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Best of LMI Sudoku tests — December Sudoku Test — 14th-16th December
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rakesh_rai
Subject: Re: Best of LMI Sudoku tests — December Sudoku Test — 14th-16th December @ 2013-12-13 9:04 PM (#13815 - in reply to #13814) (#13815) Top



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swaroop2011 - 2013-12-13 8:47 PM

so it means that only the two cells where clue is given in center are of importance. And then the clue is either greater or smaller than other digit that will be part of those two cells ?


The number in the clue is greater than the other cell for ALL given clues

OR

The number in the clue is smaller than the other cell for ALL given clues

devarajand
Subject: Re: Best of LMI Sudoku tests — December Sudoku Test — 14th-16th December @ 2013-12-13 9:43 PM (#13816 - in reply to #13736) (#13816) Top




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In practice material Scattered Sudoku. After entering 5 at R2C5, 2 at R8C9 , non of the colored cells can contain 2?
swaroop2011
Subject: Re: Best of LMI Sudoku tests — December Sudoku Test — 14th-16th December @ 2013-12-13 10:02 PM (#13817 - in reply to #13815) (#13817) Top



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Thanks got it Deb and Rakesh :)
swaroop2011
Subject: Re: Best of LMI Sudoku tests — December Sudoku Test — 14th-16th December @ 2013-12-13 10:05 PM (#13818 - in reply to #13816) (#13818) Top



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devarajand - 2013-12-13 9:43 PM

In practice material Scattered Sudoku. After entering 5 at R2C5, 2 at R8C9 , non of the colored cells can contain 2?

hie
i think entering 5 at r2c5 itself is a wrong step , in that row 5 can be at r2c8 :)
achan1058
Subject: Re: Best of LMI Sudoku tests — December Sudoku Test — 14th-16th December @ 2013-12-14 8:02 AM (#13821 - in reply to #13702) (#13821) Top




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 How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? Fairly balanced
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? Just right
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Many puzzles were worth too much or too little
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


TiiT
Subject: Re: Best of LMI Sudoku tests — December Sudoku Test — 14th-16th December @ 2013-12-14 6:59 PM (#13826 - in reply to #13702) (#13826) Top




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 How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? Perfectly balanced
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? A bit too few puzzles
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


Yuhei Kusui
Subject: Re: Best of LMI Sudoku tests — December Sudoku Test — 14th-16th December @ 2013-12-14 7:26 PM (#13827 - in reply to #13702) (#13827) Top




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 How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? Perfectly balanced
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? Just right
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Many puzzles were worth too much or too little
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


Bram28
Subject: Re: Best of LMI Sudoku tests — December Sudoku Test — 14th-16th December @ 2013-12-14 8:37 PM (#13828 - in reply to #13806) (#13828) Top




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Bram28 - 2013-12-13 9:55 AM

Does the Sudoku XV in the IB have 2 solutions? I have a different solution and I don't see any mistakes in it.


In your different solution, have you taken into account that there must be a specified number of corresponding digits per row in both grids on the same page?


Ah! No, I had not. I am notoriously bad at reading the full instructions ... even as I wondered what those numbers in the middle were doing there ...

Edited by Bram28 2013-12-14 8:39 PM
Bram28
Subject: Re: Best of LMI Sudoku tests — December Sudoku Test — 14th-16th December @ 2013-12-14 10:45 PM (#13829 - in reply to #13702) (#13829) Top




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 How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? Perfectly balanced
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? A bit too many puzzles
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


Thanks for the nice test Richard!
An LMI player
Subject: Re: Best of LMI Sudoku tests — December Sudoku Test — 14th-16th December @ 2013-12-15 6:42 PM (#13833 - in reply to #13702) (#13833) Top


 How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? Fairly balanced
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? Just right
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Many puzzles were worth too much or too little
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


wgryciuk
Subject: Re: Best of LMI Sudoku tests — December Sudoku Test — 14th-16th December @ 2013-12-15 6:50 PM (#13834 - in reply to #13702) (#13834) Top




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 How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? Fairly balanced
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? Way too many puzzles (too little time)
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


An LMI player
Subject: Re: Best of LMI Sudoku tests — December Sudoku Test — 14th-16th December @ 2013-12-15 9:54 PM (#13836 - in reply to #13702) (#13836) Top


 How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? Fairly balanced
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Too many hard puzzles
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Fairly Nice
 How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? Way too many puzzles (too little time)
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? I have a different complaint


This time unfriendly contest for players without printers.

Edited by An LMI player 2013-12-15 10:04 PM
Gotroch
Subject: Re: Best of LMI Sudoku tests — December Sudoku Test — 14th-16th December @ 2013-12-15 10:50 PM (#13837 - in reply to #13702) (#13837) Top




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 How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? Perfectly balanced
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? Just right
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Many puzzles were worth too much or too little
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


RALehrer
Subject: Re: Best of LMI Sudoku tests — December Sudoku Test — 14th-16th December @ 2013-12-16 2:21 AM (#13839 - in reply to #13702) (#13839) Top




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 How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? Perfectly balanced
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Too many medium difficult puzzles
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? Way too many puzzles (too little time)
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Too few pages / too small grids


I attempted the chaos renban only after the test...and found it to be easier than some puzzles worth 30-40 points. I know it can vary with individual strengths, but that's a hell of a lot of variation!
achan1058
Subject: Re: Best of LMI Sudoku tests — December Sudoku Test — 14th-16th December @ 2013-12-16 2:34 AM (#13840 - in reply to #13839) (#13840) Top




