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LMI November Puzzle Test - FLIP
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debmohanty
Subject: Re: LMI November Puzzle Test - FLIP @ 2010-11-25 9:43 AM (#2666 - in reply to #2664) (#2666) Top



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Adding a "Done" or "Claim Bonus" button (the equivalent of "Raising hand" in an offline event) should be fairly easy to implement from technical point of view. The "Done" button should be enabled after all puzzle answers are filled. Once the player clicks on "Done", the submission button should be disabled. The time bonus, if any, will be computed from when the player clicked on "Done".

Just like you, I'm not entirely sure, if we should have this feature. It probably adds one more overhead for players. As such players forget to click on Submit and have suggested to remove the Submit button.

Adding a "Done" button will probably complicate it further, although I believe it is something good to have.
motris
Subject: RE: LMI November Puzzle Test - FLIP @ 2010-11-25 9:59 AM (#2667 - in reply to #2665) (#2667) Top




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debmohanty - 2010-11-25 9:35 AM

Authors and organizers should be allowed to judge what is an "incorrect submission", and what is not. This has to be a manual check. Given that only the top solvers are expected to get bonus, it will be fair to assume that they won't make "random guesses" just to get time bonus. So it really might boil down to differentiating between "incorrect submissions" vs "no submissions"



This is a very good point. When watching submissions come in for Decathlon I remember one solver in the top ranks had a typo in a skyscrapers puzzle and finished with a fair bit of time but only 29 correct. He eventually corrected the mistake losing about 2-3 minutes to get to 30 correct (which had, due to the time bonus problem, a net neutral effect on his score unfortunately), but it would be obvious if he had not made the fix that this was an incorrect submission. It wouldn't necessarily get points, but it wouldn't be thrown out in a "this solver did not try the puzzle" sense if time bonus required an incorrect submission. The challenge then is having a good answer submission that can tell you if this is enough progress. A full row or two rows on a sudoku is certainly a good condition to attempt this test. The number of tents on a diagonal in a tents puzzle may not be. But it would be good to try this alternative going forward.

Edited by motris 2010-11-25 10:00 AM
debmohanty
Subject: RE: LMI November Puzzle Test - FLIP @ 2010-11-25 10:21 AM (#2668 - in reply to #2465) (#2668) Top



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I agree having a good answer key is critical for this aspect.
But even otherwise having a non-guessable and non-error-prone answer key is still required for all puzzles tests, irrespective of whether it is used for 'partial bonus' system or not.
davmillar
Subject: RE: LMI November Puzzle Test - FLIP @ 2010-11-26 11:24 AM (#2676 - in reply to #2465) (#2676) Top





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FLIP Special Booklet contains the instruction booklet and puzzle booklet from FLIP along with a bunch of extra content.
Author notes and comments.Bonus unused puzzles.
Test facts and figures.Brand new bonus puzzles.
Neat purple design.Full answer key.
Thank you all once more for giving me the opportunity to host a puzzle test and for participating!
Grab the special booklet now!

Click here for SPECIAL BOOKLET!

Edited by davmillar 2010-11-26 11:27 AM
debmohanty
Subject: RE: LMI November Puzzle Test - FLIP @ 2010-11-26 11:36 AM (#2677 - in reply to #2676) (#2677) Top



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davmillar - 2010-11-26 11:24 AM


Click here for SPECIAL BOOKLET!

David, Thanks for the Special Booklet.
I'm yet to solve any of the extra puzzles, but I love your comments and notes.
Appreciate your efforts!

Deb
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