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20/10 Puzzle Decathlon - LMI October Puzzle Test #2
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motris
Subject: RE: 20/10 Puzzle Decathlon - LMI October Puzzle Test #2 @ 2010-10-14 7:29 AM (#2187 - in reply to #2184) (#2187) Top




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Very nice puzzle figonometry

I post (at least) one puzzle on my blog every week, and this week's Friday Puzzle will be an example of one of the mutants I've made for the test. I'm running a poll on my blog for the next day to determine what that example will be, so please make your opinion heard. I'll link to the puzzle here when it is posted, around 8 AM GMT on Friday.

Edited by motris 2010-10-14 7:37 AM
debmohanty
Subject: RE: 20/10 Puzzle Decathlon - LMI October Puzzle Test #2 @ 2010-10-14 8:49 AM (#2188 - in reply to #2187) (#2188) Top



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motris - 2010-10-14 7:29 AM

I post (at least) one puzzle on my blog every week, and this week's Friday Puzzle will be an example of one of the mutants I've made for the test. I'm running a poll on my blog for the next day to determine what that example will be, so please make your opinion heard. I'll link to the puzzle here when it is posted, around 8 AM GMT on Friday.
Please consider posting top 2 or 3 most voted puzzles
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Subject: RE: 20/10 Puzzle Decathlon - LMI October Puzzle Test #2 @ 2010-10-14 9:12 AM (#2189 - in reply to #2132) (#2189) Top


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If anyone is in Bangalore and want to take this test offline with some of us, please read here. Sorry about hijacking this thread.
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Subject: Re: 20/10 Puzzle Decathlon - LMI October Puzzle Test #2 @ 2010-10-15 6:23 AM (#2195 - in reply to #2155) (#2195) Top


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The password protected puzzle booklet is uploaded. motris has already explained the layout of the pdf is already explained here.

Also, the cover page has a points table that can also be used to keep track of solved puzzles.
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Subject: RE: 20/10 Puzzle Decathlon - Answer Format @ 2010-10-15 6:40 AM (#2196 - in reply to #2132) (#2196) Top


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Like every other test, we'll be displaying the results as soon as a player finishes the test. So please stick to the answer format.

The submission site is designed such that it will warn when an answer is typed in an unexpected format.
For example see image below,

[ In the top box commas are unexpected. In the bottom box, 6 is unexpected. ]

Before submitting, please make sure that you don't have any warnings in red color.
However, even if you have warnings, your submission will be successful, your answer will be recorded without any issues.
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Subject: RE: 20/10 Puzzle Decathlon - LMI October Puzzle Test #2 @ 2010-10-15 6:48 AM (#2197 - in reply to #2132) (#2197) Top


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About submission time recording -
Please note that there is only one "Submit Answers" button for all 30 puzzles.
When you click on "Submit Answers", all the modified answers will be submitted. ('modified' meaning 'modified since you last submitted')
So individual submission time for each puzzle is stored in our database.

You can submit as many times as you want, before you time ends.
At any point in time, you can look at the message below "Submit Answers" button and see how many submissions are recorded.

motris
Subject: RE: 20/10 Puzzle Decathlon - LMI October Puzzle Test #2 @ 2010-10-15 9:22 AM (#2198 - in reply to #2187) (#2198) Top




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Many of you voted, and I wrote a Shape Nurikabe example to introduce one of the new mutants. Here is a Shape Nurikabe that follows the rules outlined in the IB; a similarly sized puzzle willl be in the Decathlon.



Find the answer here: Shape Nurikabe Answer.

Best of luck and skill to all the competitors this weekend!
DreamRose311
Subject: Re: 20/10 Puzzle Decathlon - LMI October Puzzle Test #2 @ 2010-10-15 8:23 PM (#2200 - in reply to #2198) (#2200) Top




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Fun! You say similarly sized, will it also be similar difficulty level?
thesubro
Subject: RE: 20/10 Puzzle Decathlon - LMI October Puzzle Test #2 @ 2010-10-16 6:29 AM (#2203 - in reply to #2132) (#2203) Top




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The Instructions for the Big Tent say:
1. The numbers outside the grid indicate the number of tents in
that row or column.
2. ... each (Big) tent occupies two adjacent squares instead of just
one square.

In the Big Tent example, there is one row and one column that denote the number 3 (meaning 3 tents), but there are only 2 tents in each taking up 3 cells. Therefore, on the Big Tent puzzle, the numbers outside the grid are actually supposed to indicate the number of cells that have tents in that row or column.