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RALehrer - 2013-12-15 3:21 PM

I attempted the chaos renban only after the test...and found it to be easier than some puzzles worth 30-40 points. I know it can vary with individual strengths, but that's a hell of a lot of variation!
I agree. The chaos renban took me 10 minutes, while the other 100 pointer, x is alive took me 20. There's a few others that I think are incorrectly valued too, but the chaos renban is probably the biggest sore thumb I saw.
Khazimir
Subject: Re: Best of LMI Sudoku tests — December Sudoku Test — 14th-16th December @ 2013-12-16 2:41 AM (#13841 - in reply to #13702) (#13841) Top




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 How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? Fairly balanced
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Fairly Nice
 How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? Just right
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


Richard
Subject: Re: Best of LMI Sudoku tests — December Sudoku Test — 14th-16th December @ 2013-12-16 2:43 AM (#13842 - in reply to #13840) (#13842) Top


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achan1058 - 2013-12-16 2:34 AM

RALehrer - 2013-12-15 3:21 PM

I attempted the chaos renban only after the test...and found it to be easier than some puzzles worth 30-40 points. I know it can vary with individual strengths, but that's a hell of a lot of variation!
I agree. The chaos renban took me 10 minutes, while the other 100 pointer, x is alive took me 20. There's a few others that I think are incorrectly valued too, but the chaos renban is probably the biggest sore thumb I saw.


Points distribution is mostly a very hard part of writing a test. I am lucky to have a small team of testers, who are all well experienced sudoku solvers. There is quite some variation between their timings, so I understand the responses here. Especially the Chaos Renban puzzle has a shortcut that makes it easier solvable; the 5's play a crucial role in all five renban groups. Noticing that makes the solving process a lot faster.

It is always worth looking to high pointers in a test, even if you are not among top solvers. It might be better to look at puzzles that you are good at, no matter how much points they are worth.
An LMI player
Subject: Re: Best of LMI Sudoku tests — December Sudoku Test — 14th-16th December @ 2013-12-16 3:06 AM (#13843 - in reply to #13702) (#13843) Top


 How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? Perfectly balanced
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Fairly Nice
 How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? Just right
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


An LMI player
Subject: Re: Best of LMI Sudoku tests — December Sudoku Test — 14th-16th December @ 2013-12-16 10:08 AM (#13847 - in reply to #13702) (#13847) Top


 How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? Perfectly balanced
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? Just right
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


Para
Subject: Re: Best of LMI Sudoku tests — December Sudoku Test — 14th-16th December @ 2013-12-16 10:08 AM (#13848 - in reply to #13836) (#13848) Top




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An LMI player - 2013-12-15 9:54 PM

This time unfriendly contest for players without printers.


These tests are always made to be printed. Puzzling is in general a paper and pencil activity (although I admit some of that is changing). So being without a printer will always make it a bit harder to solve. I don't exactly see what makes it unfriendly though. It might take a little bit more time writing in paint, but I don't see how that can be changed fairly. I for example aren't very skillful in online applets, so that would not give me any advantage if those were made. But I generally feel that some people get a distinct advantage of solving in an online applet as they employ a solving style that would be very impractical on paper.

I personally don't have a properly functioning printer right now. So I did it without a printer in paint. I thought it went pretty well. I would have probably done better with one as it's much easier to write and keep notes and write quickly on paper than in paint. But the grids were easily copy-pasted into paint two at a time because of the layout, so it saved some time in having to copy paste all grids separately. I could solve 2 puzzles and then put in the answer keys 2 at a time, saving me some time in having to switch windows a lot. I did last week's test in paint as well and I thought this one was much friendlier in having to solve in paint.

Edited by Para 2013-12-16 10:09 AM
An LMI player
Subject: Re: Best of LMI Sudoku tests — December Sudoku Test — 14th-16th December @ 2013-12-16 2:46 PM (#13849 - in reply to #13702) (#13849) Top


 How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? Fairly balanced
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Too many hard puzzles
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? A bit too many puzzles
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? I have a different complaint


The only complaint is that there wasn't online solving. It is unconvience for people without printer.
Realshaggy
Subject: Re: Best of LMI Sudoku tests — December Sudoku Test — 14th-16th December @ 2013-12-16 4:22 PM (#13850 - in reply to #13702) (#13850) Top




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 How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? A bit skewed
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? Just right
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Many puzzles were worth too much or too little
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


A bit too much math types/sum restrictions.

Edited by Realshaggy 2013-12-16 4:23 PM
margareta456
Subject: Re: Best of LMI Sudoku tests — December Sudoku Test — 14th-16th December @ 2013-12-16 5:12 PM (#13851 - in reply to #13702) (#13851) Top




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 How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? Perfectly balanced
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Too many hard puzzles
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? Way too many puzzles (too little time)
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


HuDu
Subject: Re: Best of LMI Sudoku tests — December Sudoku Test — 14th-16th December @ 2013-12-16 8:50 PM (#13854 - in reply to #13702) (#13854) Top




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 How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? Fairly balanced
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? Just right
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


An LMI player
Subject: Re: Best of LMI Sudoku tests — December Sudoku Test — 14th-16th December @ 2013-12-16 9:52 PM (#13856 - in reply to #13702) (#13856) Top


 How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? Perfectly balanced
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Fairly Nice
 How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? Way too many puzzles (too little time)
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


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