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LMI September Puzzle Test - EverGreens II
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Subject: Re: LMI September Puzzle Test - EverGreens II @ 2010-08-31 3:43 PM (#1435 - in reply to #1403) (#1435) Top




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In H2O, are diagonal connections allowed? And are Os allowed to touch Hs to which they have no connection?
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Subject: Re: LMI September Puzzle Test - EverGreens II @ 2010-08-31 3:55 PM (#1436 - in reply to #1435) (#1436) Top


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pwahs - 2010-08-31 3:43 PM

In H2O, are diagonal connections allowed?
NO, only horizontal / vertical connections allowed.


pwahs - 2010-08-31 3:43 PM
And are Os allowed to touch Hs to which they have no connection?
YES, Os can touch as many Hs.

Here is another example. Hope it makes it clear.


This example appeared as practice puzzle for NPC2007
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Subject: Re: LMI September Puzzle Test - EverGreens II @ 2010-08-31 8:01 PM (#1437 - in reply to #1431) (#1437) Top



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debmohanty - 2010-08-31 11:51 AM

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In ABC Connector, all cells need not be used?
Do I need to answer the question? I think the instruction and the example match perfectly. Same in Anglers.


Can a line cover 2x2 square?
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Subject: Re: LMI September Puzzle Test - EverGreens II @ 2010-08-31 8:33 PM (#1438 - in reply to #1437) (#1438) Top



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Can a line cover 2x2 square?
can a puzzle have unique solution when a line covers 2x2 square?
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Subject: Re: LMI September Puzzle Test - EverGreens II @ 2010-08-31 10:11 PM (#1439 - in reply to #1438) (#1439) Top



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debmohanty - 2010-08-31 8:33 PM

rajeshk
Can a line cover 2x2 square?
can a puzzle have unique solution when a line covers 2x2 square?


You are right. In fact the original puzzle where every square is used exactly once has this condition, thats why I asked this questions. Thanks for your quick reply.
bartunio
Subject: Re: LMI September Puzzle Test - EverGreens II @ 2010-09-01 2:27 AM (#1440 - in reply to #1403) (#1440) Top




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Hi, this might be a silly question, but where exactly can I find instruction booklet for the test? I think I have reviewed the whole Logic Masters India, including the Evergreens website and cannot see them... And a minor offtopic: is it possible to find pdf with your previous competitions?
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Subject: Re: LMI September Puzzle Test - EverGreens II @ 2010-09-01 8:40 AM (#1441 - in reply to #1440) (#1441) Top



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bartunio - 2010-09-01 2:27 AM

Hi, this might be a silly question, but where exactly can I find instruction booklet for the test? I think I have reviewed the whole Logic Masters India, including the Evergreens website and cannot see them... And a minor offtopic: is it possible to find pdf with your previous competitions?


When you go to EverGreen II website (http://logicmastersindia.com/M201009P/), on the right side of the page, Instruction Booklet is available. See image below.


For all previous competitions, you have to visit the respective pages. See this link for monthly tests and this link for mock tests.

Please post here if you still face problems.
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Subject: Re: LMI September Puzzle Test - EverGreens II @ 2010-09-02 3:36 AM (#1444 - in reply to #1403) (#1444) Top




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Great, thanks. This might have sounded a silly question as I look at it now, but this was all because I use a MSI laptop with tiny screen and thus the resolution is set in such a way that I sometimes do not see things in the edges of the screen unless I scroll it:-) Thanks again and sorry for molesting anyway.
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Subject: EverGreens II - Country is blank? @ 2010-09-03 12:29 PM (#1448 - in reply to #1403) (#1448) Top


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Filling in Country field must before you can take this test. This is done primarily because of IPC next week.


When you visit EverGreens page, the login space will be slightly different from how it looked earlier.



If you already have country updated, you can login after filling in username and password.

But if your country is blank (i.e. you have never updated the country field earlier), you have to fill in the country field before you can start the test. Otherwise, you will get error message.



To know if your country is blank OR filled, you can visit Settings. You can update the field there too.
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Subject: MASTERMIND @ 2010-09-03 2:30 PM (#1450 - in reply to #1403) (#1450) Top




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In MASTERMIND, can the solution have 0?
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Subject: RE: MASTERMIND @ 2010-09-03 5:59 PM (#1452 - in reply to #1450) (#1452) Top



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aldentea - 2010-09-03 2:30 PM

In MASTERMIND, can the solution have 0?

0s are not allowed in the solution.
Sorry for the incomplete instruction.
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Subject: RE: LMI September Puzzle Test - EverGreens II @ 2010-09-03 6:45 PM (#1453 - in reply to #1403) (#1453) Top



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Puzzle Booklet uploaded. There are 13 pages. The first page has points table and one puzzle. Each other page has 2 puzzles.
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Subject: EverGreens II - Partial Bonus @ 2010-09-03 7:12 PM (#1454 - in reply to #1403) (#1454) Top



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Based on the discussion during Broken Pieces, partial Bonus will be awarded in this test.
We'll use Ziti's formula in this test, as an experiment basis.

