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JPL2 — LMI November Puzzle Test — 30th Nov-2nd Dec 2013
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Subject: JPL2 — LMI November Puzzle Test — 30th Nov-2nd Dec 2013 @ 2013-11-23 6:02 AM (#13561) (#13561) Top


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/*
Sequel to one of the best puzzle tests at LMI.
Details coming really soon.
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Subject: Re: LMI November Puzzle Test — 30th Nov-2nd Dec 2013 @ 2013-11-23 8:03 AM (#13562 - in reply to #13561) (#13562) Top



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wow really excited. :)
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Subject: RE: LMI November Puzzle Test — 30th Nov-2nd Dec 2013 @ 2013-11-23 7:31 PM (#13565 - in reply to #13561) (#13565) Top


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Administrator - 2013-11-23 6:02 AM

/*
Sequel to one of the best puzzle tests at LMI.
Details coming really soon.
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Deb!If that statement is something to go by,I would place my bet on Akil Oyunlari!!!
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Subject: Re: LMI November Puzzle Test — 30th Nov-2nd Dec 2013 @ 2013-11-24 12:33 AM (#13570 - in reply to #13565) (#13570) Top




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Subject: Re: JPL2 — LMI November Puzzle Test — 30th Nov-2nd Dec 2013 @ 2013-11-25 6:42 AM (#13574 - in reply to #13561) (#13574) Top


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Logic Masters India announces JPL2 — LMI November Puzzle Test

Dates : 30th Nov — 2nd Dec

Instruction Booklet & Submission : Link

Authors : Yosuke Imai, Daisuke Takei, Takeya Saikachi, Atsumi Hirose

Test Solvers : Yuka Jo & Hideaki Jo

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Subject: Re: JPL2 — LMI November Puzzle Test — 30th Nov-2nd Dec 2013 @ 2013-11-25 12:14 PM (#13577 - in reply to #13561) (#13577) Top


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Wonderful. I was ranked 162nd in JPL1. Time to continue the mad improvement in sequels

Really looking forward to this one. JPL1 falls under the category of "tests I wasn't fully able to appreciate when I just knew a handful of puzzle types".
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Subject: Re: JPL2 — LMI November Puzzle Test — 30th Nov-2nd Dec 2013 @ 2013-11-25 3:04 PM (#13578 - in reply to #13561) (#13578) Top




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Hi, I have a doubt with respect to the puzzle "Arrow Connection". One of the rules mention "A direction is given if and only if it is used". What does this imply? Why are directions not shown in all boxes wherever the loop traverses?
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Subject: Re: JPL2 — LMI November Puzzle Test — 30th Nov-2nd Dec 2013 @ 2013-11-25 3:43 PM (#13579 - in reply to #13578) (#13579) Top




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mathcrazy - 2013-11-25 3:04 PM

Hi, I have a doubt with respect to the puzzle "Arrow Connection". One of the rules mention "A direction is given if and only if it is used". What does this imply? Why are directions not shown in all boxes wherever the loop traverses?


This rule applies only to clued cells. So, for each cell in the grid, either "all possible directions are given" or "no information is given" must be true. I hope this is clear.
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Subject: Re: JPL2 — LMI November Puzzle Test — 30th Nov-2nd Dec 2013 @ 2013-11-25 3:46 PM (#13580 - in reply to #13579) (#13580) Top




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deu - 2013-11-25 3:43 PM

mathcrazy - 2013-11-25 3:04 PM

Hi, I have a doubt with respect to the puzzle "Arrow Connection". One of the rules mention "A direction is given if and only if it is used". What does this imply? Why are directions not shown in all boxes wherever the loop traverses?


This rule applies only to clued cells. So, for each cell in the grid, either "all possible directions are given" or "no information is given" must be true. I hope this is clear.


Yes, that cleared my doubt.
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Subject: Re: JPL2 — LMI November Puzzle Test — 30th Nov-2nd Dec 2013 @ 2013-11-25 6:41 PM (#13581 - in reply to #13580) (#13581) Top




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Number Connection: do all cells have to be used?
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Subject: Re: JPL2 — LMI November Puzzle Test — 30th Nov-2nd Dec 2013 @ 2013-11-25 6:51 PM (#13582 - in reply to #13581) (#13582) Top




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tamz29 - 2013-11-25 6:41 PM

Number Connection: do all cells have to be used?


Not necessarily. There may be some unused cells.
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Subject: Re: JPL2 — LMI November Puzzle Test — 30th Nov-2nd Dec 2013 @ 2013-11-25 7:46 PM (#13583 - in reply to #13582) (#13583) Top




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In Arrow Connection if an arrow appears twice around a cell, is an arrow given twice or once. I know it's not possible in the example as the start and goal are in the corners, but with different start and goal points, this could happen. For example, when you draw a spiral.
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Subject: Re: JPL2 — LMI November Puzzle Test — 30th Nov-2nd Dec 2013 @ 2013-11-25 9:01 PM (#13585 - in reply to #13583) (#13585) Top




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Para - 2013-11-25 7:46 PM

In Arrow Connection if an arrow appears twice around a cell, is an arrow given twice or once. I know it's not possible in the example as the start and goal are in the corners, but with different start and goal points, this could happen. For example, when you draw a spiral.


