DTGT — LMI September Puzzle Test — 7th-9th September 2013 | |
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PR 2020 (Shading and Loops) Author Posts: 668 Location: India | so whats full form of DTGT ;) | ||
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Location: India | swaroop2011 - 2013-08-23 9:07 AM Well, Two letters should be obvious from the logo. Remaining two can be guessed.so whats full form of DTGT ;) | ||
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PR 2020 (Shading and Loops) Author Posts: 668 Location: India | ohk i think i got it :) | ||
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Posts: 225 Location: Thailand | Finally a puzzle test. | ||
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Location: India | Logic Masters India announces September Puzzle Test — DTGT Dates : 7th — 9th September Instruction Booklet & Submission : here Author : Richard Stolk | ||
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Posts: 69 Location: Japan | In Prime Domino, can a domino consist of two grey cells? If so, example puzzle has 2 solutions at bottom right. | ||
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WCPN Author Posts: 191 Location: The Netherlands | deu - 2013-08-29 7:27 AM In Prime Domino, can a domino consist of two grey cells? If so, example puzzle has 2 solutions at bottom right. Yes, it is possible that two grey cells belong to the same domino. New IB uploaded, two digits swapped in the bottom right. Sorry for inconvenience. | ||
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Posts: 225 Location: Thailand | In the last puzzle, can black cell touch the border diagonally? | ||
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WCPN Author Posts: 191 Location: The Netherlands | tamz29 - 2013-08-29 3:06 PM In the last puzzle, can black cell touch the border diagonally? Yes, that is allowed. | ||
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WCPN Author Posts: 191 Location: The Netherlands | As I have written in the IB, here is a list of links to more practise material in the puzzle portal of Logic Masters Germany. Here we go: Killer Skyscrapers: easy; easy Regional Yajilin: medium; easy Capsules: very easy; medium Masyu Battleships: very easy; easy Easy as Chaos ABC: easy City construction: hard; medium; hard Easy as no ABC – No Touch: medium Spiral City Construction: medium; medium Filled Loop: medium; very hard; hard; medium Pentomino in the Box: hard; hard Japanese Sums Pentominos: very easy; very easy Sudokakuro: easy X-Sums Sudoku: easy Domino Loop: medium; medium Prime domino: easy; easy Blackout Domino: hard; medium In June all my puzzles in the portal were XL; same rules but larger grids. All these puzzles are (much) harder than in the real test. Still, they can be interesting from a practise point of view: Regional Yajilin Capsules Masyu Battleships Blackout Domino If you have any questions about these extra practise puzzles, don’t hesitate to ask. Either here or in the portal. In the coming days I will publish a few more practise puzzles. I will keep you all informed about it. Have fun and good luck! | ||
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WCPN Author Posts: 191 Location: The Netherlands | Richard - 2013-08-30 1:43 AM In the coming days I will publish a few more practise puzzles. I will keep you all informed about it. Meanwhile two extra practise puzzles are published in the portal: X-Sums Sudoku Capsules | ||
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WCPN Author Posts: 191 Location: The Netherlands | I received a question about Japanese sums Pentominos: "Is the sum in both different 'legs' of the U-pentomino presented as one sum or as two different sums?" The answer is that both different 'legs' have their own sum (of one digit). By choosing the phrase '... blocks of cells ...' I have tried to take away doubts on this issue. Later I will try to attach a small image to this message that should make it even more clear. Administrator edited to add the image | ||
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Posts: 181 Location: New Zealand | Hi Richard, For puzzle 16 Sudokakuro, the answer key should be 235146, 261543 (and a matching solution grid). Looks like a good collection of puzzles! :) Also a question about Filled Loop: In the example the loop is always one cell wide where the pentominoes touch. Is it possible for three pentominoes to meet at a point that is not on the loop-edge? e.g. meeting like this: I I I I ILLLL YL Y YY Y Edited by kiwijam 2013-09-03 9:55 AM | ||
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WCPN Author Posts: 191 Location: The Netherlands | Oops, you are absolutely right. I feel pretty silly... New IB will be uploaded. | ||
