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WPMM — LMI September Puzzle Test #2 — 22nd - 29th September 2013
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Subject: WPMM — LMI September Puzzle Test #2 — 22nd - 29th September 2013 @ 2013-09-16 8:39 AM (#12720) (#12720) Top


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Details coming soon
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Subject: Re: WPMM — LMI September Puzzle Test #2 — 22nd - 29th September 2013 @ 2013-09-16 10:07 AM (#12721 - in reply to #12720) (#12721) Top




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Wacky Puzzle Mini Marathon?
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Subject: Re: WPMM — LMI September Puzzle Test #2 — 22nd - 29th September 2013 @ 2013-09-16 10:08 AM (#12722 - in reply to #12721) (#12722) Top


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Para - 2013-09-16 10:07 AM

Wacky Puzzle Mini Marathon?
50% correct (i.e. 2 out of 4 words are correct)
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Subject: Re: WPMM — LMI September Puzzle Test #2 — 22nd - 29th September 2013 @ 2013-09-16 9:13 PM (#12725 - in reply to #12722) (#12725) Top


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Wacky Puzzle Match Maker?
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Subject: Re: WPMM — LMI September Puzzle Test #2 — 22nd - 29th September 2013 @ 2013-09-16 9:32 PM (#12726 - in reply to #12725) (#12726) Top



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greenhorn - 2013-09-16 9:13 PM

Wacky Puzzle Match Maker?
0% Correct.
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Subject: Re: WPMM — LMI September Puzzle Test #2 — 22nd - 29th September 2013 @ 2013-09-16 9:45 PM (#12728 - in reply to #12720) (#12728) Top


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This is like a Mastermind puzzle playing out here.

So only W and P is not decided, and we know what they can't be.

W= Winter?
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Subject: Re: WPMM — LMI September Puzzle Test #2 — 22nd - 29th September 2013 @ 2013-09-17 1:57 AM (#12733 - in reply to #12728) (#12733) Top


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Logic Masters India announces September Puzzle Test #2 — WPMM

Dates : 22nd — 29th September

Instruction Booklet & Submission : here

Authors : Gyula Slenker, Pál Madarassy & Zoltán Horváth

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Subject: Re: WPMM — LMI September Puzzle Test #2 — 22nd - 29th September 2013 @ 2013-09-17 5:38 AM (#12738 - in reply to #12720) (#12738) Top




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Yay!
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Subject: Re: WPMM — LMI September Puzzle Test #2 — 22nd - 29th September 2013 @ 2013-09-17 8:40 AM (#12741 - in reply to #12720) (#12741) Top




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Question: In Pentomino Blokus, the pieces can be rotated and reflected, not all pieces need to be used, but each piece can only be used 1 time maximum?
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Subject: Re: WPMM — LMI September Puzzle Test #2 — 22nd - 29th September 2013 @ 2013-09-17 10:19 AM (#12745 - in reply to #12741) (#12745) Top


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kiwijam - 2013-09-17 8:40 AM

Question: In Pentomino Blokus, the pieces can be rotated and reflected, not all pieces need to be used, but each piece can only be used 1 time maximum?


Exactly.
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Subject: Re: WPMM — LMI September Puzzle Test #2 — 22nd - 29th September 2013 @ 2013-09-17 2:12 PM (#12746 - in reply to #12745) (#12746) Top


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Bonus Structure

The WP Mini Marathon is similar to Puzzle Marathon in many ways. So the bonus structure will be exactly same.

Details
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For any particular round
Let,
n = number of players submitting all puzzles correctly in the round within 60 minutes
B = Solving time of the best player
M = Median solving time of the n players

There are 2 components for bonus in each round.

Rank Bonus = 60 * (n + 1 - player's rank) / n
So the best player gets 60 points as Rank bonus.

Solving Time Bonus
If a player's solving time is <= M, he will get 30 + 30 * ( player's solving time - M ) / (B - M) (A linear distribution between 30 and 60 between the best player and the player with median time)
If a player's solving time is > M, he will get 30 - 30 * ( player's solving time - M ) / (60 minutes - M) (A linear distribution between 30 and 0 between the player with median time and 60 minutes)
So the best player again gets 60 points as Solving Time Bonus.


Also, as mentioned in the IB,
  • All rounds will be IG (Instant Grading) enabled.
  • 1.5 minutes penalty for each of first 2 wrong submissions.
  • 3 minutes penalty for each subsequent wrong submission.
  • Individual puzzle value becomes 80% after 60 minutes.
  • All 4 rounds score will be summed for final score in the test.

chaotic_iak
Subject: Re: WPMM — LMI September Puzzle Test #2 — 22nd - 29th September 2013 @ 2013-09-18 8:18 AM (#12762 - in reply to #12720) (#12762) Top



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In IB, the rules of Price Tag has the following: "each placeholder becomes a digit". Does this mean every set of segments must become a digit and may not be left empty? For example, in "_1 + _9 = 10", there are two empty places.
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Subject: Re: WPMM — LMI September Puzzle Test #2 — 22nd - 29th September 2013 @ 2013-09-18 9:06 AM (#12767 - in reply to #12762) (#12767) Top



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Also, in Pentomino Samurai, will we get the grid in samurai fashion in the actual PB (instead of assembling them first like in the IB)?
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Subject: Re: WPMM — LMI September Puzzle Test #2 — 22nd - 29th September 2013 @ 2013-09-18 11:40 AM (#12769 - in reply to #12767) (#12769) Top



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chaotic_iak - 2013-09-18 9:06 AM

Also, in Pentomino Samurai, will we get the grid in samurai fashion in the actual PB (instead of assembling them first like in the IB)?



