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Converse - 12th-15th Feb - Sudoku Mahabharat & ISC Qualifier
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RameshLMI
Subject: Re: Converse - 12th-15th Feb - Sudoku Mahabharat & ISC Qualifier @ 2016-02-13 3:23 PM (#20979 - in reply to #20869) (#20979) Top


SM 2020 (Converse and Odd Even) Author

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 How well did the variants represent the theme of the test ? variations represented the theme well
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Too many hard puzzles
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? X Sum Frame Sudoku
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount


Vishal
Subject: Re: Converse - 12th-15th Feb - Sudoku Mahabharat & ISC Qualifier @ 2016-02-13 5:14 PM (#20980 - in reply to #20869) (#20980) Top




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 How well did the variants represent the theme of the test ? representation could have been better
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Too many hard puzzles
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Fairly Nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? QuadMax 4Odd 4Even
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth too much or too little


TiiT
Subject: Re: Converse - 12th-15th Feb - Sudoku Mahabharat & ISC Qualifier @ 2016-02-13 6:29 PM (#20981 - in reply to #20869) (#20981) Top




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 How well did the variants represent the theme of the test ? variations represented the theme well
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Below Average
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? QuadMax 4Odd 4Even
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount


ghirsch
Subject: Re: Converse - 12th-15th Feb - Sudoku Mahabharat & ISC Qualifier @ 2016-02-13 10:05 PM (#20984 - in reply to #20869) (#20984) Top




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 How well did the variants represent the theme of the test ? variations represented the theme well
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? X Sum Frame Sudoku
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount


Thanks for another great test Rakesh and Harmeet. All of the puzzles I solved were very nice, but my favorites were QuadMax 2 and X Sum Frame 2 (I really liked the deductions for X in this one).
gaurav.kjain
Subject: Re: Converse - 12th-15th Feb - Sudoku Mahabharat & ISC Qualifier @ 2016-02-13 11:14 PM (#20985 - in reply to #20869) (#20985) Top


SM 2020 (Irregular and Outside) Author

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Really nice sudokus....Liked construction of all of them.
Hats off, Rakesh and Harmeet.
Kropki seems to be a no starter for me logically, Rakesh/Harmeet, please provide me THE logical starting point.

Technically for me 2015-16 SM is ended as, I will be co-authoring last round of SM along with Amit.
All the rounds were really great and I enjoyed them a lot. Thanks for the authors and organizers for all great SM rounds throughout the year.

rakesh_rai
Subject: Re: Converse - 12th-15th Feb - Sudoku Mahabharat & ISC Qualifier @ 2016-02-13 11:54 PM (#20986 - in reply to #20985) (#20986) Top



Mean Minis (2020) Author

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gaurav.kjain - 2016-02-13 11:14 PM

Kropki seems to be a no starter for me logically, Rakesh/Harmeet, please provide me THE logical starting point.
I guess you are referring to the 9x9.
(1) One starting point is R1C3/C4 -> one of them has to be 3. You can find out easily that the 3 must go in R1C4. You can then fill out all cells in row 1. R1C1 cannot be 5 (look at the long sequence in col 1) so it will be 1.
(2) R5C1 is even (count odd/even in box4). Using this, we can complete col 1, as there is only one place for the number 2.

After this, it should be simpler.
detuned
Subject: Re: Converse - 12th-15th Feb - Sudoku Mahabharat & ISC Qualifier @ 2016-02-14 12:20 AM (#20988 - in reply to #20869) (#20988) Top




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 How well did the variants represent the theme of the test ? representation could have been better
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Fairly Nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Classic Sudoku
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount


kishy72
Subject: Re: Converse - 12th-15th Feb - Sudoku Mahabharat & ISC Qualifier @ 2016-02-14 1:16 AM (#20989 - in reply to #20869) (#20989) Top


SM 2020 (Math) Author

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 How well did the variants represent the theme of the test ? representation could have been better
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Too many hard puzzles
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Fairly Nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? QuadMax 4Odd 4Even
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount


