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Sudoku 8X8 — LMI May Sudoku Test — 12th-14th May
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Richard
Subject: RE: Sudoku 8X8 — LMI May Sudoku Test — 12th-14th May @ 2012-05-08 12:41 AM (#7220 - in reply to #7186) (#7220) Top


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The theme of part B is ...without regularly placed regions... but most of the example puzzles are 'regular' 2x3 blocks. How do I have to see this?
Thanks in advance!

Best regards, Richard
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Subject: RE: Sudoku 8X8 — LMI May Sudoku Test — 12th-14th May @ 2012-05-08 1:09 AM (#7221 - in reply to #7220) (#7221) Top


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Richard - 2012-05-08 12:41 AM

The theme of part B is ...without regularly placed regions... but most of the example puzzles are 'regular' 2x3 blocks. How do I have to see this?
Thanks in advance!

Best regards, Richard


It is just a IB. We were not able to construct 28 original 8x8 puzzles for Instruction booklet. We believe, that for understanding the rules/instructions it is enough to have smaller puzzles in IB. And also, it is not possible to rotate half of the rectangles in 6x6 puzzle as in 8x8 puzzle (see the classics A1-2 and B1-2 in the IB).
Richard
Subject: RE: Sudoku 8X8 — LMI May Sudoku Test — 12th-14th May @ 2012-05-08 1:25 AM (#7222 - in reply to #7221) (#7222) Top


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greenhorn - 2012-05-08 1:09 AM

Richard - 2012-05-08 12:41 AM

The theme of part B is ...without regularly placed regions... but most of the example puzzles are 'regular' 2x3 blocks. How do I have to see this?
Thanks in advance!

Best regards, Richard


It is just a IB. We were not able to construct 28 original 8x8 puzzles for Instruction booklet. We believe, that for understanding the rules/instructions it is enough to have smaller puzzles in IB. And also, it is not possible to rotate half of the rectangles in 6x6 puzzle as in 8x8 puzzle (see the classics A1-2 and B1-2 in the IB).

No problem!
I just wondered if more grids would have irregular shapes than the presented puzzles in B1-2, B4, B5, B6, B11 and B12.
I know how much work it is preparing a test plus IB. Having no less than 28 puzzles (x2) isn't making this easier!
I am looking forward to the test, since 14 puzzles for a bit over an hour seems like that there are a few quickies to be done, even for a midrange-solver like me.
greenhorn
Subject: RE: Sudoku 8X8 — LMI May Sudoku Test — 12th-14th May @ 2012-05-08 2:01 AM (#7223 - in reply to #7222) (#7223) Top


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Richard - 2012-05-08 1:25 AM

greenhorn - 2012-05-08 1:09 AM

Richard - 2012-05-08 12:41 AM

The theme of part B is ...without regularly placed regions... but most of the example puzzles are 'regular' 2x3 blocks. How do I have to see this?
Thanks in advance!

Best regards, Richard


It is just a IB. We were not able to construct 28 original 8x8 puzzles for Instruction booklet. We believe, that for understanding the rules/instructions it is enough to have smaller puzzles in IB. And also, it is not possible to rotate half of the rectangles in 6x6 puzzle as in 8x8 puzzle (see the classics A1-2 and B1-2 in the IB).

No problem!
I just wondered if more grids would have irregular shapes than the presented puzzles in B1-2, B4, B5, B6, B11 and B12.
I know how much work it is preparing a test plus IB. Having no less than 28 puzzles (x2) isn't making this easier!
I am looking forward to the test, since 14 puzzles for a bit over an hour seems like that there are a few quickies to be done, even for a midrange-solver like me.


Richard, you´re absolutely right. Some of the puzzles will be easier (it is not hard to discover which ones), so that is why we even haven´t tought about bigger (harder) puzzles in IB. And of course, we want to keep the best puzzles for the competition.
All the irregular puzzles (as Irregular sudoku, Surplus-deficit or Irregular without regions) are irregular in IB. Only the usual variants, which will have rotated regions, are unrotated in the IB.
greenhorn
Subject: Re: Sudoku 8X8 — LMI May Sudoku Test — 12th-14th May @ 2012-05-10 12:20 AM (#7226 - in reply to #7186) (#7226) Top


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Dear puzzle friends,
in Foursome sudoku (A11-14) there are four sudoku grids and the points may be distributed for each grid independently. However we accept only solution, that is valid for all four puzzle grids together!
This sentence is missing in the IB, but we believe, that it was clear also before.

