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6th WSC & 20th WPC
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purifire
Subject: RE: 6th WSC & 20th WPC @ 2011-10-29 10:33 PM (#5837 - in reply to #5835) (#5837) Top



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Round1 of and 2 do not give a feel of a Sudoku event. Finding out right or wrong sudoku is not the way I would prefer to start a logical puzzle event. Second round reminds me of small jigsaw puzzles I did as a kid where tiles had to be moved 1 place at a time. The other rounds are very interesting and I think there has to be a change in the instructions for the triangle sums sudokus and the word diagonal has to be removed. It has to be only "sum of adjacent cells"

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Fred76
Subject: RE: 6th WSC & 20th WPC @ 2011-10-30 1:44 AM (#5838 - in reply to #5837) (#5838) Top



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purifire - 2011-10-29 10:33 PM

Round1 of and 2 do not give a feel of a Sudoku event. Finding out right or wrong sudoku is not the way I would prefer to start a logical puzzle event. Second round reminds me of small jigsaw puzzles I did as a kid where tiles had to be moved 1 place at a time. The other rounds are very interesting and I think there has to be a change in the instructions for the triangle sums sudokus and the word diagonal has to be removed. It has to be only "sum of adjacent cells"

Rishi


It took me a while to understand the rule of triangle sums, especially this "diagonally touching neighbours", because we talk about cells that are orthogonally adjacent to the first cell, but diagonally touching themselves. Imagine that you have ..352.. in a row (first row of the example), then, if you remove this "diagonally touching", cell containing the 5 should be grey (because 3+2=5, and both are neighbouring the 5). But it is not the case, because 2 and 3 are not diagonally touching.

Once you understand the rule, I think it's a nice variant !

Fred
purifire
Subject: RE: 6th WSC & 20th WPC @ 2011-10-30 1:50 AM (#5839 - in reply to #5838) (#5839) Top



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Fred76 - 2011-10-30 1:44 AM

It took me a while to understand the rule of triangle sums, especially this "diagonally touching neighbours", because we talk about cells that are orthogonally adjacent to the first cell, but diagonally touching themselves. Imagine that you have ..352.. in a row (first row of the example), then, if you remove this "diagonally touching", cell containing the 5 should be grey (because 3+2=5, and both are neighbouring the 5). But it is not the case, because 2 and 3 are not diagonally touching.

Once you understand the rule, I think it's a nice variant !

Fred


I agree Fred... but in the instructions we also have "with its legs facing towards the two neighbours". so the assumption is made the two numbers have to be on the non-hypotenuse sides of the triangle...atleast thats the assumption I made.

The puzzle is interesting, all I am saying is more clarity needed with the instructions. :)

Rishi
debmohanty
Subject: RE: 6th WSC & 20th WPC @ 2011-10-30 7:16 PM (#5840 - in reply to #4335) (#5840) Top



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WPC Instruction Booklet - http://users.atw.hu/rejtveny/wscwpc/puzzles/IB/WPC_inst.pdf
debmohanty
Subject: RE: 6th WSC & 20th WPC @ 2011-10-30 7:23 PM (#5841 - in reply to #4335) (#5841) Top



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Note : Official discussion threads where you can expect organizers to reply

WSC - http://www.worldpuzzle.org/wpfforum/read.php?2,541
WPC - http://www.worldpuzzle.org/wpfforum/read.php?2,542
debmohanty
Subject: 6th WSC - Updates @ 2011-11-08 8:49 AM (#5927 - in reply to #4335) (#5927) Top



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Looks like the results are not available online, but here are some blogs / forums where some update are available

http://blogs.warwick.ac.uk/tcollyer/
http://motris.livejournal.com/155722.html

http://sudokuvariante.forumactif.com/t1273p30-wsc-et-wpc-2011#22047
http://forum.logic-masters.de/showthread.php?tid=3


Here is how Round 2 Sudoku looked like - Thanks Fred

debmohanty
Subject: WSC6 - Results update @ 2011-11-08 2:22 PM (#5928 - in reply to #4335) (#5928) Top