If all puzzles are not correct, a factor will be computed based on your score. Your time bonus will be (number of minutes saved * this factor * 8).

Factor = (Points earned - 4 * points missed) / (Total points)

In this is case, Total Points will be considered as 575.
'Points earned' will be computed with any group bonus etc.

See table below, for how much the factor will be based on the points (without group bonus)

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Subject: EverGreens II - Partial Bonus @ 2010-09-03 7:16 PM (#1455 - in reply to #1403) (#1455) Top


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Note :
  • Partial Bonus will not be available in IPC.
  • Based on the response we get in this test, we may continue / modify / drop the idea of Partial Bonus.
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    Subject: EverGreens II - Tie breaker rules @ 2010-09-03 7:22 PM (#1456 - in reply to #1403) (#1456) Top



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    Following rules will be applied in order to break ties, in case there are any.
  • Most points without any bonus
  • Earliest Timestamp for last correct submission


  • [Subject to change in other LMI tests]
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    Subject: Re: LMI September Puzzle Test - EverGreens II @ 2010-09-04 8:23 AM (#1457 - in reply to #1403) (#1457) Top


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    The test has started.
    Best of luck to all participants.
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    Subject: Re: LMI September Puzzle Test - EverGreens II @ 2010-09-04 3:22 PM (#1458 - in reply to #1403) (#1458) Top




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    In darts, is it possible to hit a number more than once?
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    Subject: Re: LMI September Puzzle Test - EverGreens II @ 2010-09-04 3:58 PM (#1459 - in reply to #1458) (#1459) Top



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    In Darts the same number cannot be hit more then once.
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    Subject: Re: LMI September Puzzle Test - EverGreens II @ 2010-09-04 5:57 PM (#1460 - in reply to #1403) (#1460) Top




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    Thank you.
    Gotroch
    Subject: RE: LMI September Puzzle Test - EverGreens II @ 2010-09-04 7:40 PM (#1462 - in reply to #1403) (#1462) Top




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    Question about time bonus.
    What if someone submit all puzzles ~10 mins before time limit with one error and later he realizes he made that error.
    So he will submit answers again (this time correct) 1min before time limit.
    With current partial bonus system it means that solver could lose points for that action.
    What points that solver will be awarded?
    Gotroch
    Subject: RE: LMI September Puzzle Test - EverGreens II @ 2010-09-04 7:43 PM (#1463 - in reply to #1403) (#1463) Top




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    Also If some competitor sends blank answers, he could reach better score then competitor who solves more puzzles but doesn't submit all answers.

    Edited by Gotroch 2010-09-04 7:44 PM
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    Subject: RE: LMI September Puzzle Test - EverGreens II @ 2010-09-04 7:52 PM (#1464 - in reply to #1462) (#1464) Top


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    Gotroch - 2010-09-04 7:40 PM

    Question about time bonus.
    What if someone submit all puzzles ~10 mins before time limit with one error and later he realizes he made that error.
    So he will submit answers again (this time correct) 1min before time limit.
    With current partial bonus system it means that solver could lose points for that action.
    What points that solver will be awarded?

    We'll just consider the final submission, and not intermediate submissions.
    It is not necessary that the player will lose points because of that action. There are several parameters which will limit the partial bonus.
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    Subject: RE: LMI September Puzzle Test - EverGreens II @ 2010-09-04 7:55 PM (#1465 - in reply to #1463) (#1465) Top


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    Gotroch - 2010-09-04 7:43 PM

    Also If some competitor sends blank answers, he could reach better score then competitor who solves more puzzles but doesn't submit all answers.

    This is not possible.
    See table in http://logicmastersindia.com/forum/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=120&s...
    It is not possible to get bonus if you have scored 460 or less.
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    Subject: RE: LMI September Puzzle Test - EverGreens II @ 2010-09-04 8:11 PM (#1467 - in reply to #1465) (#1467) Top




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    Gotroch - 2010-09-04 7:43 PM

    Also If some competitor sends blank answers, he could reach better score then competitor who solves more puzzles but doesn't submit all answers.

    This is not possible.
    See table in http://logicmastersindia.com/forum/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=120&s...
    It is not possible to get bonus if you have scored 460 or less.


    I didn't mean all answers blank, just few of them (1-3)
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    Subject: Re: LMI September Puzzle Test - EverGreens II @ 2010-09-04 8:15 PM (#1468 - in reply to #1403) (#1468) Top


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    still - the answer does not change.
    Partial bonus will be awarded only if someone has got 465 or more.
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