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Location: Slovakia | | How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? | Perfectly balanced | | | What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? | A bit easy | | | What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? | Fairly Nice | | | How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? | Just right | | | Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did their point values reflect the difficulty/time spent? | Many puzzles were worth too much or too little | | | What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? | Just right | |
Thanks for a nice contest.
I really liked most of the puzzles and appreciate that there were many totally different types.
But the point distribution was not so good. I have solved the puzzle nr. 24 (55 pts) six times due stupid mistakes, but it takes me still less than BBT sudoku (20 pts) or Coast to Coast (35 pts). Probably Three is a Crowd was the easiest variant of the whole contest. |
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Location: Iran | | How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? | Perfectly balanced | | | What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? | Just right | | | What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? | Very nice | | | How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? | A bit too many puzzles | | | Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did their point values reflect the difficulty/time spent? | All puzzles were worth the right amount | | | What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? | Just right | |
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Location: Turkey | | How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? | Fairly balanced | | | What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? | Just right | | | What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? | Very nice | | | How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? | A bit too many puzzles | | | Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did their point values reflect the difficulty/time spent? | Most puzzles were worth the right amount | | | What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? | Just right | |
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Location: The Netherlands | Thanks a lot for a nice contest, although the puzzles were a bit too easy for my taste. I especially liked the design of the 1011 Sudoku, nicely done! |
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Location: Czech Republic | | How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? | Fairly balanced | | | What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? | Just right | | | What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? | Fairly Nice | | | How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? | Just right | | | Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did their point values reflect the difficulty/time spent? | Most puzzles were worth the right amount | | | What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? | Just right | |
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Location: Germany | | How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? | Perfectly balanced | | | What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? | Just right | | | What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? | Very nice | | | How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? | A bit too many puzzles | | | Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did their point values reflect the difficulty/time spent? | Most puzzles were worth the right amount | | | What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? | Just right | |
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Location: Switzerland | TiiT - 2013-06-29 2:01 PM
The tripod had much more worth than the rest. At least for me. Too much guessing and trying to fit the borders and that takes some time if you are just sudoku solver.
2 tripods in 2 weeks... 0 points... lot of time lost... please stop with this shit variant in sudoku tests... 
Can someone tell me how to start the solving of this one???
Otherwise, thanks for the nice test.
Fred
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Location: France | | How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? | A bit skewed | | | What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? | Just right | | | What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? | Fairly Nice | | | How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? | Just right | | | Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did their point values reflect the difficulty/time spent? | Many puzzles were worth too much or too little | | | What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? | Just right | |
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Location: Slovakia | Fred76 - 2013-06-30 12:53 AM
2 tripods in 2 weeks... 0 points... lot of time lost... please stop with this shit variant in sudoku tests...
Fred
Why? I was just thinking about brand new Tripod sudoku tournament right here  |
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Location: Switzerland | greenhorn - 2013-06-30 1:12 AM
Fred76 - 2013-06-30 12:53 AM
2 tripods in 2 weeks... 0 points... lot of time lost... please stop with this shit variant in sudoku tests...
Fred
Why? I was just thinking about brand new Tripod sudoku tournament right here
without me... |
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Location: South Korea | | How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? | Fairly balanced | | | What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? | Just right | | | What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? | Fairly Nice | | | How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? | A bit too many puzzles | | | Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did their point values reflect the difficulty/time spent? | Most puzzles were worth the right amount | | | What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? | Just right | |
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Location: United States | | What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? | Very nice | | | How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? | A bit too many puzzles | | | Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did their point values reflect the difficulty/time spent? | Many puzzles were worth too much or too little | | | What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? | Just right | |
I would be interested to hear others' opinions on the points distribution on this test. I'm a pretty consistent competitor but certainly not fast enough to have a chance to get through more than about half of the puzzles on most tests within the time limit, so my gameplan is usually to use the points value of puzzles as a guide to decide which ones to try. Most of the time the points offered are pretty accurate - more points will generally mean a puzzle that takes me more time to complete, as it should be. But with this test I really felt like the points were often backwards. I spent a LONG time tackling several of the earlier puzzles that were 20 points or less, only to find after time was up that MANY of the puzzles worth a lot of points were FAR easier - including the 55 pointer which had no logical roadblocks along the solve at all! I know that comments like that are subjective, so I'd like to hear what other solvers' experiences were. Thanks to the constructors for the puzzles, though, they were fun... I was just a little disappointed this time with the points layout. |
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Location: Japan | Hi,
I had fun this great test, but found a bug.
In "toroidal", I couldn't move my cursor at point (7, 3) in online sudoku grid. 
Could you confirm?
yoshimasa |
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Location: India | Ah I see that all the GP results of a player + a best 6 column has been added to the results. Excellent additions  |
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Location: India | prasanna16391 - 2013-06-30 11:09 AM
Ah I see that all the GP results of a player + a best 6 column has been added to the results. Excellent additions
2. It is available only for top players, not for all.
3. Players missing in GP8 are also missing in this list. So it does not give you a correct picture. You have to compare this with results after GP7 |
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Location: India | yoshimasa - 2013-06-30 10:15 AM
Hi,
I had fun this great test, but found a bug.
In "toroidal", I couldn't move my cursor at point (7, 3 ) in online sudoku grid.
