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Word Show — November Puzzle Test — 17th-19th November
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Subject: Word Show — November Puzzle Test — 17th-19th November @ 2012-11-09 1:25 PM (#8941) (#8941) Top


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Subject: Re: Word Show — November Puzzle Test — 17th-19th November @ 2012-11-13 5:20 AM (#8944 - in reply to #8941) (#8944) Top


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Logic Masters India announces November Puzzle Test — Word Show

Author : Nikola Zivanovic

Dates : 17nd — 19th November

Length : 90 minutes

IB and Submission Link : here

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Subject: Re: Word Show — November Puzzle Test — 17th-19th November @ 2012-11-13 5:45 PM (#8946 - in reply to #8941) (#8946) Top




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A few clarifications.
Hidden Words: I'm right to think that all words have to be placed in a straight line, readable from left to right or top to bottom. It's not mentioned in the instructions, but otherwise the example isn't unique.
Sigma Snake: The given letters aren't necessarily the head and tail of the snake. In the Snake Variations Contest they were.


Edited by Para 2012-11-13 5:48 PM
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Subject: Re: Word Show — November Puzzle Test — 17th-19th November @ 2012-11-13 7:05 PM (#8947 - in reply to #8946) (#8947) Top


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Hidden Words: I'm right to think that all words have to be placed in a straight line, readable from left to right or top to bottom. It's not mentioned in the instructions, but otherwise the example isn't unique.


Yes, you are right.



Sigma Snake: The given letters aren't necessarily the head and tail of the snake. In the Snake Variations Contest they were.


Two letters in grey cells represent head and tail of the snake. Some other letters may be given (e. g. like number 23 in classic snake). Those letters are not in grey cells and they are part of the snake. I hope it's clear now.
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Subject: Re: Word Show — November Puzzle Test — 17th-19th November @ 2012-11-13 9:03 PM (#8948 - in reply to #8941) (#8948) Top


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Hi, I have also few questions.

Will be the proper answer rows marked in the PB?
Is it possible that we may cover 2x2 square only with a path (without any letters) in the puzzle no. 7 - Word Connection?
Is Slovakia one of the countries used in puzzle no. 12 - Word Search?

Thanks
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Subject: Re: Word Show — November Puzzle Test — 17th-19th November @ 2012-11-14 1:44 AM (#8949 - in reply to #8948) (#8949) Top


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Will be the proper answer rows marked in the PB?


Answer rows will be marked by an arrow(s) in all puzzles except in ABC Decoder and Word Connection.


Is it possible that we may cover 2x2 square only with a path (without any letters) in the puzzle no. 7 - Word Connection?


Yes, it is possible. There is no condition about 2x2 squares.


Is Slovakia one of the countries used in puzzle no. 12 - Word Search?


Slovakia is one of the listed countries, of course.

Edited by Nikola 2012-11-14 1:49 AM
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Subject: Re: Word Show — November Puzzle Test — 17th-19th November @ 2012-11-14 2:44 AM (#8950 - in reply to #8949) (#8950) Top


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Thank you, Nikola!

This seems to be one of my favourite tests
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Subject: Re: Word Show — November Puzzle Test — 17th-19th November @ 2012-11-14 5:27 AM (#8951 - in reply to #8949) (#8951) Top


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One small correction
Probably, there is one sentence missing from the instruction of puzzle no. 4 - Snail´s nest: ... Firstly replace one of the states with another state and then write the names into its own snail ... (E.g. Nebraska - New York)
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Subject: Re: Word Show — November Puzzle Test — 17th-19th November @ 2012-11-14 11:01 AM (#8952 - in reply to #8941) (#8952) Top




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I have a question about FULL TAPA.

There is a sentence in the Answer key paragraph - "in each answer key indicated by an arrow there will be at least one letter".
I wonder why this sentence doesn't appear in other puzzles.
Does that means we should use this condition to reach a unique solution at FULL TAPA?
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Subject: Re: Word Show — November Puzzle Test — 17th-19th November @ 2012-11-14 11:21 AM (#8953 - in reply to #8951) (#8953) Top


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greenhorn - 2012-11-14 5:27 AM

One small correction
Probably, there is one sentence missing from the instruction of puzzle no. 4 - Snail´s nest: ... Firstly replace one of the states with another state and then write the names into its own snail ... (E.g. Nebraska - New York)
The given word list is not correct.
2 practice puzzles from Indian Puzzle Championship 2011 attached.



Attachments
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Attachments IPC2011_Finals_Round3_Four_Snails.pdf (28KB - 16 downloads)
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Subject: Re: Word Show — November Puzzle Test — 17th-19th November @ 2012-11-15 4:19 AM (#8954 - in reply to #8952) (#8954) Top


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I have a question about FULL TAPA.

There is a sentence in the Answer key paragraph - "in each answer key indicated by an arrow there will be at least one letter".
I wonder why this sentence doesn't appear in other puzzles.
Does that means we should use this condition to reach a unique solution at FULL TAPA?

Thank you, Yuhei. Sorry, I should note that in the general instructions. This is not a condition, just an information, obviously bad placed. I tried to predict the possible question "what if there is no letters in answer row?"
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Subject: Re: Word Show — November Puzzle Test — 17th-19th November @ 2012-11-15 4:24 AM (#8955 - in reply to #8951) (#8955) Top


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greenhorn - 2012-11-14 5:27 AM

One small correction
Probably, there is one sentence missing from the instruction of puzzle no. 4 - Snail´s nest: ... Firstly replace one of the states with another state and then write the names into its own snail ... (E.g. Nebraska - New York)


This is what happens when you do not pay enough attention for the instructions using copy-paste technology only. Sorry.
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Subject: Re: Word Show — November Puzzle Test — 17th-19th November @ 2012-11-15 5:45 PM (#8957 - in reply to #8954) (#8957) Top




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Nikola - 2012-11-15 4:19 AM

I have a question about FULL TAPA.

