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Best of LMI Mocks - December Sudoku Test — 16th-18th December
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Subject: Re: Best of LMI Mocks - December Sudoku Test — 16th-18th December @ 2011-12-12 1:53 PM (#6172 - in reply to #6166) (#6172) Top




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In Neighbours=N, will the information of N=? be given?
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Subject: Re: Best of LMI Mocks - December Sudoku Test — 16th-18th December @ 2011-12-12 2:39 PM (#6173 - in reply to #6172) (#6173) Top



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tamz29 - 2011-12-12 1:53 PM

In Neighbours=N, will the information of N=? be given?

N=? will be printed in the booklet.
swaroop2011
Subject: Re: Best of LMI Mocks - December Sudoku Test — 16th-18th December @ 2011-12-12 6:07 PM (#6174 - in reply to #6166) (#6174) Top



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hey just to clarify the partial point system of LINKED MINI SUDOKU

it says "grid without hints 30,grid with hints 15 points each"

so if i solved four grids that has hints and one grid which does not have hints..
then i will get 15+15+15+15+30=90 points greater than 75(for completely solved puzzle)
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Subject: Re: Best of LMI Mocks - December Sudoku Test — 16th-18th December @ 2011-12-12 7:59 PM (#6175 - in reply to #6174) (#6175) Top




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swaroop2011 - 2011-12-12 6:07 PM

hey just to clarify the partial point system of LINKED MINI SUDOKU

it says "grid without hints 30,grid with hints 15 points each"

so if i solved four grids that has hints and one grid which does not have hints..
then i will get 15+15+15+15+30=90 points greater than 75(for completely solved puzzle)


I guess there will be only four grids (30+15+15+15 = 75)
debmohanty
Subject: Re: Best of LMI Mocks - December Sudoku Test — 16th-18th December @ 2011-12-12 8:55 PM (#6176 - in reply to #6175) (#6176) Top



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Gotroch - 2011-12-12 7:59 PM

I guess there will be only four grids (30+15+15+15 = 75)

Yes.
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Subject: Re: Best of LMI Mocks - December Sudoku Test — 16th-18th December @ 2011-12-12 9:26 PM (#6177 - in reply to #6166) (#6177) Top



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in SERIES SUDOKU

in given series of numbers : the number 1 is repeated
is it purposefully given or bymistakely.
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Subject: Re: Best of LMI Mocks - December Sudoku Test — 16th-18th December @ 2011-12-12 9:31 PM (#6178 - in reply to #6177) (#6178) Top


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swaroop2011 - 2011-12-12 9:26 PM

in SERIES SUDOKU

in given series of numbers : the number 1 is repeated
is it purposefully given or bymistakely.

The theme is 'Pi'.
swaroop2011
Subject: Re: Best of LMI Mocks - December Sudoku Test — 16th-18th December @ 2011-12-12 9:41 PM (#6179 - in reply to #6178) (#6179) Top



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Rohan Rao - 2011-12-12 9:31 PM

swaroop2011 - 2011-12-12 9:26 PM

in SERIES SUDOKU

in given series of numbers : the number 1 is repeated
is it purposefully given or bymistakely.

The theme is 'Pi'.


hey sry i didnt understood what are u saying?
David McNeill
Subject: Re: Best of LMI Mocks - December Sudoku Test — 16th-18th December @ 2011-12-13 3:54 AM (#6181 - in reply to #6166) (#6181) Top


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In Series Sudoku, is it true, from a solving point of view, that the order of the series has no significance and we simply have to ensure that the shaded cells contain a digit contained in the set of given numbers?
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Subject: Re: Best of LMI Mocks - December Sudoku Test — 16th-18th December @ 2011-12-13 4:30 AM (#6182 - in reply to #6181) (#6182) Top



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David McNeill - 2011-12-13 3:54 AM

In Series Sudoku, is it true, from a solving point of view, that the order of the series has no significance and we simply have to ensure that the shaded cells contain a digit contained in the set of given numbers?

Yes.
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Subject: Re: Best of LMI Mocks - December Sudoku Test — 16th-18th December @ 2011-12-13 9:52 AM (#6183 - in reply to #6179) (#6183) Top


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swaroop2011 - 2011-12-12 9:41 PM

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swaroop2011 - 2011-12-12 9:26 PM

in SERIES SUDOKU

in given series of numbers : the number 1 is repeated
is it purposefully given or bymistakely.

The theme is 'Pi'.


hey sry i didnt understood what are u saying?

The repetition of digits and sequence of digits does not matter as long as those digits appear in shaded cells. The '1' is repeated because the theme is 'Pi', the givens are shaped like the symbol 'Pi' and the numbers outside represent the value of 'Pi'.

Edited by Rohan Rao 2011-12-13 9:53 AM
swaroop2011
Subject: Re: Best of LMI Mocks - December Sudoku Test — 16th-18th December @ 2011-12-13 12:38 PM (#6184 - in reply to #6166) (#6184) Top



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ohh got it :)
Fred76
Subject: Re: Best of LMI Mocks - December Sudoku Test — 16th-18th December @ 2011-12-13 5:36 PM (#6185 - in reply to #6184) (#6185) Top



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It looks very interesting .

I find it difficult to distinguish the gray lines and arrows on hidden skyscrapers and diagonal consecutive. Could they be a bit darker on the test grids?

Thanks !

Fred
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Subject: Re: Best of LMI Mocks - December Sudoku Test — 16th-18th December @ 2011-12-13 7:48 PM (#6186 - in reply to #6185) (#6186) Top



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Fred76 - 2011-12-13 5:36 PM

It looks very interesting .

