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Location: India | @ GOtroch
I had a quick question on Outside Killer. Will the consectuive cells be marked in the puzzle or we have to find out which are the cells?? and do the consecutive numbers have to be in one single stretch or it can be different cells. For example if the outside number is 10 then can we have the grid as 1,2,5,3,4 where 1 and 2 are consecutive and so are 3 and 4. These four numbers add to 10 but are separated by a 5 in between. So is this scenario allowed or all the consecutive numbers have to be together??
On the no operations mathdoku, is there any example we can look at? Maybe some variation on Fed??
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Location: Czech Republic | purifire - 2010-03-18 12:56 PM
@ GOtroch
I had a quick question on Outside Killer. Will the consectuive cells be marked in the puzzle or we have to find out which are the cells?? and do the consecutive numbers have to be in one single stretch or it can be different cells. For example if the outside number is 10 then can we have the grid as 1,2,5,3,4 where 1 and 2 are consecutive and so are 3 and 4. These four numbers add to 10 but are separated by a 5 in between. So is this scenario allowed or all the consecutive numbers have to be together??
On the no operations mathdoku, is there any example we can look at? Maybe some variation on Fed??
Rishi
Sorry, there should be neighboring cells
5 Outside Killer
Numbers outside the rows/columns indicates that there is at least one couple of NEIGBORING cells in that row/column which sum is equal to this number
So, for example, if there is number 16 outside one row, then there have to be digits 7 and 9 as neighbors in that row
Yes, there is No Operations Mathdoku on the FED site created by oddest http://www.fed-sudoku.eu/sudokuplay/0177.swf
Also I think there are some examples on Snyder's blog http://www.stanford.edu/~tsnyder/kenken.htm
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Location: India | Thanks Gotroch... One last question... Can there be more than one instance of such sums...
For example 10 is outisde... I can have 4 and 6 as one adjoining pair and also 3 & 7 again in the same row? |
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Location: India | i think it is clear in the instruction " at least one couple of consecutive cells in that row/column which sum is equal to this number"
so you can 4&6 as one adjoining pair, and also 3&7 as another in the same row/column |
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Location: India | But will these single/multiple "killer cells" be marked?? that is my question :D |
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Location: Czech Republic | purifire - 2010-03-18 5:20 PM
But will these single/multiple "killer cells" be marked?? that is my question :D
No, cells will not be marked.
Because If I mark all these cells, then puzzle becomes standard killer sudoku. :) |
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Location: India | Gotroch..Thanks for clarifying... but then all sorts of different questions are coming ot my head...lol |
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Location: India | lolz you better get some sleep before the competition.... your head sure seems to be spinning at the moment :P :D |
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Location: India | No Time to sleep buddy... :D
Office ....practice.... preparation for mock 19 ..... married life (not necessarily in the same order ) hell... 24 hrs is too less in a day...lol |
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Location: France | purifire - 2010-03-19 2:02 PM
No Time to sleep buddy... :D
Office ....practice.... preparation for mock 19 ..... married life (not necessarily in the same order ) hell... 24 hrs is too less in a day...lol
Could also you guard my two boys ( two little angels;) ...) this weekend so that I can make the tournament quietly ???? :laugh: |
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Location: India | valsudo - 2010-03-19 4:17 PM
purifire - 2010-03-19 2:02 PM
No Time to sleep buddy... :D
Office ....practice.... preparation for mock 19 ..... married life (not necessarily in the same order ) hell... 24 hrs is too less in a day...lol
Could also you guard my two boys ( two little angels; ) ... ) this weekend so that I can make the tournament quietly ???? :laugh:
Send them over!!!! The more the merrier :D |
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Location: India | could we have some practice puzzles to solve online? |
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Location: Czech Republic | We have finished Instruction Booklet for Mock Test 17 and sent to Deb.
Booklet file is also attached in this post.
Edited by Gotroch 2010-03-19 8:18 PM
Attachments
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 SudokuMockTest17IB.pdf (54KB - 6 downloads)
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Location: India | Renamed the attached file.
It is also uploaded at mock17 page |
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Location: India | @ Gotroch
Pan Digital: Apply standard sudoku rules for the digits 1 to 9. For each group of shaded areas use this
rule: First two rows of add up to the number formed on the third row. In these areas
numbers can be repeated.
What does the last line mean..............In these areas
numbers can be repeated.
Since if the numbers are repeated then the standard sudoku rules do not apply............please clarify
Edited by neerajmehrotra 2010-03-19 11:18 PM
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Location: Czech Republic | They can't be repeated in the booklet example, as the shaded 3x3 areas in example perfetcly cover standard sudoku 3x3 boxes.
In competetive puzzle, placement of these areas will be different so it will allow repeating of digits. |
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Location: India | Oh OK..thanx |
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Location: India | Outside Killer in the IB........Is the solution unique
I am getting two solutions for the puzzle in the IB.....R5C2 can be both 4 and 5 with R6C2 and similarly R5C7 can be both 4 and 5 with R6C7............can somebody throw some light on this |
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Location: Czech Republic | neerajmehrotra - 2010-03-20 12:50 AM
Outside Killer in the IB........Is the solution unique
I am getting two solutions for the puzzle in the IB.....R5C2 can be both 4 and 5 with R6C2 and similarly R5C7 can be both 4 and 5 with R6C7............can somebody throw some light on this
I have checked the example and it is OK, so you probably made some mistake somewhere.
Check attached solution:
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Location: India | thanx a lot.............yep i was committing a mistake...........thanx again |
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Location: India | The Outside Killer in the IB has a unique solution.
I am pasting the solution here so that you can verify where you made a mistake.
The clue with the 14 on the left was simply awesome :)
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Location: India | Too late in solving and posting the solution :) |
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Location: India | stiill many thanx..................I too was able to solve it...........was doing a silly mistake AS USUAL |
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Location: United States | Hello,
I am confused with regards to the Relay in section 1 of the Instruction booklet. I solved the first puzzle, but then none of the 3x3 blocks fit in the second puzzle. Can you please clarify what it is I am supposed to do exactly? Thanks! A cursory examination of submitting a row from puzzle 3 into 4 also shows that none are possible, even before I solve. Confused... |
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Location: Czech Republic | jwilsonian - 2010-03-20 3:42 AM
Hello,
I am confused with regards to the Relay in section 1 of the Instruction booklet. I solved the first puzzle, but then none of the 3x3 blocks fit in the second puzzle. Can you please clarify what it is I am supposed to do exactly? Thanks! A cursory examination of submitting a row from puzzle 3 into 4 also shows that none are possible, even before I solve. Confused...
You can change position of the transfered element. So for example You can transfer top left corner 3x3 block from one puzzle to bottom right corner (or any of possible nine positions) of second puzzle
Edited by Gotroch 2010-03-20 3:58 AM
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