Could you confirm?
yoshimasa |
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Location: United States | | How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? | Perfectly balanced | | | What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? | Just right | | | What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? | Very nice | | | How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? | Just right | | | Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did their point values reflect the difficulty/time spent? | Most puzzles were worth the right amount | | | What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? | Just right | |
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Location: India | | How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? | Perfectly balanced | | | What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? | A bit hard | | | What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? | Very nice | | | How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? | Just right | | | Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did their point values reflect the difficulty/time spent? | Most puzzles were worth the right amount | | | What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? | Just right | |
Italian round in short words : simple and elegant.A perfect way to cap off the World sudoku Grand Prix.Thnks for the great grids authors!
Out of the ones i solved my personal favourites were Classic sudoku 11 , 10-11 Sudoku .Jigsaw .I found clean logic in the sudokus that i solved.
Classic sudoku 11 had what i would consider my find of the tourney.With over 12 mins spent on the stuck point ,i was getting increasingly anxious and was about to jump to the next grid when out of the blue i spotted the X-wing of 1.After completing the same it gave me a sense of satisfaction like nothing else.It has been a long time since i spotted an X - wing in a competetion scenario.If my memory is good i haven't seen X-wings in the Beginners' contests or in any recent monthly tests.I am doubtful whether that sudoku can be continued without the X-wing deduction.I have learnt that it is important to change the mode of thinking if a certain way does not work out.
10-11 sudoku was fun too.I am particularly fond of the way in which the "no dashes then no 10 or 11 sum" rule worked out.It was equally important in the solve just as the dashes played their part.
Jigsaw was perfectly fine and had for its share some nice tricks .Now i hope to solve the incomplete ones later.
On a different note I am surprised that each Grand prix round has thrown out a different winner so far .I m eager to see if the trend continues in this test too though there is still a chance for some of the toppers from the previous rounds to top again.
Overall i had great fun during the test and this Italian round is one of my most favourite rounds in the grand prix.Thnks to the authors once again. I can safely state that the inaugural year of the Grand prix has been a grand success!!
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An LMI Player with Sudoku ratings 500+ | | How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? | Fairly balanced | | | What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? | Just right | | | What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? | Fairly Nice | | | How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? | Just right | | | Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did their point values reflect the difficulty/time spent? | Most puzzles were worth the right amount | | | What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? | Just right | |
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Location: The Netherlands | | How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? | Perfectly balanced | | | What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? | Just right | | | What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? | Very nice | | | How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? | A bit too many puzzles | | | Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did their point values reflect the difficulty/time spent? | Many puzzles were worth too much or too little | | | What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? | Just right | |
Especially the designs of the 1011 and kropki were brilliant!
I agree with previous comments about points distribution, the 55-pointer was not hard, just a lot of work where others with less points took much more time. |
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Location: Poland | | How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? | Fairly balanced | | | What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? | A bit hard | | | What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? | Very nice | | | How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? | Just right | | | Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did their point values reflect the difficulty/time spent? | Most puzzles were worth the right amount | | | What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? | Just right | |
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Location: ITALY | | How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? | Perfectly balanced | | | What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? | Just right | | | What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? | Very nice | | | How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? | Just right | | | Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did their point values reflect the difficulty/time spent? | All puzzles were worth the right amount | | | What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? | Just right | |
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Location: Japan | debmohanty - 2013-06-30 2:16 PM
yoshimasa - 2013-06-30 10:15 AM
Hi,
I had fun this great test, but found a bug.
In "toroidal", I couldn't move my cursor at point (7, 3 ) in online sudoku grid.
Could you confirm?
yoshimasa I think it was R1C7 in toroidal. Fixed now.
Sorry my typo, and that was right. Thanks for your service |
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Location: ITALY | john_reid - 2013-06-30 8:28 AM
[...] I spent a LONG time tackling several of the earlier puzzles that were 20 points or less, only to find after time was up that MANY of the puzzles worth a lot of points were FAR easier - including the 55 pointer which had no logical roadblocks along the solve at all! I know that comments like that are subjective, so I'd like to hear what other solvers' experiences were. Thanks to the constructors for the puzzles, though, they were fun... I was just a little disappointed this time with the points layout.
I agree with you. The 55 pointer was not *that* hard, until you properly understand how to determinate the 9 wrong numbers on each side. With that done, it was a puzzle that still required a bit of work where other puzzles didn't. Hence, we decided to raise the value, in compensation of the time you might have used to solve this one. Some of the classic sudoku were harder than they were worth, in my mind, but really they had one or two hard points to cross over. We decided for lower points at these classic because they're basically grounded on a well-known logic, with no tricks, or things-to-know-before. |
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Location: United States | | How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? | Fairly balanced | | | What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? | Too many easy puzzles | | | What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? | Fairly Nice | | | How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? | A bit too many puzzles | | | Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did their point values reflect the difficulty/time spent? | Many puzzles were worth too much or too little | | | What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? | Too few pages / too small grids | |
I agree with the comments that the last 55 pointer was a lot easier than some of the others worth much less -- on the other hand, it was pretty clear from the practice puzzles that this was likely to be the case, once you see how to use the rules of this variant things go pretty quickly.
I particularly enjoyed the coded killer and the 1011. |
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