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Shading & Loops - 17th to 20th Feb 2017 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier
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rakesh_rai
Subject: Re: Shading & Loops - 17th to 20th Feb 2017 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2017-02-17 9:34 PM (#22534 - in reply to #22532) (#22534) Top



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rajeshk - 2017-02-17 6:34 PM

I have doubt for Lakes Loop. It says that "draw a single closed loop that does not touch or cross itself". Here what does NOT touching mean here?


"NOT touching" means not touching at a point. If this restriction is not there,then the loop can possibly touch at a point in a cell.
rajeshk
Subject: Re: Shading & Loops - 17th to 20th Feb 2017 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2017-02-18 12:09 AM (#22535 - in reply to #22494) (#22535) Top



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I am not able to read Rakesh's message as the contest is on :)
bob
Subject: Re: Shading & Loops - 17th to 20th Feb 2017 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2017-02-18 8:10 AM (#22536 - in reply to #22494) (#22536) Top




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 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Almost Simple Loop
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Mostly perfect answer keys
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


Fun test, as are all of the Puzzle Ramayan series. It is satisfying to finish more puzzles within the time limit. I also enjoy the intructionless puzzles (none on this set). Looking forward to the next one.
LoHoX
Subject: Re: Shading & Loops - 17th to 20th Feb 2017 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2017-02-18 3:28 PM (#22537 - in reply to #22494) (#22537) Top




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 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Fairly Nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Bosnian Road
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Perfect answer keys
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


mohanprashanth
Subject: Re: Shading & Loops - 17th to 20th Feb 2017 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2017-02-18 4:52 PM (#22538 - in reply to #22494) (#22538) Top




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In Heyawacky, does "the white area cannot span across 2 consecutive borders (thick lines)" mean a horizontal or vertical segment of white cells cannot be in more than 2 regions?
rakesh_rai
Subject: Re: Shading & Loops - 17th to 20th Feb 2017 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2017-02-18 4:55 PM (#22539 - in reply to #22538) (#22539) Top



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mohanprashanth - 2017-02-18 4:52 PM

In Heyawacky, does "the white area cannot span across 2 consecutive borders (thick lines)" mean a horizontal or vertical segment of white cells cannot be in more than 2 regions?
That is correct.
mohanprashanth
Subject: Re: Shading & Loops - 17th to 20th Feb 2017 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2017-02-18 5:30 PM (#22541 - in reply to #22494) (#22541) Top




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Thank you!
rob
Subject: Re: Shading & Loops - 17th to 20th Feb 2017 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2017-02-18 9:31 PM (#22543 - in reply to #22494) (#22543) Top


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That was fun, thanks Walker! There was no time to appreciate the solving paths unfortunately, I'll have to go through the set again. But the puzzles certainly all looked pretty.

Apart from the first one, Almost Simple Loop felt more like Outside Yajilin. I thought Bosnian Snake was a bit of an odd choice as a shading puzzle, particularly with Bosnian Road in the second part. Speaking of Bosnian Road, it would have been nice to avoid the differing notions of loop length for the answer code.

Assuming Lake Loop is original (I don't remember seeing it), that one might have been a fun instructionless puzzle, too, though I guess it not being a variant of another of the loop puzzles is an argument against.
Puzlifouk
Subject: Re: Shading & Loops - 17th to 20th Feb 2017 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2017-02-19 2:37 AM (#22544 - in reply to #22494) (#22544) Top




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 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Heyawake
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Answer keys could have been better
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Many puzzles were worth too much or too little
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


swaroop2011
Subject: Re: Shading & Loops - 17th to 20th Feb 2017 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2017-02-19 8:35 AM (#22545 - in reply to #22494) (#22545) Top



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 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Yin Yang
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Perfect answer keys
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


Excellent set of puzzles.
Exactly suitable for PR environment. Thanks to author and LMI for conducting this test.

Apart from 10min waste of time at start due to printer issue, everthing else went smooth. I really enjoyed the test. I am happy I completed the set, after missing the completion of 1st PR round closely.

