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Killer Shootout — LMI August Sudoku Test #2 — 25th-28th August
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Subject: Killer Shootout — LMI August Sudoku Test #2 — 25th-28th August @ 2012-08-20 10:59 AM (#8245) (#8245) Top


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Subject: Re: Killer Shootout — LMI August Sudoku Test #2 — 25th-28th August @ 2012-08-20 11:00 AM (#8246 - in reply to #8245) (#8246) Top


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Logic Masters India announces August Sudoku Test #2 — Killer Shootout

Author : Stefan Heine

Dates : 25th - 28th August

IB and Submission Link : here

Length of the test : 180 minutes / Bonus : 0.03 points per second saved, if all sudokus are correct

Test-Solvers : Ulrich Voigt & Sebastian Matschke


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Subject: Re: Killer Shootout — LMI August Sudoku Test #2 — 25th-28th August @ 2012-08-20 11:01 AM (#8247 - in reply to #8245) (#8247) Top


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Please note, there will not be any Sudoku test in September.
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Subject: Re: Killer Shootout — LMI August Sudoku Test #2 — 25th-28th August @ 2012-08-20 1:25 PM (#8251 - in reply to #8247) (#8251) Top


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Administrator - 2012-08-20 11:01 AM

Please note, there will not be any Sudoku test in September.


Meanwhile, looks like a puzzle/sudoku overload in august!

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Subject: Re: Killer Shootout — LMI August Sudoku Test #2 — 25th-28th August @ 2012-08-20 1:29 PM (#8253 - in reply to #8245) (#8253) Top




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Subject: Re: Killer Shootout — LMI August Sudoku Test #2 — 25th-28th August @ 2012-08-20 3:51 PM (#8254 - in reply to #8245) (#8254) Top


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will there be regular beginner sudoku contest in sep?
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Subject: Re: Killer Shootout — LMI August Sudoku Test #2 — 25th-28th August @ 2012-08-20 3:56 PM (#8255 - in reply to #8254) (#8255) Top


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kishy72 - 2012-08-20 3:51 PM

will there be regular beginner sudoku contest in sep?
We are planning one, and an announcement will be made one week before that in the Beginners' Contest topic. If you have any further queries, please ask them there.
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Subject: Re: Killer Shootout — LMI August Sudoku Test #2 — 25th-28th August @ 2012-08-22 7:16 PM (#8267 - in reply to #8245) (#8267) Top



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When will be the IB published?
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Subject: Re: Killer Shootout — LMI August Sudoku Test #2 — 25th-28th August @ 2012-08-22 10:03 PM (#8268 - in reply to #8245) (#8268) Top


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Logic Masters India announces August Sudoku Test #2 — Killer Shootout

Author : Stefan Heine

Dates : 25th - 28th August

IB and Submission Link : here

Length of the test : 180 minutes / Bonus : 0.03 points per second saved, if all sudokus are correct

Test-Solvers : Ulrich Voigt & Sebastian Matschke


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Subject: Re: Killer Shootout — LMI August Sudoku Test #2 — 25th-28th August @ 2012-08-22 10:17 PM (#8269 - in reply to #8245) (#8269) Top


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Regarding the Navigation variant -
For 9 cells, Compass will have to be on the cell itself right? So we shall have to write the digit over it for that cell.

Also, for the Bird variant, which sum belongs to which group will have to be determined during the solve right? And I assume numbers can repeat in the bird groups, since one of the sums for 3 cells is 25 and another is 5.
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Subject: Re: Killer Shootout — LMI August Sudoku Test #2 — 25th-28th August @ 2012-08-22 10:50 PM (#8270 - in reply to #8245) (#8270) Top




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Is there online solving?
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Subject: RE: Killer Shootout — LMI August Sudoku Test #2 — 25th-28th August @ 2012-08-22 11:11 PM (#8271 - in reply to #8245) (#8271) Top





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prasanna16391 - 2012-08-22 6:17 PM

Also, for the Bird variant, which sum belongs to which group will have to be determined during the solve right? And I assume numbers can repeat in the bird groups, since one of the sums for 3 cells is 25 and another is 5.

As I understand the IB, I would say yes, and yes.

I am planning to be very careful about two things : repetition/non repetition in the diagonals, since puzzles are not grouped according to this (however almost); and on a personal plan, I will have to slow myself on the "Little Odd Even Diagonal Killer" since the association of parity and colors you made is quite the opposite of what naturally comes to my mind - I see even digits as round and green or blue, and odd ones square-shaped... This promises to be fun!

I just noted the 180' timing; how many puzzles of each type are we to expect ?
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Subject: Re: Killer Shootout — LMI August Sudoku Test #2 — 25th-28th August @ 2012-08-22 11:23 PM (#8272 - in reply to #8270) (#8272) Top


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ssandy - 2012-08-22 10:50 PM

Is there online solving?


I'm not certain, but I think its unlikely. Classics vs Innovatives didn't have online solving, and this test has some innovative variants with actual birds and fishes on it so I doubt it will.
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Subject: Re: Killer Shootout — LMI August Sudoku Test #2 — 25th-28th August @ 2012-08-22 11:24 PM (#8273 - in reply to #8245) (#8273) Top




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3 hours?!
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Subject: Re: Killer Shootout — LMI August Sudoku Test #2 — 25th-28th August @ 2012-08-22 11:31 PM (#8274 - in reply to #8245) (#8274) Top



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Really a new innovative test with so much fun. Waiting for it!!