I find it difficult to distinguish the gray lines and arrows on hidden skyscrapers and diagonal consecutive. Could they be a bit darker on the test grids?

Thanks !

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Changed the arrows to 40% black (it was 20% earlier). Let me know if this is better.




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Subject: Re: Best of LMI Mocks - December Sudoku Test — 16th-18th December @ 2011-12-13 8:35 PM (#6187 - in reply to #6186) (#6187) Top



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Much better for me, thanks !
debmohanty
Subject: RE: Best of LMI Mocks - December Sudoku Test — 16th-18th December @ 2011-12-13 9:19 PM (#6188 - in reply to #6166) (#6188) Top



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Ok. Same changes to Diagonal Consecutive.




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greenhorn
Subject: Re: Best of LMI Mocks - December Sudoku Test — 16th-18th December @ 2011-12-15 3:38 PM (#6189 - in reply to #6166) (#6189) Top


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I definitely love the "number tree." Great idea, Deb!
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Subject: Re: Best of LMI Mocks - December Sudoku Test — 16th-18th December @ 2011-12-15 4:03 PM (#6190 - in reply to #6189) (#6190) Top



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greenhorn - 2011-12-15 3:38 PM

I definitely love the "number tree." Great idea, Deb!

Thanks, but I deserve 0 credit for that.
Serkan had it designed from Umit Berkup who is a Turkish graphics and puzzle designer with specialization in book covers, oil paintings, photoshop manipulations and comics. Some of Umit's work can be seen at his Facebook page - http://www.facebook.com/umitberkup?sk=photos
utkaarsh
Subject: Re: Best of LMI Mocks - December Sudoku Test — 16th-18th December @ 2011-12-15 9:07 PM (#6191 - in reply to #6190) (#6191) Top




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I was solving the IB exmaples and found Windoku sample a tough one, took more than 10 minutes, just wanted general opinion on its difficulty, if some top solvers can share thier timing !!

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Subject: Re: Best of LMI Mocks - December Sudoku Test — 16th-18th December @ 2011-12-16 10:42 AM (#6192 - in reply to #6191) (#6192) Top


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utkaarsh - 2011-12-15 9:07 PM

I was solving the IB exmaples and found Windoku sample a tough one, took more than 10 minutes, just wanted general opinion on its difficulty, if some top solvers can share thier timing !!

I would not say it is easy for an average solver, but I've seen ones that are a lot tougher than this one. Took me around 8 minutes for this one (and solvable logically, without a need for guesswork), but I am not a 'top solver' in Windoku :-)

I hope you use the Windoku 'extra-regions' rule: (Each set of same-coloured cells contains numbers 1-9 apart from the nine 3x3 boxes and four 3x3 regions)

Edited by Rohan Rao 2011-12-16 1:46 PM




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Subject: Re: Best of LMI Mocks - December Sudoku Test — 16th-18th December @ 2011-12-16 12:11 PM (#6193 - in reply to #6166) (#6193) Top




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Thanks Rohan, yes did make use of the extra region logic, but resorted to trial and error which did not go right !!


Edited by utkaarsh 2011-12-16 12:17 PM
swaroop2011
Subject: Re: Best of LMI Mocks - December Sudoku Test — 16th-18th December @ 2011-12-16 6:01 PM (#6199 - in reply to #6166) (#6199) Top



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can somebody help me out with NEIGHBOURS
i only got one number 5 at R8C8 and thats it..
No further clues to proceed accept some pencil markings..
Fred76
Subject: Re: Best of LMI Mocks - December Sudoku Test — 16th-18th December @ 2011-12-16 6:42 PM (#6200 - in reply to #6199) (#6200) Top



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swaroop2011 - 2011-12-16 6:01 PM

can somebody help me out with NEIGHBOURS
i only got one number 5 at R8C8 and thats it..
No further clues to proceed accept some pencil markings..


In the 9th box: you have a pair 28 next to the 5 (edges). Then at R9C7 in can only be 4 or 7. Then you can place the 1 in row 8 (considering that there isn't edge between R9C67, then 4 can't be placed at R9C6 ). You can place 1 and 4 in 8th box, then the 9 in row 8, etc...

I like how the N=3 works (I think that perhaps I'm the inventor of this variant?): You have to "think" digits into 3 groups: 1-4-7, 2-5-8 and 3-6-9. And in these groups 4, 5 and 6 play a central role.
Each N has it's own logic, perhaps you have to think about it for each N before the test

Fred
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Subject: Re: Best of LMI Mocks - December Sudoku Test — 16th-18th December @ 2011-12-16 6:53 PM (#6202 - in reply to #6200) (#6202) Top



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can somebody help me out with NEIGHBOURS
i only got one number 5 at R8C8 and thats it..
No further clues to proceed accept some pencil markings..


In the 9th box: you have a pair 28 next to the 5 (edges). Then at R9C7 in can only be 4 or 7. Then you can place the 1 in row 8 (considering that there isn't edge between R9C67, then 4 can't be placed at R9C6 ). You can place 1 and 4 in 8th box, then the 9 in row 8, etc...

I like how the N=3 works (I think that perhaps I'm the inventor of this variant?): You have to "think" digits into 3 groups: 1-4-7, 2-5-8 and 3-6-9. And in these groups 4, 5 and 6 play a central role.
Each N has it's own logic, perhaps you have to think about it for each N before the test

Fred


hey thanks.

hey can u tell me for the NON CONSECUTIVE KILLER

for this somehow i got
2 at R1C6
2 at R3C7
8 at R3C8
7 at R4C1
ONLY THESE FOUR NUMBERS..

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