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Best of LMI Puzzle Tests - December Puzzle Test — 23rd-26th December
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Subject: Best of LMI Puzzle Tests - December Puzzle Test — 23rd-26th December @ 2011-12-19 9:33 PM (#6218) (#6218) Top


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Subject: Re: Best of LMI Puzzle Tests - December Puzzle Test — 23rd-26th December @ 2011-12-20 9:39 AM (#6219 - in reply to #6218) (#6219) Top


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Location: India		Logic Masters India announces December Puzzle Test — Best Of LMI Puzzle Tests

Author : Serkan Yurekli

Dates : 23th - 25th December

Length : 150 minutes

IB and Submission Link : here
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Subject: Re: Best of LMI Puzzle Tests - December Puzzle Test — 23rd-26th December @ 2011-12-20 4:16 PM (#6222 - in reply to #6218) (#6222) Top


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Serbian Puzzle Championship

This test will also be used as Serbian Puzzle Championship. So this test will start at a time which is most convenient to Serbian participants, i.e. at 22:00 hours Serbian time on Friday. Submissions until 00:40 hours (next day) Serbian time will be considered for the championship. So Serbian players must start early enough to permit themselves full solving time.


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Subject: RE: Best of LMI Puzzle Tests - December Puzzle Test — 23rd-26th December @ 2011-12-20 4:19 PM (#6223 - in reply to #6218) (#6223) Top



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Location: India		As noted in the IB, all examples are from the IB of corresponding test. So you can check the actual puzzles in the tests for more practice - here is the link to all puzzle tests pdfs - http://logicmastersindia.com/lmitests/downloads.asp?puzzleTypes=P
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Subject: Re: Best of LMI Puzzle Tests - December Puzzle Test — 23rd-26th December @ 2011-12-20 8:04 PM (#6224 - in reply to #6218) (#6224) Top




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Location: China		The given ships in Sea Battle are wrong. In the solution, there are three 3-cell ships, I think one is missing in the given :)
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Subject: Re: Best of LMI Puzzle Tests - December Puzzle Test — 23rd-26th December @ 2011-12-20 9:13 PM (#6225 - in reply to #6224) (#6225) Top



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Minfang Lin - 2011-12-20 8:04 PM

The given ships in Sea Battle are wrong. In the solution, there are three 3-cell ships, I think one is missing in the given :)
My mistake. Uploaded corrected version.
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Subject: Re: Best of LMI Puzzle Tests - December Puzzle Test — 23rd-26th December @ 2011-12-20 9:21 PM (#6226 - in reply to #6218) (#6226) Top




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Location: China		Someone who needs Chinese translation can download the PDF file here.

Edited by Minfang Lin 2011-12-20 9:22 PM
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Subject: Re: Best of LMI Puzzle Tests - December Puzzle Test — 23rd-26th December @ 2011-12-20 9:37 PM (#6227 - in reply to #6226) (#6227) Top



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Minfang Lin - 2011-12-20 9:21 PM

Someone who needs Chinese translation can download the PDF file here.
Thanks so much. We had few new players from China in the last Sudoku test. Lets hope that repeats this time.
By the way, I find your new method of translation much interesting. I reckon it is easier than the previous method of copying all images.
swaroop2011
Subject: Re: Best of LMI Puzzle Tests - December Puzzle Test — 23rd-26th December @ 2011-12-20 11:48 PM (#6228 - in reply to #6218) (#6228) Top



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Location: India		Somebody please give the steps to solve
1) gapped kakuro - i only got number '6' in the bottom row
and 2)sea battle. not getting the start...
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Subject: Re: Best of LMI Puzzle Tests - December Puzzle Test — 23rd-26th December @ 2011-12-21 6:05 AM (#6229 - in reply to #6228) (#6229) Top


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swaroop2011 - 2011-12-20 11:48 PM

Somebody please give the steps to solve
1) gapped kakuro - i only got number '6' in the bottom row
and 2)sea battle. not getting the start...