Thank you for understanding!

Edited by greenhorn 2012-05-10 12:20 AM
joshuazucker
Subject: Re: Sudoku 8X8 — LMI May Sudoku Test — 12th-14th May @ 2012-05-10 12:30 AM (#7227 - in reply to #7186) (#7227) Top




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I think there's a typo in B8: the 8 on the right edge should be 3+5+1 = 9.

Looks like this will be a fun test!
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Subject: Re: Sudoku 8X8 — LMI May Sudoku Test — 12th-14th May @ 2012-05-10 3:55 AM (#7228 - in reply to #7197) (#7228) Top


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sinchai4547 - 2012-05-07 10:19 AM

In X sum sudoku: the clue is on the right puzzle at column 4. The number 8 is wrong. 9 is correct?

An updated version of IB is now available with this typo fixed.
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Subject: Re: Sudoku 8X8 — LMI May Sudoku Test — 12th-14th May @ 2012-05-10 10:48 AM (#7229 - in reply to #7186) (#7229) Top




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Hello guys,I hava a doubt.The Foursome Sudoku instructions say that there will be four grids-2 usual,one with rotated rectangles & one irregular.But there is no irregular grid given in the IB??????wat abt that????
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Subject: Re: Sudoku 8X8 — LMI May Sudoku Test — 12th-14th May @ 2012-05-10 11:46 AM (#7230 - in reply to #7229) (#7230) Top


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csraveen - 2012-05-10 10:48 AM

Hello guys,I hava a doubt.The Foursome Sudoku instructions say that there will be four grids-2 usual,one with rotated rectangles & one irregular.But there is no irregular grid given in the IB??????wat abt that????
As mentioned earlier in this thread, the IB is just for illustration of the rules.
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Subject: Re: Sudoku 8X8 — LMI May Sudoku Test — 12th-14th May @ 2012-05-10 11:48 AM (#7231 - in reply to #7186) (#7231) Top


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Announcements - No Online Solving

LMI flash interface does not support Cube Sudoku. Also, it is very difficult to solve Irregular W/O borders on the flash.
So, it is decided that online solving will not be available in this test.


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Subject: Re: Sudoku 8X8 — LMI May Sudoku Test — 12th-14th May @ 2012-05-11 11:36 PM (#7232 - in reply to #7186) (#7232) Top


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Announcements


1. Password protected pdfs is uploaded. Part A pdf has 6 pages and part B pdf has 7 pages. There are no cover pages. Password for each pdf is different (?).
2. As announced earlier, there is no online solving in this test.
3. Bonus points for part A = 5 points per minutes saved. Bonus points for part B = 7 points per minutes saved.
4. Link for score page : http://logicmastersindia.com/M201205S/score.asp


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Subject: Re: Sudoku 8X8 — LMI May Sudoku Test — 12th-14th May @ 2012-05-12 9:27 PM (#7233 - in reply to #7186) (#7233) Top




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Thanks for the puzzles, very fun!
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Subject: Re: Sudoku 8X8 — LMI May Sudoku Test — 12th-14th May @ 2012-05-13 3:30 AM (#7234 - in reply to #7233) (#7234) Top


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I really need to learn how to use the printer :| Also probably not a good idea to give the test tonight, still need to work on my patience.
Anyway, some really nice puzzles, will need to get back to all the ones I solved wrong. :P
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Subject: Re: Sudoku 8X8 — LMI May Sudoku Test — 12th-14th May @ 2012-05-13 8:44 AM (#7235 - in reply to #7186) (#7235) Top




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Wow, lots of fun puzzles, thanks!

I'm pleased that I turned one in with about 30 seconds left on the clock in part B. I hope I got it right.