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WCPN Author Posts: 191 Location: The Netherlands | kiwijam - 2013-09-03 9:42 AM Also a question about Filled Loop: In the example the loop is always one cell wide where the pentominoes touch. Is it possible for three pentominoes to meet at a point that is not on the loop-edge? e.g. meeting like this: I I I I ILLLL YL Y YY Y No, this is not possible. Pentominos don't touch each other diagonally. | ||
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Posts: 69 Location: Germany | Hi Richard, I'm definitly looking forward to this. Just printed the practice material, there are some puzzles, I wanted to do for a long time. Unfortunately my solving percentage in the puzzle portal dropped a lot during the last years, there are just too many puzzles out there to keep up everywhere. However, I'm a little bit confused about your answer to kiwijam. His example seems valid according to the rules in the instruction booklet. | ||
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WCPN Author Posts: 191 Location: The Netherlands | Realshaggy - 2013-09-03 4:16 PM However, I'm a little bit confused about your answer to kiwijam. His example seems valid according to the rules in the instruction booklet. Now something funny is happening. Of all the puzzles of this type that I published in the puzzle portal so far, none had a question like this in the comments. Also the test solvers didn't mention something about it. But in fact you (and kiwijam) are right. Following the instructions, some 'unwanted' positioning of pentos is possible. This type is getting incredible hard if pentos are allowed to 'fit together like jigsaw pieces'. That was not my intention when I developed the first puzzle of this type a few years ago. I think it is wise to rephrase the instructions or add a sentence. Something like: 'each pentomino can touch one or more other pentominos, but a pentomino segment can touch only one other pentomino'. Is that a phrase that makes it all more clear or does anyone have a better alternative? | ||
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Posts: 69 Location: Germany | I remember a discussion whether or not three pentominos can met at a point, but I can't find the particular puzzle right now. It might also be one of your "Pentominoschleifen" or one of Luigis puzzles. I also solved two of these, but I can't remember that I had problems with the description. However, as far as I remember, I found them much harder than other solvers difficulty rating intended. Maybe the ones I solved are unique even without it, and it makes them much easier to use this additional rule. I think "There is no point where three or more pentominos met." is a short addition that makes everything clear. This also excludes the case of diagonally touching pentominos, because only two would violate the loop rule, and more is not allowed. Edited by Realshaggy 2013-09-03 5:09 PM | ||
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WCPN Author Posts: 191 Location: The Netherlands | Realshaggy - 2013-09-03 5:08 PM There is no point where three or more pentominos meet. Added this to the instructions. New IB is uploaded. | ||
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WCPN Author Posts: 191 Location: The Netherlands | Two more links to extra practise puzzles: As easy as ABC - No Touch Sudokakuro Before the test starts I will publish the last two practise puzzles: As easy as Chaos ABC (Thursday) Pentomino in the Box (Friday) Enjoy! | ||
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Triplets & Triangles Author Posts: 63 Location: United Kingdom | Another question about Prime Domino. If there are no shaded squares in a domino, is the total necessarily non-prime? | ||
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WCPN Author Posts: 191 Location: The Netherlands | David McNeill - 2013-09-05 7:46 PM Another question about Prime Domino. If there are no shaded squares in a domino, is the total necessarily non-prime? According to the instructions it is possible that two white cells in one domino add to a prime number. | ||
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WCPN Author Posts: 191 Location: The Netherlands | Richard - 2013-09-04 3:39 PM Before the test starts I will publish the last two practise puzzles: As easy as Chaos ABC (Thursday) Pentomino in the Box (Friday) Today the Easy as Chaos ABC was published. | ||
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Posts: 30 Location: France | Wow, can't find the break in any killer skyscrapers, not even in the one from the booklet ... Can someone give me a nudge on any of the three please ? | ||
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