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Location: India | Logic Masters India announces Beginners' Masyu Contest
Instructions Booklet is available here
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Location: India | Will it be online solvable |
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Location: India | devarajand - 2013-04-25 11:29 AM
Will it be online solvable No. |
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Location: India | Why the puzzels cannot be put into a JAVA appleate |
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Location: India | devarajand - 2013-04-25 9:08 PMWhy the puzzels cannot be put into a JAVA appleate Hi,
Please do not discuss about the way the puzzles can be presented to the contestants. If there is a way, LMI would do that for sure.
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Location: India | Great Idea!! looking forward to it :)
Edited by swaroop2011 2013-04-25 10:25 PM
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Location: India | devarajand - 2013-04-25 9:08 PM
Why the puzzels cannot be put into a JAVA appleate
There's certain time constraints and also a lack of expertise when it comes to develop an online interface for multiple puzzle genres. The Classic Tapa interface took a long time to get right in itself, and it'll be a while before such an interface can come in for other puzzles. Until then, we're sorry, and please do enjoy the puzzle solving experience on paper. |
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Location: India | Beginners' Masyu Contest has started
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Location: Slovakia | I am not able to see the results. It brings me back to the contest page. |
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Location: India | greenhorn - 2013-04-26 1:49 PM
I am not able to see the results. It brings me back to the contest page. Sorry Matus, it is not ready. Will take a while before its ready. You are ranked 3rd now with Prasanna16391 and EoHeongMat finishing in around 50 minutes. |
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Location: Slovakia | Administrator - 2013-04-26 1:53 PM
greenhorn - 2013-04-26 1:49 PM
I am not able to see the results. It brings me back to the contest page. Sorry Matus, it is not ready. Will take a while before its ready. You are ranked 3rd now with Prasanna16391 and EoHeongMat finishing in around 50 minutes.
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Location: India | Hi Matus,
Thanks for your participation.
Before the score page gets ready you can give your feedback on the contest. :D
Regards,
Ravi |
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Location: Slovakia | macherlakumar - 2013-04-26 1:58 PM
Hi Matus,
Thanks for your participation.
Before the score page gets ready you can give your feedback on the contest. :D
Regards,
Ravi
Thank you Ravi, I enjoy your contest a lot. I am glad, that you prepare also some harder puzzles, which were really tricky. The design of your puzzles is great, you did a good job. For me, the hardest puzzle was H, but I can explain why, maybe I missed something during solving :)
The only negative from my view is the lenght of the contest. I am not sure, if beginners are patient enough to solve such a huge number of puzzles. In my opinion 10 puzzles within 45 minutes will be ideal. But it is just my view, other solvers may have different feelings.
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Location: India | Results Page is now available
Click here.
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Location: India | Thank you Ravi, I enjoy your contest a lot. I am glad, that you prepare also some harder puzzles, which were really tricky. The design of your puzzles is great, you did a good job. I am very happy that you enjoyed and liked the contest. Thanks!
For me, the hardest puzzle was H, but I can explain why, maybe I missed something during solving :) H, yes it is difficult, the 4 Black circles in the bottom, that pattern I found when solving a Nikoli Masyu (not sure if they intentionally put that pattern or just a coincidence). Whatever is the case that patten can be used to make the puzzle slightly tricky.
The only negative from my view is the lenght of the contest. I am not sure, if beginners are patient enough to solve such a huge number of puzzles. In my opinion 10 puzzles within 45 minutes will be ideal. But it is just my view, other solvers may have different feelings As we mentioned this is still a trail phase for the Beginners' Puzzle contests, we gave a lot of thought about the competition format. The initial discussions included 20 + 1 puzzles but the number was too high and reduced it to 16 + 1. I tried my best to make 4 easy, 8 medium and 4 hard puzzles along with one 20 X 20 grid. Anyway depending on this competition feedback LMI will do its best for the next contest.
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Ravi |
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Location: United States | I had a blast with this one. It was one of the few times I've felt like I actually had a chance (albeit a small one) to claim a time bonus. H gave me trouble, as did O; the rest of the smaller ones seemed to flow pretty well, and didn't hang me up too long. I will admit to using uniqueness logic at a couple of points, and I'd have preferred to find the purely logical path, but hey, clock's ticking! :)
The bigger one definitely had me stumped for longer than I would have liked, and my ten or so minutes remaining wasn't nearly enough for me to solve it. Unfortunately, I had to do a little trial and error to figure that one out; I may try to revisit it later to see what I missed, but I just couldn't find a good way to start linking up the edge bits that came in easily, or to even really get started in the middle. Making a couple of well placed assumptions, I eventually massaged it into shape, but I want to figure out how that one ticks.