An LMI player
Subject: Re: Converse - 12th-15th Feb - Sudoku Mahabharat & ISC Qualifier @ 2016-02-14 1:51 AM (#20990 - in reply to #20869) (#20990) Top


 How well did the variants represent the theme of the test ? variations represented the theme well
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? X Sum Frame Sudoku
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Many puzzles were worth too much or too little


forcolin
Subject: Re: Converse - 12th-15th Feb - Sudoku Mahabharat & ISC Qualifier @ 2016-02-14 2:05 AM (#20991 - in reply to #20869) (#20991) Top





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The puzzles were all right but the point distribution was rather poor. IMHO for the big kropki 16 points were faaaaaar too many, while the big average with only 13 points was underrated.
gaurav.kjain
Subject: Re: Converse - 12th-15th Feb - Sudoku Mahabharat & ISC Qualifier @ 2016-02-14 11:44 AM (#20992 - in reply to #20986) (#20992) Top


SM 2020 (Irregular and Outside) Author

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Location: India
rakesh_rai - 2016-02-13 11:54 PM

gaurav.kjain - 2016-02-13 11:14 PM

Kropki seems to be a no starter for me logically, Rakesh/Harmeet, please provide me THE logical starting point.
I guess you are referring to the 9x9.
(1) One starting point is R1C3/C4 -> one of them has to be 3. You can find out easily that the 3 must go in R1C4. You can then fill out all cells in row 1. R1C1 cannot be 5 (look at the long sequence in col 1) so it will be 1.
(2) R5C1 is even (count odd/even in box4). Using this, we can complete col 1, as there is only one place for the number 2.

After this, it should be simpler.



Thanks a lot Rakesh, I really forgot to use Even/Odd marking , it makes it so easy which was looking a non starter to me , I remember Prasanna also mentioned it earlier.
neerajmehrotra
Subject: Re: Converse - 12th-15th Feb - Sudoku Mahabharat & ISC Qualifier @ 2016-02-14 1:21 PM (#20993 - in reply to #20869) (#20993) Top




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Location: India
 How well did the variants represent the theme of the test ? variations represented the theme well
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Kropki Sudoku
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount


Hotel
Subject: Re: Converse - 12th-15th Feb - Sudoku Mahabharat & ISC Qualifier @ 2016-02-14 2:28 PM (#20994 - in reply to #20869) (#20994) Top




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 How well did the variants represent the theme of the test ? representation could have been better
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Kropki Sudoku
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount


peluri
Subject: Re: Converse - 12th-15th Feb - Sudoku Mahabharat & ISC Qualifier @ 2016-02-14 4:39 PM (#20995 - in reply to #20869) (#20995) Top




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 How well did the variants represent the theme of the test ? variations represented the theme well
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? X Sum Frame Sudoku
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount


pranavmanu
Subject: Re: Converse - 12th-15th Feb - Sudoku Mahabharat & ISC Qualifier @ 2016-02-14 9:48 PM (#20996 - in reply to #20869) (#20996) Top




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 How well did the variants represent the theme of the test ? were not represented well
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Too many medium difficult puzzles
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? QuadMax 4Odd 4Even
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount


neerajmehrotra
Subject: Re: Converse - 12th-15th Feb - Sudoku Mahabharat & ISC Qualifier @ 2016-02-14 10:23 PM (#20997 - in reply to #20869) (#20997) Top




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Really enjoyed the puzzles.... Thanks a ton Rakesh & Harmeet for such nice puzzles...
An LMI player
Subject: Re: Converse - 12th-15th Feb - Sudoku Mahabharat & ISC Qualifier @ 2016-02-15 1:18 AM (#20999 - in reply to #20869) (#20999) Top


 How well did the variants represent the theme of the test ? variations represented the theme well
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Too many medium difficult puzzles
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Classic Sudoku
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount


Ziti
Subject: Re: Converse - 12th-15th Feb - Sudoku Mahabharat & ISC Qualifier @ 2016-02-15 2:31 PM (#21002 - in reply to #20869) (#21002) Top