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Subject: Re: Killer Shootout — LMI August Sudoku Test #2 — 25th-28th August @ 2012-08-22 11:44 PM (#8275 - in reply to #8274) (#8275) Top


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Hmmm,
Seven example puzzles, adding up to 200 points. It's not clear how the points distribution over the contest puzzles will be. Unless the contest will only contain 7 puzzles... But that is very unlikely, looking to the 3 hours time for the test. Can organizers say anything about this? Or do we have to make choices on what puzzles to try and what not only after seeing the real PB?
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Subject: Re: Killer Shootout — LMI August Sudoku Test #2 — 25th-28th August @ 2012-08-22 11:58 PM (#8276 - in reply to #8275) (#8276) Top


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Richard - 2012-08-22 11:44 PM

Hmmm,
Seven example puzzles, adding up to 200 points. It's not clear how the points distribution over the contest puzzles will be. Unless the contest will only contain 7 puzzles... But that is very unlikely, looking to the 3 hours time for the test. Can organizers say anything about this? Or do we have to make choices on what puzzles to try and what not only after seeing the real PB?


Confirmation will come when Deb/Author/Test-Solver is online, but yes it is mostly 7 difficult puzzles.
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Subject: Re: Killer Shootout — LMI August Sudoku Test #2 — 25th-28th August @ 2012-08-23 12:43 AM (#8277 - in reply to #8276) (#8277) Top


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prasanna16391 - 2012-08-22 11:58 PM

Confirmation will come when Deb/Author/Test-Solver is online, but yes it is mostly 7 difficult puzzles.


I guess you are right; 3 hours is 10.800 seconds and for 200 points it should mean 0,019 points per second, which relates to 0,03 points bonus per second. But: let's wait for confirmation...
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Subject: Re: Killer Shootout — LMI August Sudoku Test #2 — 25th-28th August @ 2012-08-23 1:45 AM (#8278 - in reply to #8245) (#8278) Top


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Hi there,

I am proud and happy to present to you my first LMI Sudoku Test!

I will try to answer all of your questions step by step.

First notification:

Because the UK Puzzle Championship and the US Puzzle Championship is also scheduled to happen this weekend the "Killer Sudoku Shoot Out" is open for 96 hours, instead for 72 hours (including a Tuesday).


yours
Stefan Heine
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Subject: Re: Killer Shootout — LMI August Sudoku Test #2 — 25th-28th August @ 2012-08-23 1:54 AM (#8279 - in reply to #8269) (#8279) Top


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prasanna16391 - 2012-08-22 6:17 PM

Regarding the Navigation variant -
For 9 cells, Compass will have to be on the cell itself right? So we shall have to write the digit over it for that cell.

Also, for the Bird variant, which sum belongs to which group will have to be determined during the solve right? And I assume numbers can repeat in the bird groups, since one of the sums for 3 cells is 25 and another is 5.


Three times yes - all assumptions are correct!

Stefan
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Subject: RE: Killer Shootout — LMI August Sudoku Test #2 — 25th-28th August @ 2012-08-23 2:00 AM (#8280 - in reply to #8271) (#8280) Top


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Ours brun - 2012-08-22 7:11 PM

...how many puzzles of each type are we to expect ?

Only one puzzle of each type - it is seven sudokus for the whole test!

Stefan
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Subject: Re: Killer Shootout — LMI August Sudoku Test #2 — 25th-28th August @ 2012-08-23 2:08 AM (#8281 - in reply to #8275) (#8281) Top


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Richard - 2012-08-22 7:44 PM

Hmmm,
Seven example puzzles, adding up to 200 points. It's not clear how the points distribution over the contest puzzles will be. ...



It should be clear because you see the points for every puzzle between the puzzle and the headline in light grey - even in the IB. Maybe this grey is too light.

14 - Little Regular Killer
22 - Irregular Navigation Killer
23 - Little Irregular Killer
56 - Little Diagonal Bild Killer
41 - Little Odd Even Diagonal Killer
20 - Non Consecutive Little Odd Fish Killer
24 - Dots Killer
----------------------------
200 Killer Points


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Subject: Re: Killer Shootout — LMI August Sudoku Test #2 — 25th-28th August @ 2012-08-23 2:41 AM (#8282 - in reply to #8273) (#8282) Top


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tamz29 - 2012-08-22 7:24 PM

3 hours?!


Yes, it is three hours.

Primarily I planned to enable four hours of time because I wanted to give the chance to most of you to finish all puzzles. These sudokus are really not easy to solve and my experience from creating puzzles for dozens of contests is that the results spread the more the more difficult the puzzles are in average.

I believe only the very very best in the world (if participating) will be able to overleap 300 points by finishing within two hours.


Stefan
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Subject: Re: Killer Shootout — LMI August Sudoku Test #2 — 25th-28th August @ 2012-08-23 3:35 AM (#8283 - in reply to #8282) (#8283) Top



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It looks like this tournament will contain harder sudokus than my test diagonal vision .

Having been stuck during more than 30 minutes in an official competition on a little killer (having found only 7 digits) created by Stefan Heine should perhaps scare me, but I look forward to this uncommon test.

Fred
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Subject: Re: Killer Shootout — LMI August Sudoku Test #2 — 25th-28th August @ 2012-08-23 10:25 AM (#8284 - in reply to #8245) (#8284) Top


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in Irregular Navigation Killer do the cells covered by a compass have different numbers or can they repeat?
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