Good question. An arrow is given only once even in such cases.
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Subject: Re: JPL2 — LMI November Puzzle Test — 30th Nov-2nd Dec 2013 @ 2013-11-27 10:16 PM (#13599 - in reply to #13574) (#13599) Top





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Waiting for practice puzzles.

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Subject: Re: JPL2 — LMI November Puzzle Test — 30th Nov-2nd Dec 2013 @ 2013-11-28 7:44 PM (#13602 - in reply to #13561) (#13602) Top


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A practice puzzles PDF has now been posted on the submission site (Link). Please note that some of the puzzles may be of a harder difficulty than their counterparts appearing in the test.

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Subject: Re: JPL2 — LMI November Puzzle Test — 30th Nov-2nd Dec 2013 @ 2013-11-28 11:20 PM (#13605 - in reply to #13561) (#13605) Top


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Thanks, that's quite a nice service! Really looking forward to the test now.
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Subject: Re: JPL2 — LMI November Puzzle Test — 30th Nov-2nd Dec 2013 @ 2013-11-29 7:07 AM (#13607 - in reply to #13561) (#13607) Top



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In Divided sum cross it says " no digit repeat within a single group divided by black cells".
so if clue is 7:_ _ _ _ _ :17 (5 cells blank in between). so is all 5 cells considered one group or is considered as two groups ?
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swaroop2011 - 2013-11-29 7:07 AM

In Divided sum cross it says " no digit repeat within a single group divided by black cells".
so if clue is 7:_ _ _ _ _ :17 (5 cells blank in between). so is all 5 cells considered one group or is considered as two groups ?


All 5 cells are considered as one group. So, solutions like 7:1 6 | 4 7 6 :17 (two 6's in one group) are not allowed.
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Subject: Re: JPL2 — LMI November Puzzle Test — 30th Nov-2nd Dec 2013 @ 2013-11-29 11:08 AM (#13611 - in reply to #13609) (#13611) Top



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deu - 2013-11-29 8:42 AM

swaroop2011 - 2013-11-29 7:07 AM

In Divided sum cross it says " no digit repeat within a single group divided by black cells".
so if clue is 7:_ _ _ _ _ :17 (5 cells blank in between). so is all 5 cells considered one group or is considered as two groups ?


All 5 cells are considered as one group. So, solutions like 7:1 6 | 4 7 6 :17 (two 6's in one group) are not allowed.


ok thanks :)
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Subject: Re: JPL2 — LMI November Puzzle Test — 30th Nov-2nd Dec 2013 @ 2013-11-29 3:45 PM (#13612 - in reply to #13561) (#13612) Top



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Practice puzzles are awesome! Gave us clear idea about how to think about these puzzles.
Looking forward to the test :)
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Subject: Re: JPL2 — LMI November Puzzle Test — 30th Nov-2nd Dec 2013 @ 2013-11-29 11:39 PM (#13616 - in reply to #13561) (#13616) Top


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Subject: Re: JPL2 — LMI November Puzzle Test — 30th Nov-2nd Dec 2013 @ 2013-11-30 5:15 AM (#13618 - in reply to #13561) (#13618) Top


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Announcements

  • Updated versions of IB (with points table) uploaded
  • Password protected PB uploaded. It has 12 pages, each page has 2 puzzles
  • Bonus = 8 points per minute saved, if all answers are submitted and there is at most 1 small mistake.
  • Remember to enter unit digit only in case of two digit numbers. The submission page will check only for unit digit.


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    Subject: Re: JPL2 — LMI November Puzzle Test — 30th Nov-2nd Dec 2013 @ 2013-11-30 7:44 PM (#13623 - in reply to #13561) (#13623) Top




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    I don't see the link for the password. What am I missing? thanks
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    Subject: Re: JPL2 — LMI November Puzzle Test — 30th Nov-2nd Dec 2013 @ 2013-11-30 8:13 PM (#13624 - in reply to #13623) (#13624) Top


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    ladyleatherneck - 2013-11-30 7:44 PM

    I don't see the link for the password. What am I missing? thanks
    You have to first login at the submission page ( http://logicmastersindia.com/2013/11P/ ). Then click on "Start Japanese Puzzle Land 2". You will see the password. From the database log, we see that you have not "started" the test yet. After you start, you will have 2 hours to solve and submit as many puzzles.

    Please check the F.A.Q. which explains these steps with some images. Please post here if something is not clear.
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    Thanks. Looked to me like I was logged in.
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