
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


JonaS2010
Subject: Re: Classics - 26th - 29th Jan 2018 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2018-01-28 2:05 AM (#24129 - in reply to #24029) (#24129) Top




Posts: 22
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Location: Germany
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Too many easy puzzles
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Fairly Nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Doors
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Mostly perfect answer keys
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount


paramesis
Subject: Re: Classics - 26th - 29th Jan 2018 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2018-01-28 5:05 AM (#24130 - in reply to #24029) (#24130) Top


Kaleidoscope Author

Posts: 20
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Location: United States
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Too many easy puzzles
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Loop Finder
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Mostly perfect answer keys
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


I was disappointed with the raster graphics on Black and White and Grey and on Tents (pixellation was really ugly to look at). Also, the interior grid lines in Doors were too dark and thick to be solved in the manner the IB suggests. I ended up drawing X's over borders that contained closed doors and perpendicular lines through doors that were open to create a network of lines. Perhaps slitherlink-style dots would have been better?

Thanks for a great set!
MrLiang
Subject: Re: Classics - 26th - 29th Jan 2018 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2018-01-28 8:46 AM (#24131 - in reply to #24029) (#24131) Top





Posts: 44
2020
Location: Thailand
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Hitori
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Perfect answer keys
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


Helen
Subject: Re: Classics - 26th - 29th Jan 2018 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2018-01-28 10:46 AM (#24134 - in reply to #24029) (#24134) Top




Posts: 4

Location: Australia
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Too many easy puzzles
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Black and White and Grey
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Perfect answer keys
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


chaotic_iak
Subject: Re: Classics - 26th - 29th Jan 2018 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2018-01-28 11:44 AM (#24135 - in reply to #24029) (#24135) Top



Typed Logic Author

Posts: 241
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Location: Indonesia
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Too many easy puzzles
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Fairly Nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Doors
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Mostly perfect answer keys
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


So, clearly there are a bunch of easy puzzles. I know it's for Puzzle Ramayan, though, so on retrospect it's fine, even though I was hoping for better.

My favorite puzzles were the two hardest puzzles: Doors 3 and BWG 2. There are several puzzles that are less than ideal: Numberlink 3 had very similar halves; Hitori 3 had a big frame that ended up not doing anything, just artificially making the puzzle larger; Tents 2 had an answer key that was completely independent from the trees (because the only two solutions before including the trees gave the same answer key); Tents 3 had an obvious solution (there were several other no-number Tents puzzles I've done that were more appealing than this); Loop Finder 3 also ended up just having an artificially larger puzzle size, although it's definitely an interesting parity problem; Doors 2 was extremely repetitive.

Answer keys were mostly good, although I expected "leftmost tent for each row" for Tents and "lengths of segments up until closed doors" for Doors. Whether puzzles are worth the right amount, I can't say since I blazed the test, but I think a few puzzles can have their values adjusted.

Anyway... Well, an okay start for the season. I hope it's going better forward, though.
An LMI player
Subject: Re: Classics - 26th - 29th Jan 2018 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2018-01-28 12:19 PM (#24136 - in reply to #24029) (#24136) Top


 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Too many easy puzzles
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Fairly Nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Doors
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Mostly perfect answer keys
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


prasanna16391
Subject: Re: Classics - 26th - 29th Jan 2018 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2018-01-28 1:40 PM (#24137 - in reply to #24029) (#24137) Top


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chaotic_iak - 2018-01-28 11:44 AM


No particular reason for quoting, I just wanted to say "New, Huge and Challenging Author" is an awesome tag to have :D

As a general point, I actually feel this difficulty is just right for Puzzle Ramayan. Its significantly less challenging than Sudoku Mahabharat but that's reflective of the current solving capabilities in India. Many newer solvers tried this contest and solved a decent number of puzzles. I think that's good, and hopefully it encourages them to be a bit more regular. In Sudoku we have a lot more depth, so its good to have things a little more difficult. Of course, ideally once solvers become regular and continue improving, we can move the difficulty up along with that. Puzzle quality aside, just commenting on difficulty, I would urge other PR authors to keep this difficulty too. I know it may not be as much fun for veteran solvers and it might be a little more difficult to build fun and varied solve paths but the priority of this particular series is to provide a base for Indian talent (and new talent from other countries too) to develop.
ABcDexter
Subject: Re: Classics - 26th - 29th Jan 2018 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2018-01-28 7:04 PM (#24138 - in reply to #24029) (#24138) Top


PR 2020 (MII and Regions) Author

Posts: 47
2020
Location: India
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Numberlink
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Mostly perfect answer keys
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


The level of puzzle was really good, enjoyed a lot :)
kishy72
Subject: Re: Classics - 26th - 29th Jan 2018 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2018-01-28 7:11 PM (#24139 - in reply to #24029) (#24139) Top


SM 2020 (Math) Author

Posts: 417
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Location: India
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Doors
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Mostly perfect answer keys
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


Enjoyed a lot ! First PR round that I got to finish in over 3 years !!