YinYang 3 was the one which took most of my time. Rest all were smooth solve.
Heyawake was nice logic. Fortunately i created some Heyawake with similar logic so found it quickly.
forcolin
Subject: Re: Shading & Loops - 17th to 20th Feb 2017 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2017-02-19 5:35 PM (#22547 - in reply to #22494) (#22547) Top





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 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Lakes Loop
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Perfect answer keys
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


tamz29
Subject: Re: Shading & Loops - 17th to 20th Feb 2017 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2017-02-19 6:38 PM (#22548 - in reply to #22494) (#22548) Top




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Thanks for the sprint test :)
I think Lakes Loop is the same as Nurikabe Loop (Akil Oyunlari Magazine Competition), no?
Most of these were intuitive types - so I think guessing is probably more efficient than finding logical paths.
An LMI player
Subject: Re: Shading & Loops - 17th to 20th Feb 2017 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2017-02-19 9:10 PM (#22549 - in reply to #22494) (#22549) Top


 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Too many easy puzzles
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Fairly Nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Lakes
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Answer keys could have been better
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


Kithyane
Subject: Re: Shading & Loops - 17th to 20th Feb 2017 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2017-02-19 9:49 PM (#22550 - in reply to #22494) (#22550) Top




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 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Heyawake
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Answer keys could have been better
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


ghirsch
Subject: Re: Shading & Loops - 17th to 20th Feb 2017 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2017-02-19 10:19 PM (#22551 - in reply to #22494) (#22551) Top




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 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Heyawake
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Perfect answer keys
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


Thanks for the fun puzzles Walker! I spent way too long on Heyawake 3, but once I found the break-in I was very impressed, and it ended up being the most memorable one from the test.
An LMI player
Subject: Re: Shading & Loops - 17th to 20th Feb 2017 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2017-02-20 2:29 AM (#22552 - in reply to #22494) (#22552) Top


 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Almost Simple Loop
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Answer keys could have been better
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


An LMI player
Subject: Re: Shading & Loops - 17th to 20th Feb 2017 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2017-02-20 3:45 AM (#22553 - in reply to #22494) (#22553) Top


 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Bosnian Road
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Answer keys could have been better
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


An LMI player
Subject: Re: Shading & Loops - 17th to 20th Feb 2017 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2017-02-20 4:24 AM (#22554 - in reply to #22494) (#22554) Top


 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Fairly Nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Heyawake
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Answer keys could have been better
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


An LMI player
Subject: Re: Shading & Loops - 17th to 20th Feb 2017 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2017-02-20 10:56 AM (#22555 - in reply to #22494) (#22555) Top


 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Lakes Loop
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Mostly perfect answer keys
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


Joo M.Y
Subject: Re: Shading & Loops - 17th to 20th Feb 2017 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2017-02-20 11:14 AM (#22556 - in reply to #22494) (#22556) Top




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 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Lakes
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Mostly perfect answer keys
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


An LMI player
Subject: Re: Shading & Loops - 17th to 20th Feb 2017 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2017-02-20 6:20 PM (#22557 - in reply to #22494) (#22557) Top


 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Lakes Loop
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Mostly perfect answer keys
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


greenhorn
Subject: Re: Shading & Loops - 17th to 20th Feb 2017 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2017-02-20 6:22 PM (#22558 - in reply to #22494) (#22558) Top


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 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Heyawake
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Perfect answer keys
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


Great test, thank you Walker!
The biggest Heyawacky is the best one I've ever seen :)

Anyway, I should have done better, but my printer has decided to print only 4 out of 8 pages :(
An LMI player
Subject: Re: Shading & Loops - 17th to 20th Feb 2017 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2017-02-21 3:53 AM (#22559 - in reply to #22494) (#22559) Top


 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Bosnian Snake
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Answer keys could have been better
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


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Subject: Re: Shading & Loops - 17th to 20th Feb 2017 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2017-02-21 8:32 PM (#22561 - in reply to #22494) (#22561) Top


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Thanks to Walker for authoring this test. Also thanks to Bram for test solving.

Congratulations to Endo, Rob and Hideaki for finishing the test with a combined time of less than 90 minutes. Endo's score is the best ever in any SM or PR episode so far.

Congratulations to Rohan, Swaroop, Rajesh, Ashish and Kishore for taking the top India positions.

Heyawake 3 was attempted by the least number of participants, but it was the most accurate submission too (82/83 correct answers). It had a nice solving path/trick. Those who have not attempted it yet should try it at leisure.
An LMI player
Subject: Re: Shading & Loops - 17th to 20th Feb 2017 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2017-02-22 9:43 PM (#22568 - in reply to #22494) (#22568) Top


 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Heyawake
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Mostly perfect answer keys
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


There was a slight issue with the differing entry style for the solutions of the Bosnian road compared to the other loop puzzles. I spotted it beforehand but it could have been easier if they all had length of line or number of squares, rather than a mixture.
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