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LMI September Puzzle Test - EverGreens II
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debmohanty
Subject: EverGreens II - Tie breaker rules @ 2010-09-03 7:22 PM (#1456 - in reply to #1403) (#1456) Top



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Following rules will be applied in order to break ties, in case there are any.
  • Most points without any bonus
  • Earliest Timestamp for last correct submission


  • [Subject to change in other LMI tests]
    Administrator
    Subject: Re: LMI September Puzzle Test - EverGreens II @ 2010-09-04 8:23 AM (#1457 - in reply to #1403) (#1457) Top


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    The test has started.
    Best of luck to all participants.
    Semax
    Subject: Re: LMI September Puzzle Test - EverGreens II @ 2010-09-04 3:22 PM (#1458 - in reply to #1403) (#1458) Top




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    In darts, is it possible to hit a number more than once?
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    Subject: Re: LMI September Puzzle Test - EverGreens II @ 2010-09-04 3:58 PM (#1459 - in reply to #1458) (#1459) Top



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    In Darts the same number cannot be hit more then once.
    Semax
    Subject: Re: LMI September Puzzle Test - EverGreens II @ 2010-09-04 5:57 PM (#1460 - in reply to #1403) (#1460) Top




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    Thank you.
    Gotroch
    Subject: RE: LMI September Puzzle Test - EverGreens II @ 2010-09-04 7:40 PM (#1462 - in reply to #1403) (#1462) Top




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    Question about time bonus.
    What if someone submit all puzzles ~10 mins before time limit with one error and later he realizes he made that error.
    So he will submit answers again (this time correct) 1min before time limit.
    With current partial bonus system it means that solver could lose points for that action.
    What points that solver will be awarded?
    Gotroch
    Subject: RE: LMI September Puzzle Test - EverGreens II @ 2010-09-04 7:43 PM (#1463 - in reply to #1403) (#1463) Top




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    Also If some competitor sends blank answers, he could reach better score then competitor who solves more puzzles but doesn't submit all answers.

    Edited by Gotroch 2010-09-04 7:44 PM
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    Subject: RE: LMI September Puzzle Test - EverGreens II @ 2010-09-04 7:52 PM (#1464 - in reply to #1462) (#1464) Top


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    Gotroch - 2010-09-04 7:40 PM

    Question about time bonus.
    What if someone submit all puzzles ~10 mins before time limit with one error and later he realizes he made that error.
    So he will submit answers again (this time correct) 1min before time limit.
    With current partial bonus system it means that solver could lose points for that action.
    What points that solver will be awarded?

    We'll just consider the final submission, and not intermediate submissions.
    It is not necessary that the player will lose points because of that action. There are several parameters which will limit the partial bonus.
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    Subject: RE: LMI September Puzzle Test - EverGreens II @ 2010-09-04 7:55 PM (#1465 - in reply to #1463) (#1465) Top


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    Gotroch - 2010-09-04 7:43 PM

    Also If some competitor sends blank answers, he could reach better score then competitor who solves more puzzles but doesn't submit all answers.

    This is not possible.
    See table in http://logicmastersindia.com/forum/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=120&s...
    It is not possible to get bonus if you have scored 460 or less.
    Gotroch
    Subject: RE: LMI September Puzzle Test - EverGreens II @ 2010-09-04 8:11 PM (#1467 - in reply to #1465) (#1467) Top




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    Administrator - 2010-09-04 7:55 PM

    Gotroch - 2010-09-04 7:43 PM

    Also If some competitor sends blank answers, he could reach better score then competitor who solves more puzzles but doesn't submit all answers.

    This is not possible.
    See table in http://logicmastersindia.com/forum/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=120&s...
    It is not possible to get bonus if you have scored 460 or less.


    I didn't mean all answers blank, just few of them (1-3)
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    Subject: Re: LMI September Puzzle Test - EverGreens II @ 2010-09-04 8:15 PM (#1468 - in reply to #1403) (#1468) Top


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    still - the answer does not change.
    Partial bonus will be awarded only if someone has got 465 or more.
    Gotroch
    Subject: Re: LMI September Puzzle Test - EverGreens II @ 2010-09-04 8:25 PM (#1469 - in reply to #1468) (#1469) Top




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    Administrator - 2010-09-04 8:15 PM

    still - the answer does not change.
    Partial bonus will be awarded only if someone has got 465 or more.


    OK, but then In my opinion partial bonus should be also awarded to competitor who scored 465 and more points but didn't submit all answers.
    neerajmehrotra
    Subject: Re: LMI September Puzzle Test - EverGreens II @ 2010-09-04 8:36 PM (#1470 - in reply to #1469) (#1470) Top




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    Gotroch - 2010-09-04 8:25 PM

    Administrator - 2010-09-04 8:15 PM

    still - the answer does not change.
    Partial bonus will be awarded only if someone has got 465 or more.


    OK, but then In my opinion partial bonus should be also awarded to competitor who scored 465 and more points but didn't submit all answers.