I have not done the test yet, but I feel that this instruction and example discrepancy should be clarified or corrected. I see that you have addressed it in the forum, but many will not have read the forum and will struggle unnecessarily with the mutant, so you should probably update the .pdf.

Thanks.

Ken Levine
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debmohanty
Subject: RE: 20/10 Puzzle Decathlon - LMI October Puzzle Test #2 @ 2010-10-16 6:57 AM (#2204 - in reply to #2203) (#2204) Top



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Hi Ken, as you mentioned, from the example image in the Big Tents Party it is pretty clear that the numbers represent the number of cells.

motris has already fixed these in his local copy, but we don't plan to upload the latest version in the server. Lot of players have already downloaded the IB, they won't download again unless we make an announcement. Making an announcement is always confusing, and we would like to avoid it since it is only an obvious mistake in the IB.
DreamRose311
Subject: Re: 20/10 Puzzle Decathlon - LMI October Puzzle Test #2 @ 2010-10-16 7:53 AM (#2206 - in reply to #2132) (#2206) Top




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The test was sooo much fun, Thanks Thomas Snyder!! The bad thing though, is I've had my first submission error... forgot a line on a skyscrapers... Oh well, thanks again!!
Gareth
Subject: Re: 20/10 Puzzle Decathlon - LMI October Puzzle Test #2 @ 2010-10-16 8:11 AM (#2207 - in reply to #2132) (#2207) Top




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If you are stupid and enter the Tents Mutant solution into the Tents Hard box, is there any chance of getting credit anyway? :) (which, erm, I did... oops)
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Subject: Re: 20/10 Puzzle Decathlon - LMI October Puzzle Test #2 @ 2010-10-16 8:25 AM (#2208 - in reply to #2207) (#2208) Top



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Gareth - 2010-10-16 8:11 AM

If you are stupid and enter the Tents Mutant solution into the Tents Hard box, is there any chance of getting credit anyway? :) (which, erm, I did... oops)

Marked the tent as correct. Please check your score again.
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Subject: Re: 20/10 Puzzle Decathlon - LMI October Puzzle Test #2 @ 2010-10-16 9:18 AM (#2209 - in reply to #2208) (#2209) Top




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Really nice puzzles!! (though i scored bad) Had real fun!! Thank you so much Thomas and LMI!!
mathgrant
Subject: Re: 20/10 Puzzle Decathlon - LMI October Puzzle Test #2 @ 2010-10-16 9:36 AM (#2210 - in reply to #2132) (#2210) Top



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Well, I decided to make my grand Logic Masters India debut, and try one of these test things for fun. The puzzles, as was to be expected given the author, were very very high quality, and I got a real rush every time I managed to finish a puzzle within the time limit.

I made a very n00bish mistake by waiting until 22 minutes were left before submitting any answers; that may have cost me a ton of time bonus points. I guess I wasn't sure whether I could submit more than once or not, so I waited a bit, to be safe. :[
TroyS
Subject: Re: 20/10 Puzzle Decathlon - LMI October Puzzle Test #2 @ 2010-10-16 10:38 AM (#2211 - in reply to #2132) (#2211) Top




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Great Test. Thanks. Any chance of points on an easy battleship for entering 1's and 0's instead of n's and o's?
thesubro
Subject: Re: 20/10 Puzzle Decathlon - LMI October Puzzle Test #2 @ 2010-10-16 12:12 PM (#2212 - in reply to #2132) (#2212) Top




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Best test I have done on LMI yet. Nice pace and great puzzles. On the Hard Nurikabe, I had a brain lapse and did my 0s and 1s correct for Column A and then reversed them on Column. Any relief would be appreciated. Sorry to beg, but I feel compelled. Thanks for everything about this competition and website. Thanks.
Ken Levine
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Subject: Re: 20/10 Puzzle Decathlon - LMI October Puzzle Test #2 @ 2010-10-16 4:34 PM (#2215 - in reply to #2210) (#2215) Top



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mathgrant - 2010-10-16 9:36 AM

Well, I decided to make my grand Logic Masters India debut, and try one of these test things for fun. The puzzles, as was to be expected given the author, were very very high quality, and I got a real rush every time I managed to finish a puzzle within the time limit.