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 How well did the variants represent the theme of the test ? variations represented the theme well
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Too many easy puzzles
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Fairly Nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? X Sum Frame Sudoku
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount


tamz29
Subject: Re: Converse - 12th-15th Feb - Sudoku Mahabharat & ISC Qualifier @ 2016-02-15 10:38 PM (#21003 - in reply to #20869) (#21003) Top




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The 6x6 Average was a bit (a lot) guess-y
Ciao Emmanuel
Subject: Re: Converse - 12th-15th Feb - Sudoku Mahabharat & ISC Qualifier @ 2016-02-16 4:32 AM (#21005 - in reply to #20869) (#21005) Top




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 How well did the variants represent the theme of the test ? variations represented the theme well
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Too many medium difficult puzzles
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? QuadMax 4Odd 4Even


An LMI player
Subject: Re: Converse - 12th-15th Feb - Sudoku Mahabharat & ISC Qualifier @ 2016-02-16 7:01 AM (#21006 - in reply to #20869) (#21006) Top


 How well did the variants represent the theme of the test ? variations represented the theme well
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Too many hard puzzles
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? X Sum Frame Sudoku
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Many puzzles were worth too much or too little


devarajand
Subject: Re: Converse - 12th-15th Feb - Sudoku Mahabharat & ISC Qualifier @ 2016-02-16 8:06 AM (#21007 - in reply to #20869) (#21007) Top




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Pl extend the time till to night

Edited by devarajand 2016-02-16 8:06 AM
lenson
Subject: Re: Converse - 12th-15th Feb - Sudoku Mahabharat & ISC Qualifier @ 2016-02-16 9:15 AM (#21008 - in reply to #21007) (#21008) Top





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devarajand - 2016-02-16 8:06 AM
Pl extend the time till to night


I would have liked that too. But the password has already been posted. So that does not look like an option now.

Edited by lenson 2016-02-16 9:15 AM
debmohanty
Subject: Re: Converse - 12th-15th Feb - Sudoku Mahabharat & ISC Qualifier @ 2016-02-16 9:18 AM (#21009 - in reply to #21008) (#21009) Top



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lenson - 2016-02-16 9:15 AM

devarajand - 2016-02-16 8:06 AM
Pl extend the time till to night


I would have liked that too. But the password has already been posted. So that does not look like an option now.
That is right. We would have extended the time only if we are requested before it is over.
rakesh_rai
Subject: Re: Converse - 12th-15th Feb - Sudoku Mahabharat & ISC Qualifier @ 2016-02-16 1:53 PM (#21010 - in reply to #21009) (#21010) Top



Mean Minis (2020) Author

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Congratulations to jzverina, deu and jaku111 for securing the Top 3 positions. In fact, 4th to 10th positions were very close, with only 6 points separating them. Thanks to everyone who provided a feedback on the test. Glad to see the two relatively newer variations - X Sum Frame and QuadMax 4Odd 4Even - getting the bulk of the votes. Congratulations to Rohan, PRasanna, SuvaRna and ShaheeR for taking the top places for India. Also good performances from Amit, ManjiRi, KishoRe and NeeRaj. Thanks to Rishi for test solving this set.

Overall 315 users, and about 10% of participants (33) completed all 18. Average 6x6 had a lot of erroneous submissions (1 out of 3 wrong) as participants tended to guess since it was a 6x6. However, there is a neat logical path to solve it. Kropki 9x9 was the least attempted with only 93 correct submissions. However, I had expected QuadMax 9x9 or Average 9x9 would be the one with least submissions as the come last in the PB.

We have puzzle wise submission data for 6 of the top 10. Based on their timings, Classics should have had 22 points (we had 22), Consecutive should have 15 points (we had 13), Kropki should have had 18 points (we had 19), X sum frame should have had 13 points (we had 12), QuadMax 4Odd 4Even should have had 15 points (we had 18) and Average should have 17 points (we had 16). So, except for QuadMax 4Odd 4Even, the differences were less than 3.

HaRmeet: You may also share your impressions from this test.
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