In the Sea Battle you have to recognize that there are 22 ship elements. And there are 11 regions. Hence all regions contain exactly 2 ship elements from 2 different ship.
(I think there are just some places where the 4-long ship can be.)
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Subject: Re: Best of LMI Puzzle Tests - December Puzzle Test — 23rd-26th December @ 2011-12-21 12:09 PM (#6230 - in reply to #6229) (#6230) Top



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Valezius - 2011-12-21 6:05 AM

swaroop2011 - 2011-12-20 11:48 PM

Somebody please give the steps to solve
1) gapped kakuro - i only got number '6' in the bottom row
and 2)sea battle. not getting the start...


In the Sea Battle you have to recognize that there are 22 ship elements. And there are 11 regions. Hence all regions contain exactly 2 ship elements from 2 different ship.
(I think there are just some places where the 4-long ship can be.)


thanks got it.
:)
Minfang Lin
Subject: Re: Best of LMI Puzzle Tests - December Puzzle Test — 23rd-26th December @ 2011-12-21 12:35 PM (#6231 - in reply to #6228) (#6231) Top




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swaroop2011 - 2011-12-20 11:48 PM

Somebody please give the steps to solve
1) gapped kakuro - i only got number '6' in the bottom row
and 2)sea battle. not getting the start...


Acorrding to sum, like 31 in r4c3, we can figure out r56789c3 must have digits.
4 in r8c4 shows r8c68 contain 1 and 3, because of the rule "empty cells cannot be adjacent".
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Then
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In Col 9, the sum is 10, so only two more cells can have digits.
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r79c8 must contain digits.
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r7c7?4, r7c8?5, so r7c6 must be blank.
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if r8c8=1, then r7c8?8 r7c8+r7c7?12, so r8c8=3, r8c6=1.
Minfang Lin
Subject: RE: Best of LMI Puzzle Tests - December Puzzle Test — 23rd-26th December @ 2011-12-21 12:44 PM (#6232 - in reply to #6218) (#6232) Top




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In r9c78 only one can be 9, so r7c7=45, r7c8=56,
then r7c9=1->r7c7=4, r7c8=6...
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Subject: Re: Best of LMI Puzzle Tests - December Puzzle Test — 23rd-26th December @ 2011-12-21 12:51 PM (#6233 - in reply to #6231) (#6233) Top



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Minfang Lin - 2011-12-21 12:35 PM

In Col 9, the sum is 10, so only two more cells can have digits.
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Same logic is applicable to 11 in Column6
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Subject: Re: Best of LMI Puzzle Tests - December Puzzle Test — 23rd-26th December @ 2011-12-21 1:00 PM (#6234 - in reply to #6227) (#6234) Top




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debmohanty - 2011-12-20 9:37 PM

Minfang Lin - 2011-12-20 9:21 PM

Someone who needs Chinese translation can download the PDF file here.
Thanks so much. We had few new players from China in the last Sudoku test. Lets hope that repeats this time.
By the way, I find your new method of translation much interesting. I reckon it is easier than the previous method of copying all images.


Only if there is some blank between rule and puzzle image for typing, I can do like this
Do you know the software "HyperSnap"? It's easy to snapshot picture and edit it.
swaroop2011
Subject: Re: Best of LMI Puzzle Tests - December Puzzle Test — 23rd-26th December @ 2011-12-21 1:20 PM (#6235 - in reply to #6233) (#6235) Top



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debmohanty - 2011-12-21 12:51 PM

Minfang Lin - 2011-12-21 12:35 PM

In Col 9, the sum is 10, so only two more cells can have digits.
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Same logic is applicable to 11 in Column6


hey thanks for explaining so clearly ..
only one doubt- how did u got that in column 9 the other two digits has to be in r2 and r4..
Minfang Lin
Subject: Re: Best of LMI Puzzle Tests - December Puzzle Test — 23rd-26th December @ 2011-12-21 1:32 PM (#6236 - in reply to #6235) (#6236) Top




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swaroop2011 - 2011-12-21 1:20 PM

debmohanty - 2011-12-21 12:51 PM

Minfang Lin - 2011-12-21 12:35 PM

In Col 9, the sum is 10, so only two more cells can have digits.
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Same logic is applicable to 11 in Column6


hey thanks for explaining so clearly ..
only one doubt- how did u got that in column 9 the other two digits has to be in r2 and r4..