I made a very n00bish mistake by waiting until 22 minutes were left before submitting any answers; that may have cost me a ton of time bonus points. I guess I wasn't sure whether I could submit more than once or not, so I waited a bit, to be safe. :[

Grand LMI debut! That was nice.
You could submit as many times as you want. We just explained this few posts back (in this thread itself)
Also, you can check your score immediately after you complete the test.
vopani
Subject: Re: 20/10 Puzzle Decathlon - LMI October Puzzle Test #2 @ 2010-10-16 4:52 PM (#2216 - in reply to #2132) (#2216) Top


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Amazing set of high quality puzzles Thomas. It definitely is one of the best tests at LMI so far.
Detailed feedback about puzzles on Monday :-)
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Subject: Re: 20/10 Puzzle Decathlon - LMI October Puzzle Test #2 @ 2010-10-16 6:15 PM (#2217 - in reply to #2216) (#2217) Top




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Awesome set of puzzles ................ really enjoyed...
I agree with Rohan..........one of the best so far..........
motris
Subject: Re: 20/10 Puzzle Decathlon - LMI October Puzzle Test #2 @ 2010-10-16 7:47 PM (#2219 - in reply to #2212) (#2219) Top




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thesubro - 2010-10-16 12:12 PM

Best test I have done on LMI yet. Nice pace and great puzzles. On the Hard Nurikabe, I had a brain lapse and did my 0s and 1s correct for Column A and then reversed them on Column. Any relief would be appreciated. Sorry to beg, but I feel compelled. Thanks for everything about this competition and website. Thanks.
Ken Levine
"TheSubro"


My goal on grading is to be lenient in cases where it's clear that a solver has an answer and simply made a mistake on the answer entry. This means mistakes like reversing 1's and 0's in the Nurikabe or putting the Mutant answer in the Hard spot will likely get credit, but I'm waiting until more solvers have answered to see what are the common entry mistakes to deal with.
gramar
Subject: Re: 20/10 Puzzle Decathlon - LMI October Puzzle Test #2 @ 2010-10-16 8:11 PM (#2221 - in reply to #2132) (#2221) Top




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Really enjoyed this, thank you Thomas - it was great to have a set of puzzles which was accessible to the enthsiastic amateur like myself as well as expert puzzlers! I just managed the easy ones but obtained some satisfaction in getting all 10 puzzle types correct.

Speaking of entry mistakes however, I did just get 9 marked correctly because I made a stupid error (only myself to blame) in copying out the numbers in the top row of the easy tomtom puzzle instead of the numbers for the row marked A!

Thanks again for the puzzles - just need to work on the harder ones now.
StGeorge
Subject: Re: 20/10 Puzzle Decathlon - LMI October Puzzle Test #2 @ 2010-10-16 8:44 PM (#2222 - in reply to #2219) (#2222) Top




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motris - 2010-10-16 4:47 PM

thesubro - 2010-10-16 12:12 PM

Best test I have done on LMI yet. Nice pace and great puzzles. On the Hard Nurikabe, I had a brain lapse and did my 0s and 1s correct for Column A and then reversed them on Column. Any relief would be appreciated. Sorry to beg, but I feel compelled. Thanks for everything about this competition and website. Thanks.
Ken Levine
"TheSubro"


My goal on grading is to be lenient in cases where it's clear that a solver has an answer and simply made a mistake on the answer entry. This means mistakes like reversing 1's and 0's in the Nurikabe or putting the Mutant answer in the Hard spot will likely get credit, but I'm waiting until more solvers have answered to see what are the common entry mistakes to deal with.


Well I made the exact same error on the Mutant Nurikabe - I inverted the code for Column A. Also I switched the answers for the Easy and Hard Masyu. I'd be happy if you decide to count them as correct.
Too bad I also made a solving mistake on one of the minesweepers =\
motris
Subject: Re: 20/10 Puzzle Decathlon - LMI October Puzzle Test #2 @ 2010-10-16 8:52 PM (#2223 - in reply to #2222) (#2223) Top




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StGeorge - 2010-10-16 8:44 PM

Well I made the exact same error on the Mutant Nurikabe - I inverted the code for Column A. Also I switched the answers for the Easy and Hard Masyu. I'd be happy if you decide to count them as correct.
Too bad I also made a solving mistake on one of the minesweepers =\


You should now see credit for this entry.
StGeorge
Subject: Re: 20/10 Puzzle Decathlon - LMI October Puzzle Test #2 @ 2010-10-16 8:57 PM (#2224 - in reply to #2223) (#2224) Top




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motris - 2010-10-16 5:52 PM
You should now see credit for this entry.


Cool, thanks :)
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