    I think anyone who scores more than 465 points gets the bonus irrespective of whether he submits all the puzzles or few wrong puzzles..........Am I correct????
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    Subject: Re: LMI September Puzzle Test - EverGreens II @ 2010-09-04 8:40 PM (#1471 - in reply to #1403) (#1471) Top


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    Neeraj, you are correct.
    Please check the factor table again.
    If a players submits everything in 70 minutes, and gets a score of 465 he gets a bonus point 3.
    If a players submits everything in 70 minutes, and gets a score of 500 he gets a bonus point 28.
    If a players submits everything in 70 minutes, and gets a score of 575 he gets a bonus point 80.

    It does not matter if some puzzles are wrong or not submitted. They are treated same way.
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    Subject: Re: LMI September Puzzle Test - EverGreens II @ 2010-09-04 8:44 PM (#1472 - in reply to #1403) (#1472) Top


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    so, it is obvious that the player getting 465 in 70 minutes must try for few more puzzles in the remaining 10 minutes rather than getting satisfied with 3 bonus points.
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    Subject: Re: LMI September Puzzle Test - EverGreens II @ 2010-09-04 9:15 PM (#1473 - in reply to #1472) (#1473) Top


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    The score page is updated to take care of different bonus points.
    Players who have taken the test can check their final score by visiting the score page.
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    Subject: Re: LMI September Puzzle Test - EverGreens II @ 2010-09-05 5:26 AM (#1474 - in reply to #1403) (#1474) Top


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    Deb,

    I submitted the answer in a slightly wrong format for Number Pyramid but I think I solved the puzzle correctly. Can you check it for me?

    Thank you,

    David McNeill.

    PS Enjoyed the puzzles.
    debmohanty
    Subject: Re: LMI September Puzzle Test - EverGreens II @ 2010-09-05 5:51 AM (#1475 - in reply to #1474) (#1475) Top



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    David McNeill - 2010-09-05 5:26 AM
    I submitted the answer in a slightly wrong format for Number Pyramid but I think I solved the puzzle correctly. Can you check it for me?
    done. added 30 points to your score.
    David McNeill
    Subject: Re: LMI September Puzzle Test - EverGreens II @ 2010-09-05 5:52 AM (#1476 - in reply to #1403) (#1476) Top


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    Thanks Deb. I'll say more about the puzzles later.

    David McNeill.
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    Subject: RE: LMI September Puzzle Test - EverGreens II @ 2010-09-05 11:40 AM (#1477 - in reply to #1403) (#1477) Top




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    Deb -- My compliments once again - despite a rather sluggish performance, I really enjoyed the puzzles and the format. As always, looking forward to the next one!Best regards, Dave
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    Subject: RE: LMI September Puzzle Test - EverGreens II @ 2010-09-05 12:21 PM (#1478 - in reply to #1477) (#1478) Top



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    davep - 2010-09-05 11:40 AM

    Deb -- My compliments once again - despite a rather sluggish performance, I really enjoyed the puzzles and the format. As always, looking forward to the next one!Best regards, Dave
    Thanks Dave. We hope to continue improving with each test.
    Ziti
    Subject: Re: LMI September Puzzle Test - EverGreens II @ 2010-09-05 1:42 PM (#1479 - in reply to #1403) (#1479) Top




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    Pleasant as always! I believe the answer submission was the only weakness here -- it was of course a fair answer submission but required an unfortunate amount of attention in some cases, and even then mistakes could still be made. But that is what happens with internet tests, and it did not detract from the overall enjoyment. Good work, thank you Deb.
    debmohanty
    Subject: Re: LMI September Puzzle Test - EverGreens II @ 2010-09-05 3:40 PM (#1480 - in reply to #1479) (#1480) Top



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    Ziti - 2010-09-05 1:42 PM

    Pleasant as always! I believe the answer submission was the only weakness here -- it was of course a fair answer submission but required an unfortunate amount of attention in some cases, and even then mistakes could still be made. But that is what happens with internet tests, and it did not detract from the overall enjoyment. Good work, thank you Deb.
    I agree with you. After some 'guessable' answer keys in BP, I re-did some of the answer keys for this test, and in that process some answer keys became much longer than probably needed, and hence error-prone.
    But yes, as you mentioned, it is very important to strike a balance in the answer keys - between being guessable and too-lengthy/error-prone.
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    Subject: Re: LMI September Puzzle Test - EverGreens II @ 2010-09-05 7:02 PM (#1481 - in reply to #1403) (#1481) Top



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    Very nice puzzles. Enjoyed a lot solving these puzzles. Submission part was tough. Lost around 103 points as I could not submit answer for one puzzle in group E in time. Big learning from this test. Thanks Deb for creating such a great set of puzzles.
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    Subject: RE: LMI September Puzzle Test - EverGreens II @ 2010-09-05 7:14 PM (#1482 - in reply to #1403) (#1482) Top



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    Thanks for the test !

    It shows to me that I'm really a "sudoku-only player", as I made a ridiculous score !

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