See the picture before it.
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Remember the rule "empty cells cannot be adjacent", and Col 9 only can have two digits more.
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Subject: Re: Best of LMI Puzzle Tests - December Puzzle Test — 23rd-26th December @ 2011-12-21 1:34 PM (#6237 - in reply to #6218) (#6237) Top



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Subject: Re: Best of LMI Puzzle Tests - December Puzzle Test — 23rd-26th December @ 2011-12-23 12:23 AM (#6241 - in reply to #6218) (#6241) Top


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Location: Slovakia		Maybe this question was answered somewhere before, but I am too lazy to look for it now. In Number Skeleton puzzle does it matter in which direction are the numbers fill in? The IB has also another solution, when you turn it (199, 2X8, 357).
Thanks
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Subject: Re: Best of LMI Puzzle Tests - December Puzzle Test — 23rd-26th December @ 2011-12-23 12:48 AM (#6242 - in reply to #6218) (#6242) Top




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Location: United States		Have the solutions to the practice test been vetted? I believe I found multiple solutions for the Sea Battle. And I found 2 solutions for Liar Slitherlink [the cave end in the lower right that surrounds the 1 in R6C5, could also be shortened to only go around R6C4 and still be valid]. Just checking.
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Subject: Re: Best of LMI Puzzle Tests - December Puzzle Test — 23rd-26th December @ 2011-12-23 1:10 AM (#6243 - in reply to #6242) (#6243) Top


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Location: Slovakia		All the puzzles from IB have only one valid solution. In the Liar Slitherlink you probably forget to use columns, where is also only one incorrect clue.
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Subject: Re: Best of LMI Puzzle Tests - December Puzzle Test — 23rd-26th December @ 2011-12-23 7:09 AM (#6246 - in reply to #6241) (#6246) Top



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greenhorn - 2011-12-23 12:23 AM

Maybe this question was answered somewhere before, but I am too lazy to look for it now. In Number Skeleton puzzle does it matter in which direction are the numbers fill in? The IB has also another solution, when you turn it (199, 2X8, 357).
Thanks

The row/column marking is incorrect here. First row and first column should have been marked. The answer key, in that case, is 199#123 or 123#199.



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Subject: Re: Best of LMI Puzzle Tests - December Puzzle Test — 23rd-26th December @ 2011-12-23 9:44 PM (#6248 - in reply to #6218) (#6248) Top


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Open through Monday

Considering the festive seasons going on, we have decided to keep this test open through Monday. Please check the submission page for exact time in your timezone.


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Subject: Re: Best of LMI Puzzle Tests - December Puzzle Test — 23rd-26th December @ 2011-12-23 9:46 PM (#6249 - in reply to #6218) (#6249) Top


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Announcements

1. Password protected pdf is uploaded. It has 13 pages. First page is a cover page, but there is no points table.
2. As announced above the test is also open on Monday


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Subject: Re: Best of LMI Puzzle Tests - December Puzzle Test — 23rd-26th December @ 2011-12-24 2:31 AM (#6250 - in reply to #6242) (#6250) Top




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brianklimek - 2011-12-23 12:48 AM

Have the solutions to the practice test been vetted? I believe I found multiple solutions for the Sea Battle.


Are you sure there are 2 different ships in each area and not just 2 different ship parts in the alternate solutions? As I made it, I can assure the example is unique.
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