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Mean Minis (2020) Author
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Location: India | David McNeill - 2011-05-10 6:28 PM
The Persistence of Memory solution puzzled me and I think the rules need to be clarified. I assumed that the orientation of the shape did not matter and that, therefore, all 4 shapes were identical. Under this interpretation, the given solution does not satisfy the rule that each shape should have snake parts with the same appearance. There is at least one valid solution using my "false" interpretation. Here, 2x1 block is different from 1x2 block. |
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Location: India | Apart from 2X1 blocks being different from 1X2 blocks, the path of the snake also must be exactly same (rotation not allowed)
If some 1X1 blocks were given :
| For example, this is a valid. | | This is NOT valid |
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Location: Turkey | The reason I created the example with 1x2 blocks and 2x1 blocks was the hope that them being different would be noticed. Guess not. If two blocks have exactly the same shape (no rotation, no nothing), they have the same appearance regarding snake parts.
Ambigram: I do not expect anyone to actually solve the puzzle using that fancy font. :) However, the rule "The solution, if written in the above notation, must look the same when the page is turned upside down." helps. |
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Location: India | hey in the Deformable Kropki i think there are 2 solutions.
the 3's and 5's are interchangeable at R4C1 R4C2 AND R5C1 R5C2. |
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Location: India | swaroop2011 - 2011-05-10 8:47 PM
hey in the Deformable Kropki i think there are 2 solutions.
the 3's and 5's are interchangeable at R4C1 R4C2 AND R5C1 R5C2. R3C1 is 2 and R4C1 will be 3. That is not valid since there is no dot between R3C1 and R4C1. |
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Location: India | ok
it means that reverse rule also applies in Deformable Kropki.
Edited by swaroop2011 2011-05-10 9:24 PM
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Location: India | swaroop2011 - 2011-05-10 9:13 PM
ok
it means that reverse rule also applies. That is so obvious from the rules. |
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PR 2020 (Shading and Loops) Author
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Location: India | In Coral rotator ,
does whil rotating the page upside down makes 2 and interchangeable.
And in Symmetric Loop
in the first regiion that is in column 1 and 2.
the loop is U shape but at R3 it is Z shape BUt the rule says it is symmetric how? |
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Triplets & Triangles Author
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Location: United Kingdom | Thanks for clarification. I hope my mistakes will not be made by any competitors in the real thing. |
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Mean Minis (2020) Author
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Location: India | swaroop2011 - 2011-05-10 9:25 PM
In Coral rotator , does whil rotating the page upside down makes 2 and interchangeable. Yes 2 becomes 3 on page turned upside down, and vice-versa
And in Symmetric Loop
in the first regiion that is in column 1 and 2.
the loop is U shape but at R3 it is Z shape BUt the rule says it is symmetric how? Just look at the portion of the loop inside the marked areas. It should be symmetric, i.e., if you rotate the marked area by 180 degrees, you still get the same loop portion inside the area. |
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Location: India | rakesh_rai - 2011-05-10 10:11 PM
swaroop2011 - 2011-05-10 9:25 PM
In Coral rotator , does whil rotating the page upside down makes 2 and interchangeable. Yes 2 becomes 3 on page turned upside down, and vice-versa
Also, 4 becomes 7 and vice versa. Same with 6 and 9.
Remaining digits 0 1 5 8 don't change when turned upside down. |
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Location: India | In Superimposed Loop, can both the grids contain a black cell in the same position? |
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Location: Turkey | Indeed. Just their superimposed form is given, the two grids are actually independent. They do not put any constraints on each other. |
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Location: Turkey | Small clarification: Sorry for making the diagram borders bold on the Symmetric Loop example, it led to some confusion with the actual regions. Contest puzzles do not have them bolded. |
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Location: India | Puzzle Booklet uploaded. It has 11 pages, each page has puzzles (no cover page)
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Location: India | Starting this test, we are making one change
If somebody doesn't want to include this test's results in LMI Ratings, they must unselect the checkbox.
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Odd Even & Twisted Classics (SM 16/17) Author
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Location: India | Administrator - 2011-05-13 9:44 PM
Starting this test, we are making one change
If somebody doesn't want to include this test's results in LMI Ratings, they must unselect the checkbox.
After clicking on "Start", the checkbox will be invisible.
To add to what the Admin said, if a player does not uncheck the box then irrespective of whether they submit the answers or not, their scores will be taken into consideration for the ranking and that can affect their standings too.
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Location: United States | Thanks for a very fun test that went by too fast (I guess 101 is a rotationally symmetric number of minutes, but I think we'll all comment that we would have loved more time to be MAY-nipulated). Still, I worked a little past the test to finish everything up and enjoyed it all. |
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Location: Turkey | I'm really glad if it was enjoyable. About the time limit, it was adjusted from the times of the test-solvers (many thanks to them). Competitively solving must be more stressful though. I also have to say that some of the harder ones are difficult to start, then goes smoother. This may cause loss of time as well.
Anyway, thanks for the nice feedback!
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Mean Minis (2020) Author
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Location: India | Very nice puzzles. Among the ones I could solve, I liked deformable kropki (bottom) very much - Kropki can indeed be fun with hidden black dots, although it took me quite a while to get the right idea.
Edited by rakesh_rai 2011-05-14 6:26 PM
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Location: Canada | I don't know that 1001 minutes would have saved me today. Fortunately I have a rather large set of enjoyable looking puzzles to dive into tomorrow. Thanks Murat. |
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Location: United Kingdom | standupcanada - 2011-05-15 12:17 AM
I don't know that 1001 minutes would have saved me today. Fortunately I have a rather large set of enjoyable looking puzzles to dive into tomorrow. Thanks Murat.
Similar sentiment from myself as well I'm afraid. Too many silly mistakes, including counting the bottom line on one of the corral instead of the one above it. STUPID me!
Thankyou for a great set of puzzles, sorry I couldn't do them justice. |
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Location: Turkey | @standupcanada and puzzlemad: I'm sorry things didn't turn out as you had hoped. I should be the one thanking. Thanks for participating! |
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Location: United States | Wow, that test really played to my strengths. Spiral galaxies, all kinds of path puzzles, grid jumping... just the Kropki and Skyscrapers that threw me a bit. Great fun! |
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Location: Austria | Thanks for the test. Very nice puzzles.
I have solved the bottom puzzle of "First Seen Corral" correctly but entered the wrong solution code. If you look at my answer you will surely see what I did wrong and that my answer key fits to the correct solution of the puzzle. Actually I can give a good reason why my (wrong) way of entering the solution is actually the correct one. :-)
As I recall from earlier events, full points were awarded when entry mistakes happened and it was obvious that this wrong solution code fitted to the correct solution (e.g. entering the wrong row in a sudoku). I kindly request you to do so for my "First Seen Corral". If you cannot see my point or doubt that I have actually solved the puzzle, please write me a PM.
Have fun,
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