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Location: The Netherlands | | How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? | Perfectly balanced | | | What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? | Just right | | | What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? | Very nice | | | How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? | A bit too many puzzles | | | Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? | Most puzzles were worth the right amount | | | What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? | Just right | |
Thanks for the nice test Richard! |
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Location: Poland | | How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? | Fairly balanced | | | What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? | Just right | | | What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? | Very nice | | | How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? | Way too many puzzles (too little time) | | | Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? | Most puzzles were worth the right amount | | | What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? | Just right | |
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| | How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? | Fairly balanced | | | What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? | Too many hard puzzles | | | What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? | Fairly Nice | | | How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? | Way too many puzzles (too little time) | | | Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? | Most puzzles were worth the right amount | | | What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? | I have a different complaint | |
This time unfriendly contest for players without printers.
Edited by An LMI player 2013-12-15 10:04 PM
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Location: Czech Republic | | How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? | Perfectly balanced | | | What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? | Just right | | | What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? | Very nice | | | How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? | Just right | | | Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? | Many puzzles were worth too much or too little | | | What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? | Just right | |
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Location: United States | | How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? | Perfectly balanced | | | What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? | Too many medium difficult puzzles | | | What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? | Very nice | | | How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? | Way too many puzzles (too little time) | | | Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? | Most puzzles were worth the right amount | | | What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? | Too few pages / too small grids | |
I attempted the chaos renban only after the test...and found it to be easier than some puzzles worth 30-40 points. I know it can vary with individual strengths, but that's a hell of a lot of variation! |
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Location: Canada | RALehrer - 2013-12-15 3:21 PM
I attempted the chaos renban only after the test...and found it to be easier than some puzzles worth 30-40 points. I know it can vary with individual strengths, but that's a hell of a lot of variation! I agree. The chaos renban took me 10 minutes, while the other 100 pointer, x is alive took me 20. There's a few others that I think are incorrectly valued too, but the chaos renban is probably the biggest sore thumb I saw. |
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Location: France | | How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? | Fairly balanced | | | What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? | Just right | | | What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? | Fairly Nice | | | How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? | Just right | | | Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? | Most puzzles were worth the right amount | | | What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? | Just right | |
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Location: The Netherlands | achan1058 - 2013-12-16 2:34 AM
RALehrer - 2013-12-15 3:21 PM
I attempted the chaos renban only after the test...and found it to be easier than some puzzles worth 30-40 points. I know it can vary with individual strengths, but that's a hell of a lot of variation! I agree. The chaos renban took me 10 minutes, while the other 100 pointer, x is alive took me 20. There's a few others that I think are incorrectly valued too, but the chaos renban is probably the biggest sore thumb I saw.
Points distribution is mostly a very hard part of writing a test. I am lucky to have a small team of testers, who are all well experienced sudoku solvers. There is quite some variation between their timings, so I understand the responses here. Especially the Chaos Renban puzzle has a shortcut that makes it easier solvable; the 5's play a crucial role in all five renban groups. Noticing that makes the solving process a lot faster.
It is always worth looking to high pointers in a test, even if you are not among top solvers. It might be better to look at puzzles that you are good at, no matter how much points they are worth. |
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Location: The Netherlands | An LMI player - 2013-12-15 9:54 PM
This time unfriendly contest for players without printers.
These tests are always made to be printed. Puzzling is in general a paper and pencil activity (although I admit some of that is changing). So being without a printer will always make it a bit harder to solve. I don't exactly see what makes it unfriendly though. It might take a little bit more time writing in paint, but I don't see how that can be changed fairly. I for example aren't very skillful in online applets, so that would not give me any advantage if those were made. But I generally feel that some people get a distinct advantage of solving in an online applet as they employ a solving style that would be very impractical on paper.
I personally don't have a properly functioning printer right now. So I did it without a printer in paint. I thought it went pretty well. I would have probably done better with one as it's much easier to write and keep notes and write quickly on paper than in paint. But the grids were easily copy-pasted into paint two at a time because of the layout, so it saved some time in having to copy paste all grids separately. I could solve 2 puzzles and then put in the answer keys 2 at a time, saving me some time in having to switch windows a lot. I did last week's test in paint as well and I thought this one was much friendlier in having to solve in paint.
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The only complaint is that there wasn't online solving. It is unconvience for people without printer. |
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Location: Germany | | How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? | A bit skewed | | | What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? | Just right | | | What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? | Very nice | | | How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? | Just right | | | Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? | Many puzzles were worth too much or too little | | | What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? | Just right | |
A bit too much math types/sum restrictions.
Edited by Realshaggy 2013-12-16 4:23 PM
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Location: Poland | | How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? | Perfectly balanced | | | What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? | Too many hard puzzles | | | What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? | Very nice | | | How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? | Way too many puzzles (too little time) | | | Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? | Most puzzles were worth the right amount | | | What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? | Just right | |
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Location: Germany | | How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? | Fairly balanced | | | What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? | Just right | | | What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? | Very nice | | | How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? | Just right | | | Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? | Most puzzles were worth the right amount | | | What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? | Just right | |
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Location: India | | How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? | Perfectly balanced | | | What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? | Too many hard puzzles | | | What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? | Very nice | | | How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? | A bit too many puzzles | | | Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? | Most puzzles were worth the right amount | | | What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? | Just right | |
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Location: Serbia | | How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? | Perfectly balanced | | | What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? | Just right | | | What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? | Very nice | | | How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? | Just right | | | Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? | Most puzzles were worth the right amount | | | What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? | Just right | |
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Location: The Netherlands | | How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? | Fairly balanced | | | What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? | Just right | | | What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? | Very nice | | | How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? | Just right | | | Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? | Most puzzles were worth the right amount | | | What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? | Just right | |
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Location: India | Best of LMI sudoku tests is over. Password removed from booklet.
The bonus shown in score page is wrong (it shows 10 points per minute saved). Here are the correct numbers.
| Player | Claim | TotalScore | | janoslaw | 092:27 | 1298 | | TiiT | 098:09 | 1222.62 | | Ours brun | 102:41 | 1168.64 | | sinchai4547 | 113:04 | 1061.32 | | kwaka | 114:05 | 1051.86 | | deu | 114:46 | 1045.6 | | misko | 115:11 | 1041.82 | | Kota | 116:26 | 1030.63 |
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Location: The Netherlands | BoS is now over. Congratulations to Jan, Tiit and Bastien for incredible performances!
Jan has beaten my estimated winning time with 5 minutes; I expected the winning time to be close to 100 minutes, so I was happy to see Tiit doing exactly this on saturday afternoon. I was a little bit surprised that his time was beaten by 5 minutes by Jan. Well done!
I am happy to see a lot of participants again, and to notice that you all enjoyed it. Thanks for participation and feed back!
I will write something about the test, puzzle choice and few remarks about solving issues on particular puzzles in the next days.
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Location: France | | How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? | Fairly balanced | | | What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? | Just right | | | What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? | Very nice | | | How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? | Just right | | | Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? | Most puzzles were worth the right amount | | | What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? | Just right | |
I am a bit short in time to enter the details, but thanks for a very nice test Richard. I was also a bit surprised by the difficulty of some puzzles said to be hard but such a thing happens on about every test, including mine. I really don't think it is possible to make everyone agree on the point value of a puzzle. And anyway, in my case it was rather a pleasant surprise to see that I was able to solve the Number X in around five and a half minutes. ;)
Congrats to Jan, Tiit and the hungry opponents and thanks again for these much enjoyable puzzles. |
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