There is a sentence in the Answer key paragraph - "in each answer key indicated by an arrow there will be at least one letter".
I wonder why this sentence doesn't appear in other puzzles.
Does that means we should use this condition to reach a unique solution at FULL TAPA?

Thank you, Yuhei. Sorry, I should note that in the general instructions. This is not a condition, just an information, obviously bad placed. I tried to predict the possible question "what if there is no letters in answer row?"

Thanks Nikola, that makes a sense.

I'm really looking forward to this kind of test; it's a chance in a million for me to beat Hideaki and Kota

Edited by Yuhei Kusui 2012-11-15 5:46 PM
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Subject: Re: Word Show — November Puzzle Test — 17th-19th November @ 2012-11-16 12:19 PM (#8964 - in reply to #8941) (#8964) Top


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Links to lot of practice materials from Bram's blog and following Serkan's comment - http://puzzleparasite.blogspot.in/2012/11/puzzle-139-abc-decoder.ht...
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Subject: Re: Word Show — November Puzzle Test — 17th-19th November @ 2012-11-16 10:06 PM (#8968 - in reply to #8941) (#8968) Top


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Announcements

• Password protected pdf is uploaded. It has 7 pages. There is no cover page / points table.
• Note about WORD CONNECTION : Answer format checking for the puzzle is not enabled.
• Link to score page : http://logicmastersindia.com/M201211P/score.asp
• The score page also has new feedback system tab.


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Subject: Re: Word Show — November Puzzle Test — 17th-19th November @ 2012-11-17 7:12 AM (#8971 - in reply to #8941) (#8971) Top




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Well my goal of leading the test at one point worked by taking it right at the start. I had fun. I enjoyed what I managed to solve.
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Subject: Re: Word Show — November Puzzle Test — 17th-19th November @ 2012-11-17 10:32 AM (#8973 - in reply to #8941) (#8973) Top



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So I'm not used to word puzzles -_-

Nice test and tribute to WPC 2012.
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Subject: Re: Word Show — November Puzzle Test — 17th-19th November @ 2012-11-18 3:57 AM (#8976 - in reply to #8973) (#8976) Top


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3 letters away from the word search (last puzzle) with one minute to go... and I discover after the test that my missing letter set was wrong, which explains why I couldn't finish it. Ouch. And for what is probably my new greatest oops in puzzle competitions, I missed the word stairs because I forgot to put my own name in.

Having the same word set for all puzzles was a nice touch, even ignoring that my name was in it. Meant that you could start picking up speed in the middle of the test as you got more used to the quirks of that particular word bank. Word Nurikabe for example seemed impossible when I tried it at the beginning, then not all that hard when I came back to it at the end.
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Subject: Re: Word Show — November Puzzle Test — 17th-19th November @ 2012-11-18 5:25 PM (#8977 - in reply to #8941) (#8977) Top




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Certainly a nice test, a good mixture of intuitive word placement thinking and some more working puzzles. Even if my name was "included". :D Was surprising to fail on the Scrabble even after spending a few minutes on it - am not used to that. Great stuff.
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Subject: Re: Word Show — November Puzzle Test — 17th-19th November @ 2012-11-18 5:56 PM (#8978 - in reply to #8941) (#8978) Top




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What a Good test! Nikola, Great Job!
But, I had a sad feeling because my place at WPC was 11th. If I had performed little better, my name would have been listed in the puzzles...
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Subject: Re: Word Show — November Puzzle Test — 17th-19th November @ 2012-11-18 6:27 PM (#8979 - in reply to #8941) (#8979) Top





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 How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? A bit skewed
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Mostly perfect answer keys
 How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? Just right
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


am I the only one which has replied to this questionaire?

Edited by forcolin 2012-11-18 6:41 PM
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Subject: Re: Word Show — November Puzzle Test — 17th-19th November @ 2012-11-18 7:01 PM (#8980 - in reply to #8979) (#8980) Top


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forcolin - 2012-11-18 6:27 PM

am I the only one which has replied to this questionaire?


I believe you're the only one who's posted it on the forum so far. I'm sure others have voted.

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Subject: Re: Word Show — November Puzzle Test — 17th-19th November @ 2012-11-18 7:02 PM (#8981 - in reply to #8941) (#8981) Top


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 How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? Very skewed
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Too many hard puzzles
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Below Average
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Perfect answer keys
 How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? Way too many puzzles (too little time)
 How fair do you think the rankings were? Most players got scores that did not reflect their performance
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


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Subject: Re: Word Show — November Puzzle Test — 17th-19th November @ 2012-11-18 7:06 PM (#8982 - in reply to #8980) (#8982) Top



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prasanna16391 - 2012-11-18 7:01 PM

forcolin - 2012-11-18 6:27 PM

am I the only one which has replied to this questionaire?


I believe you're the only one who's posted it on the forum so far. I'm sure others have voted.

Should we say "first one", and "not only one"?
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Subject: Re: Word Show — November Puzzle Test — 17th-19th November @ 2012-11-18 7:12 PM (#8983 - in reply to #8982) (#8983) Top


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debmohanty - 2012-11-18 7:06 PM

Should we say "first one", and "not only one"?


"so far"
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