One small correction, perhaps: It seemed like several times the input instructions said "row" when they meant "column" based on what was drawn on the paper.
joshuazucker
Subject: Re: Sudoku 8X8 — LMI May Sudoku Test — 12th-14th May @ 2012-05-13 10:10 AM (#7236 - in reply to #7186) (#7236) Top




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Hm, after part A the score page seemed to load just fine but now that I'm done with part B it's all showing up blank?
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Subject: Re: Sudoku 8X8 — LMI May Sudoku Test — 12th-14th May @ 2012-05-13 12:17 PM (#7237 - in reply to #7186) (#7237) Top




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I can't see the results at all
joshuazucker
Subject: Re: Sudoku 8X8 — LMI May Sudoku Test — 12th-14th May @ 2012-05-13 12:24 PM (#7238 - in reply to #7186) (#7238) Top




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Now it seems like about half the time when I reload, it comes up blank, and the other half it gives me all the information as usual. (Of course, I only get to test once per hour or so.)
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Subject: Re: Sudoku 8X8 — LMI May Sudoku Test — 12th-14th May @ 2012-05-13 12:29 PM (#7239 - in reply to #7238) (#7239) Top


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tamz29 - 2012-05-13 12:17 PM

I can't see the results at all
joshuazucker - 2012-05-13 12:24 PM

Now it seems like about half the time when I reload, it comes up blank, and the other half it gives me all the information as usual. (Of course, I only get to test once per hour or so.)
Checking what could be the problem.
As admin, I can always see the results. So didn't realize that there is a problem.
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Subject: Re: Sudoku 8X8 — LMI May Sudoku Test — 12th-14th May @ 2012-05-13 1:28 PM (#7240 - in reply to #7186) (#7240) Top




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I also didn't see the results page after I completed the test - table was blank. So I've no idea how many puzzles I solved correctly, and how many not. Well, I can see the results in 22-nd of May when I come back from China. Until then the excitement stays...
Puzzles were nice, except I didn't like pencilmarks so much. Probably, because I spent so much time on it:)
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Subject: Re: Sudoku 8X8 — LMI May Sudoku Test — 12th-14th May @ 2012-05-13 1:29 PM (#7241 - in reply to #7186) (#7241) Top


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Score page is now fixed to show both parts. Please check again.
@TiiT, you have 1 incorrect in Part 2
tamz29
Subject: Re: Sudoku 8X8 — LMI May Sudoku Test — 12th-14th May @ 2012-05-13 1:38 PM (#7242 - in reply to #7186) (#7242) Top




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I can see the scores now! Thank you.
Great test - I think the difficulty is very suitable for a quick test.
Richard
Subject: Re: Sudoku 8X8 — LMI May Sudoku Test — 12th-14th May @ 2012-05-13 3:09 PM (#7243 - in reply to #7242) (#7243) Top


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I can only see the list of participants... :(

EDIT: problem solved :)

Edited by Richard 2012-05-13 6:31 PM
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Subject: Re: Sudoku 8X8 — LMI May Sudoku Test — 12th-14th May @ 2012-05-14 6:43 PM (#7246 - in reply to #7186) (#7246) Top




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Is there something wrong with the order of results when people have the same total score? E.g: hunterkok is placed 56th, I am 57th, same total score, but I used less time (for both parts), so should the order not be reversed?

Same problem for Psyho vs caudmont (16th/17th), wielki_m vs takeya (41st/42nd) and agabum vs ThomasKostolany (49th/50th). I didn't look any further down the list.
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Subject: Re: Sudoku 8X8 — LMI May Sudoku Test — 12th-14th May @ 2012-05-14 8:26 PM (#7247 - in reply to #7246) (#7247) Top


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Same scores are now sorted by lowest submission time (Part A + part B).
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Subject: Re: Sudoku 8X8 — LMI May Sudoku Test — 12th-14th May @ 2012-05-15 9:31 AM (#7248 - in reply to #7186) (#7248) Top


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Congratulations to Ulrich, Jan, Kota for topping in Sudoku 8X8. This is Ulrich's best rank (among the few Sudoku tests he has played) at LMI.

Of 235 players from 33 countries, 196 players got non-zero scores. Thank you everyone for participating. I hope everyone enjoyed the 8X8 Sudokus Matus and Zuzana presented.

Rohan, Tejal and Jaipal are the top 3 Indian performers.
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