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Some results are now available -

Individuals - http://users.atw.hu/rejtveny/wscwpc/wsc-individual.pdf
Team - http://users.atw.hu/rejtveny/wscwpc/wsc-team.pdf



Edited by debmohanty 2011-11-08 2:29 PM
debmohanty
Subject: Some photos from WSC6 (day1) @ 2011-11-08 4:32 PM (#5929 - in reply to #4335) (#5929) Top



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http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.239304909463217.61917.1059...
Fred76
Subject: RE: 6th WSC - Updates @ 2011-11-09 2:14 AM (#5932 - in reply to #5927) (#5932) Top



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debmohanty - 2011-11-08 8:49 AM

Looks like the results are not available online, but here are some blogs / forums where some update are available

http://blogs.warwick.ac.uk/tcollyer/
http://motris.livejournal.com/155722.html

http://sudokuvariante.forumactif.com/t1273p30-wsc-et-wpc-2011#22047
http://forum.logic-masters.de/showthread.php?tid=3


Here is how Round 2 Sudoku looked like - Thanks Fred



Hey, that's my grid, non finished... because I passed my time to try to fix many mistakes... can someone tell me if the pieces I putted are correct, we haven't yet the result of this part...

Fred
debmohanty
Subject: RE: 6th WSC - Updates @ 2011-11-09 6:12 AM (#5933 - in reply to #5932) (#5933) Top



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Fred76 - 2011-11-09 2:14 AM

Hey, that's my grid, non finished... because I passed my time to try to fix many mistakes... can someone tell me if the pieces I putted are correct, we haven't yet the result of this part...

Fred

There are too many duplicate placements I can see - D1/E1, C5/C6, A4/A5, G4/H4, G5/H5/H6, ....
But I recall that there was partial points for this round.
debmohanty
Subject: Thomas Snyder wins WSC6 @ 2011-11-09 6:17 AM (#5934 - in reply to #4335) (#5934) Top



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Bit late to post, but Thomas Snyder wins WSC again. This is his 3rd WSC win after Prague & Goa. Congrats Thomas.

Top5 after finals
1. Thomas Snyder (1)
2. Kota Morinishi (4)
3. Tiit Vunk (3)
4. Hideaki Jo (9)
5. Florian Kirch (5)

Bracketed number is the rank before finals.
debmohanty
Subject: RE: Thomas Snyder wins WSC6 @ 2011-11-09 6:26 AM (#5935 - in reply to #5934) (#5935) Top



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If you haven't checked, you must check uvo's live coverage in LMD forum
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Subject: Re: 6th WSC & 20th WPC @ 2011-11-10 2:34 PM (#5940 - in reply to #4335) (#5940) Top




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Hearties congratulations to Thomas and other winners....
Fred76
Subject: RE: 6th WSC - Updates @ 2011-11-11 4:07 AM (#5942 - in reply to #5933) (#5942) Top



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debmohanty - 2011-11-09 6:12 AM

Fred76 - 2011-11-09 2:14 AM

Hey, that's my grid, non finished... because I passed my time to try to fix many mistakes... can someone tell me if the pieces I putted are correct, we haven't yet the result of this part...

Fred

There are too many duplicate placements I can see - D1/E1, C5/C6, A4/A5, G4/H4, G5/H5/H6, ....
But I recall that there was partial points for this round.


In fact, there aren't duplicate placement: there are cells were I do not place any pieces (because lack of time) and on these you see the background picture (on which we had to place pieces). If you look more closely, you'll see for example that in E1, there is a piece placed, but not in D1. D1 was empty, we see the wrong clue of the background picture (that was very confusing during solving the puzzle).

In fact, all the 59 pieces placed in this puzzle are right, I got 114 points.