Great fun, regardless; I've never felt Masyu was a very strong category for me, but this assortment of puzzles (and preparing for them) have really helped me feel like I've got a stronger grasp of it now. Right up until a variant gets thrown at me next time. ;) |
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Location: Japan | Thanks Ravi!
I REALLY enjoyed this comtest.
This is the first time to solve completely on LMI. 
Edited by totoron8655 2013-04-26 10:51 PM
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Location: India | totoron8655 - 2013-04-26 10:50 PM Thanks Ravi!I REALLY enjoyed this comtest.This is the first time to solve completely on LMI.
I am really glad that you enjoyed my contest. Thanks for your participation.
You get to complete a whole set at LMI, It never happened to me ;(
Regards,
Ravi
Edited by macherlakumar 2013-04-27 7:33 AM
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Location: India | FoxFireX - 2013-04-26 7:26 PM
H gave me trouble, as did O. I will admit to using uniqueness logic at a couple of points, and I'd have preferred to find the purely logical path, but hey, clock's ticking! :) H, I have already mentioned so regarding O, it starts with very easy steps, only the top right 2 black circles are crucial to finish it.
Using uniqueness logic, in my opinion it is not a bad idea, I do use it sometimes, but that would be my last option.
Great fun, regardless; I've never felt Masyu was a very strong category for me, but this assortment of puzzles (and preparing for them) have really helped me feel like I've got a stronger grasp of it now. Right up until a variant gets thrown at me next time. ;) some people may be good at one puzzle type so contests like this are perfect way to show their skills
Thanks for your particiaption.
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Location: India | It was a great contest. Few puzzles where very tricky and i did took time there. Did some mistake while solving the big one but fortunately found the mistake immediately.
For the first time ever i was able to grab the bonus. Thanks for the great puzzles. Njoyed a lot :) . |
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Location: India | swaroop2011 - 2013-04-27 2:02 PM
It was a great contest. Few puzzles where very tricky and i did took time there. Did some mistake while solving the big one but fortunately found the mistake immediately.For the first time ever i was able to grab the bonus. Thanks for the great puzzles. Njoyed a lot :) . Happy to hear that you enjoyed the contest 
Yes few puzzles are tricky else there won't be any fun, right ?
Thanks for your participation.
Regards,
Ravi
Edited by macherlakumar 2013-04-27 4:24 PM
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Location: United Kingdom | With my competitive hat on, I really ought to have been at least 10 minutes quicker... I tripped myself up on A E and H - stupidly the thing with H was not the nice configuration with 4 black circles, which is the sort of thing I also save for harder puzzles (actually, you only need 2 black circles and white to set up that trick).
I didn't solve the big puzzle remotely cleanly - I'll have to try solving again to see if there was a more pleasing solution. Was the idea to fiddle around with the loop section from the middle-left to top-left and work from there?
I think of the set, M was my favourite - although the standard overall was pretty good! If I was really nitpicking I'd say maybe some of the puzzles were a little tough for a beginner, but otherwise a really fun race against the clock! |
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Location: India | detuned - 2013-04-27 7:27 PM
stupidly the thing with H was not the nice configuration with 4 black circles, which is the sort of thing I also save for harder puzzles (actually, you only need 2 black circles and white to set up that trick). This was constructed at my early days as a puzzle designer. I felt using 4 black would be good and did so.
Was the idea to fiddle around with the loop section from the middle-left to top-left and work from there? Middle-left to top-left is one part and then you have to work on the center.
I think of the set, M was my favourite - although the standard overall was pretty good! M is very nice design although I could have put a white circle at R10C5 to make it symmetrical, but that would decrease the difficulty. I am happy that you liked the overall standard.
If I was really nitpicking I'd say maybe some of the puzzles were a little tough for a beginner, but otherwise a really fun race against the clock! Since the idea is still in trail phase, depending on this competition the future Beginners' puzzle competitions may be changed.
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Ravi |
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Location: Indonesia | I don't know why, but I feel like the puzzles are somewhat repetitive. There are just so many tricks that are used over and over. Well, perhaps it's due to the fact that I solved it when half-asleep, so I can't quite remember things...heh. |
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Location: United States | Nice puzzles and contest!
The simple entry format (easy to count, not prone to errors) was a real pleasure.
The beginner sudoku contest format, with two short 40 min segments and a break between segments, is nice. That would also have been nice here (select 2 groups of puzzles, even though the rules are the same). For that matter, I'd be happy to see multiple shorter segments even in non-beginner contests :)
Enjoyed the puzzles. I also found H to be hard. I resorted to uniqueness logic in various puzzles several times (unsatisfying), and also some guesses (even less satisfying).
I do most of my masyu solving on nikoli. Overall these puzzles seemed on the hard side, especially for a beginner contest. I notice several beginners have already placed well. Congratulations! |
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