Th IB says that "It means that to solve the middle puzzle it is necessary to find the correct positions of outer puzzles". Identifying which corner goes where is a part of the solving process.
Valezius
Subject: Re: WPMM — LMI September Puzzle Test #2 — 22nd - 29th September 2013 @ 2013-09-18 2:00 PM (#12770 - in reply to #12762) (#12770) Top


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chaotic_iak - 2013-09-18 8:18 AM

In IB, the rules of Price Tag has the following: "each placeholder becomes a digit". Does this mean every set of segments must become a digit and may not be left empty? For example, in "_1 + _9 = 10", there are two empty places.


There aren't empty placeholders.
_1+_9=10 is invalid.
And don't forget that numbers cannot start with zero, so 01+09=10 is invalid, as well.


amitsowani - 2013-09-18 11:40 AM

chaotic_iak - 2013-09-18 9:06 AM

Also, in Pentomino Samurai, will we get the grid in samurai fashion in the actual PB (instead of assembling them first like in the IB)?



Th IB says that "It means that to solve the middle puzzle it is necessary to find the correct positions of outer puzzles". Identifying which corner goes where is a part of the solving process.


Amit is right.
There will be five separated grids. You can recognise the middle one, because its corners are grey. Just like in the example.
You have to build up the correct Samurai grid.
chaotic_iak
Subject: Re: WPMM — LMI September Puzzle Test #2 — 22nd - 29th September 2013 @ 2013-09-18 8:40 PM (#12772 - in reply to #12770) (#12772) Top



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For Pentomino Samurai, I suppose I don't have to rotate the grids?

Edited by chaotic_iak 2013-09-18 8:41 PM
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Subject: Re: WPMM — LMI September Puzzle Test #2 — 22nd - 29th September 2013 @ 2013-09-18 8:46 PM (#12773 - in reply to #12772) (#12773) Top


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chaotic_iak - 2013-09-18 8:40 PM

For Pentomino Samurai, I suppose I don't have to rotate the grids?


You're right. I missed this points from the IB.
The grids cannot rotated or reflected.
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Subject: Re: WPMM — LMI September Puzzle Test #2 — 22nd - 29th September 2013 @ 2013-09-20 8:13 PM (#12791 - in reply to #12720) (#12791) Top




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In Pentomino Samurai is multiple solutions possible while individually solving, or individual grids also will have unique solution.
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Subject: Re: WPMM — LMI September Puzzle Test #2 — 22nd - 29th September 2013 @ 2013-09-20 10:16 PM (#12793 - in reply to #12791) (#12793) Top



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devarajand - 2013-09-20 8:13 PM

In Pentomino Samurai is multiple solutions possible while individually solving, or individual grids also will have unique solution.
The four outer puzzles have unique solutions, when solved independently.
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Subject: Re: WPMM — LMI September Puzzle Test #2 — 22nd - 29th September 2013 @ 2013-09-21 9:24 PM (#12813 - in reply to #12720) (#12813) Top


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Points table

Each round, as mentioned in IB, is worth 120 points. Here is the break up.

Round 1 - Price Tag - 3 puzzles. 30 + 40 + 50
Round 2 - Pentomino Samurai - The 4 outside puzzles are 20 points each. The central puzzle is 40 points.
Round 3 - Great Wall - 8 puzzles, each Wall puzzle is 15 points.
Round 4 - Black & White Matrix - 12 puzzles, each individual puzzle is 10 points.

Also, a quick note about Instant Grading - Each puzzle has a "Submit" button, so you can check the small puzzle's correctness before finishing the complete round.

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Subject: Re: WPMM — LMI September Puzzle Test #2 — 22nd - 29th September 2013 @ 2013-09-21 10:49 PM (#12815 - in reply to #12813) (#12815) Top


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About the pdfs & links

There will be four different pdfs, each with a separate password. When you start a particular round, you will have the password for that round's pdf file.

Round 1 - 3 pages - Link to start round 1
Round 2 - 3 pages - Link to start round 2
Round 3 - 1 page - Link to start round 3
Round 4 - 2 pages - Link to start round 4


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Subject: Re: WPMM — LMI September Puzzle Test #2 — 22nd - 29th September 2013 @ 2013-09-22 8:21 AM (#12818 - in reply to #12720) (#12818) Top




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How do we view score page for each puzzle?

Edited by ksun48 2013-09-22 8:25 AM
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Subject: Re: WPMM — LMI September Puzzle Test #2 — 22nd - 29th September 2013 @ 2013-09-22 8:27 AM (#12819 - in reply to #12818) (#12819) Top


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ksun48 - 2013-09-22 8:21 AM

How do we view score page for each puzzle?
The score page is not ready (yet).
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Subject: Re: WPMM — LMI September Puzzle Test #2 — 22nd - 29th September 2013 @ 2013-09-22 1:03 PM (#12820 - in reply to #12720) (#12820) Top


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This thread is now restricted.
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Subject: Re: WPMM — LMI September Puzzle Test #2 — 22nd - 29th September 2013 @ 2013-09-22 5:31 PM (#12822 - in reply to #12733) (#12822) Top




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Where do I find the password? Thanks
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