Fred
debmohanty
Subject: WPC Blog updates @ 2011-11-11 6:14 AM (#5943 - in reply to #4335) (#5943) Top



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http://blogs.warwick.ac.uk/tcollyer/
http://mellowmelon.wordpress.com/2011/11/10/2011-wpc-update-1/
http://motris.livejournal.com/156629.html
Fred76
Subject: RE: 6th WSC - Updates @ 2011-11-11 6:56 PM (#5945 - in reply to #5932) (#5945) Top



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debmohanty - 2011-11-08 8:49 AM

Looks like the results are not available online, but here are some blogs / forums where some update are available

http://blogs.warwick.ac.uk/tcollyer/
http://motris.livejournal.com/155722.html

http://sudokuvariante.forumactif.com/t1273p30-wsc-et-wpc-2011#22047
http://forum.logic-masters.de/showthread.php?tid=3


Here is how Round 2 Sudoku looked like - Thanks Fred



Here is the starting point:



and here is the solution:



I'll open a new topic to develop some thoughts about this puzzle.

Fred
debmohanty
Subject: RE: 6th WSC & 20th WPC @ 2011-11-11 7:57 PM (#5946 - in reply to #4335) (#5946) Top



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Since the photo is taken from an angle, some of the elements are not clear.

If I'm allowed to replace by a letter, have I done a correct translation?
Fred76
Subject: RE: 6th WSC & 20th WPC @ 2011-11-11 8:10 PM (#5947 - in reply to #5946) (#5947) Top



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debmohanty - 2011-11-11 7:57 PM

Since the photo is taken from an angle, some of the elements are not clear.

If I'm allowed to replace by a letter, have I done a correct translation?


R5C5 it's a F (not a A) and R5C7 it's also a F (not a G)
debmohanty
Subject: RE: 6th WSC & 20th WPC @ 2011-11-11 8:33 PM (#5948 - in reply to #5947) (#5948) Top



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Fred76 - 2011-11-11 8:10 PM

R5C5 it's a F (not a A) and R5C7 it's also a F (not a G)
Ok. [ Removed the first image to avoid confusion since it is in the previous page ]

Edited by debmohanty 2011-11-11 8:35 PM




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debmohanty
Subject: WPC Results (Round 1~9) @ 2011-11-11 8:40 PM (#5949 - in reply to #4335) (#5949) Top



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Individual - http://users.atw.hu/rejtveny/wscwpc/wpc-individual.pdf
Team - http://users.atw.hu/rejtveny/wscwpc/wpc-team.pdf
Fred76
Subject: RE: WPC Results (Round 1~9) @ 2011-11-12 5:41 PM (#5950 - in reply to #5949) (#5950) Top



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Palmer Mebane (=MellowMelon) is the new puzzle world champion !!!
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Subject: RE: 6th WSC - Updates @ 2011-11-12 8:44 PM (#5952 - in reply to #5945) (#5952) Top



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Fred76 - 2011-11-11 6:56 PM

I'll open a new topic to develop some thoughts about this puzzle.


Thread opened here: http://logicmastersindia.com/forum/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=402&p...
debmohanty
Subject: RE: 6th WSC & 20th WPC @ 2011-11-17 10:56 AM (#5973 - in reply to #4335) (#5973) Top



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After live-blogging during the event, time for some 'dead'-blogging

Bastien - http://ile-logique.blogspot.com/2011/11/6e-wsc-cest-dans-les-vieux-...
Fred - http://sudokuvariante.blogspot.com/2011/11/championnats-du-monde-ws...
Rohan - http://rohanrao.blogspot.com/2011/11/world-sudoku-championship-2011...

Interesting reads. Thanks for sharing.
Valezius
Subject: RE: 6th WSC & 20th WPC @ 2011-12-01 1:26 PM (#6102 - in reply to #5973) (#6102) Top


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As the one of the organizer of the last WSC/WPC I created a new puzzle blog. I will focus to the last WPC, and I will share stories about the puzzles and rounds of the WSC/WPC, theories, questions and puzzles, of course.

The adress is: www.valezius.blogspot.com

New puzzles (and new posts) from me on every Thursday.

Sometimes I will publish puzzles from other authors as well.



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