I enjoyed Doors(15) the most followed by Numbertrilink(7) .Thanks for the amazing puzzles !!
chaotic_iak
Subject: Re: Classics - 26th - 29th Jan 2018 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2018-01-28 8:10 PM (#24140 - in reply to #24137) (#24140) Top



Typed Logic Author

Posts: 241
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Location: Indonesia
prasanna16391 - 2018-01-28 4:40 PM

chaotic_iak - 2018-01-28 11:44 AM


No particular reason for quoting, I just wanted to say "New, Huge and Challenging Author" is an awesome tag to have :D

As a general point, I actually feel this difficulty is just right for Puzzle Ramayan. Its significantly less challenging than Sudoku Mahabharat but that's reflective of the current solving capabilities in India. Many newer solvers tried this contest and solved a decent number of puzzles. I think that's good, and hopefully it encourages them to be a bit more regular. In Sudoku we have a lot more depth, so its good to have things a little more difficult. Of course, ideally once solvers become regular and continue improving, we can move the difficulty up along with that. Puzzle quality aside, just commenting on difficulty, I would urge other PR authors to keep this difficulty too. I know it may not be as much fun for veteran solvers and it might be a little more difficult to build fun and varied solve paths but the priority of this particular series is to provide a base for Indian talent (and new talent from other countries too) to develop.


I shouldn't author any more LMI tests so it remains my tag. :P

I do know that PR should be significantly easier. (Hey, there are Indonesian friends with me, and they managed to score around 60%, so I consider that pretty motivating for them.) But even with easy puzzles, I believe one can still make interesting puzzles. Some of the puzzles are really repetitive (those I mentioned); I'm pretty sure it's still possible to tweak them to be much less repetitive, while staying easy and interesting.
An LMI player
Subject: Re: Classics - 26th - 29th Jan 2018 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2018-01-29 12:08 AM (#24141 - in reply to #24029) (#24141) Top


 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Too many easy puzzles
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Fairly Nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Doors
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Mostly perfect answer keys
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


aditi2302
Subject: Re: Classics - 26th - 29th Jan 2018 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2018-01-29 6:14 AM (#24142 - in reply to #24029) (#24142) Top


Neighbours Variations (SM 15/16) Author

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Location: India
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Tents
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Perfect answer keys
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


An LMI player
Subject: Re: Classics - 26th - 29th Jan 2018 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2018-01-29 7:45 AM (#24143 - in reply to #24029) (#24143) Top


 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Too many easy puzzles
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Fairly Nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Number Trilink
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Mostly perfect answer keys
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


An LMI player
Subject: Re: Classics - 26th - 29th Jan 2018 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2018-01-29 11:28 AM (#24145 - in reply to #24029) (#24145) Top


 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Too many easy puzzles
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Black and White and Grey
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Mostly perfect answer keys
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


purifire
Subject: Re: Classics - 26th - 29th Jan 2018 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2018-01-29 12:54 PM (#24147 - in reply to #24029) (#24147) Top



Odd Even & Twisted Classics (SM 16/17) Author

Posts: 460
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Location: India
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Black and White and Grey
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Mostly perfect answer keys
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


PR is a wonderful platform to promote puzzle solving in India. I, being a Sudoku solver primarily, have a mental block against puzzles and never participate coz of that. But today it felt nice taking part in PR and I must say the puzzles were of perfect quality to promote and encourage people to take up puzzle solving.
kiwijam
Subject: Re: Classics - 26th - 29th Jan 2018 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2018-01-29 2:06 PM (#24149 - in reply to #24029) (#24149) Top




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 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Too many easy puzzles
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Black and White and Grey
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Perfect answer keys
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


An LMI player
Subject: Re: Classics - 26th - 29th Jan 2018 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2018-01-29 3:10 PM (#24150 - in reply to #24029) (#24150) Top


 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Black and White and Grey
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Perfect answer keys
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


prasanna16391
Subject: Re: Classics - 26th - 29th Jan 2018 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2018-01-29 5:36 PM (#24151 - in reply to #24029) (#24151) Top


2021 World Sudoku+Puzzle Convention Organizer

Posts: 1763
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Location: India
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Fairly Nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Black and White and Grey
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Mostly perfect answer keys
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


An LMI player
Subject: Re: Classics - 26th - 29th Jan 2018 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2018-01-29 10:09 PM (#24152 - in reply to #24029) (#24152) Top


 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Too many medium difficult puzzles
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Black and White and Grey
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Perfect answer keys
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


An LMI player
Subject: Re: Classics - 26th - 29th Jan 2018 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2018-01-29 10:26 PM (#24154 - in reply to #24029) (#24154) Top


 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Mostly perfect answer keys
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


First on-line competition done for ages. Nice to finish.

utkaarsh
Subject: Re: Classics - 26th - 29th Jan 2018 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2018-01-29 11:28 PM (#24155 - in reply to #24029) (#24155) Top




Posts: 89
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Location: India
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Number Trilink
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Answer keys could have been better
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


greenhorn
Subject: Re: Classics - 26th - 29th Jan 2018 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2018-01-30 12:56 AM (#24156 - in reply to #24029) (#24156) Top


2021 World Sudoku+Puzzle Convention Organizer

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The (earlier?) deadline of PR surprised me a lot. I know I am stupid and reading instructions is the hardest puzzle for me, but usually the contest is open until morning (in Europe). Besides that, I believe that one hour would be enough for me (as the contest page informed me that the competition will be over in 60 minutes), but nevermind, maybe next time...
tamz29
Subject: Re: Classics - 26th - 29th Jan 2018 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2018-01-30 1:12 AM (#24157 - in reply to #24029) (#24157) Top




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With about 30 minutes to go, it didn't let me start the test :(
I thought you could start from when the test had <90 mins to go - and still get 90 mins for the test.
Oh well. Next season :(
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