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Location: India | The Instruction Booklet is published. The points table will be updated over the coming week.
Link : http://logicmastersindia.com/2015/forsmarts/ |
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Location: India | Instant GradingAs with most tests on LMI, this test will also have Instant Grading enabled.
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Location: New Zealand | I think puzzle C1 (Pentomino) needs extra rules, such as "Pentominoes cannot touch, not even diagonally", and can pentominoes can be rotated and/or reflected?
Also, has anyone solved the example for D3 Snake + Battleships or C1 Pentomino and can give a hint?
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forsmarts 13th Anniversary Contest Author
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Location: Belarus | kiwijam - 2015-12-02 8:03 AM
I think puzzle C1 (Pentomino) needs extra rules, such as "Pentominoes cannot touch, not even diagonally", and can pentominoes can be rotated and/or reflected?
Yes, you're right, the part of rules about not touching and rotation/reflection is missing, my bad. It should be the same as in C3: "Pentomino can be rotated and reflected, but cannot touch each other even in a point."
kiwijam - 2015-12-02 8:03 AM
Also, has anyone solved the example for D3 Snake + Battleships or C1 Pentomino and can give a hint?
The example is taken from my past puzzlebook, and is not supposed to be solvable quickly enough :) I'll adjust the difficulty of this example to be comparable with the competition puzzle in the next version of the instruction booklet that will also contain the points distribution.
As for the C1 example puzzle, I'd start with an analysis of top 4 rows.
Also please note that the puzzle booklet will not contain the rules (it will already contain too much pages), so I'd advise to have the instruction booklet nearby, in case you have any doubts about the rules. |
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Location: ITALY | Judging from B4, I imagine that even in B5 the loop CAN touch itself. please confirm |
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Location: Belarus | forcolin - 2015-12-02 3:15 PM
Judging from B4, I imagine that even in B5 the loop CAN touch itself. please confirm
Absolutely correct. The snake-like loop in the example is just a coincidence. |
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Location: India | Points TablePlease note
1) updated Instructions booklet with points table uploaded.
2) The first, second, third, and fourth incorrect submission reduces the potential score to 90%, 70%, 40%, and 0% respectively.
3) The puzzle booklet will have 13 pages, it will NOT contain the rules.
4) Be careful with the answer keys - they vary from puzzle to puzzle
5) The test will not be considered in ratings.
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Location: India | Start timePlease note the contest's start time has been changed and it is now scheduled to start at the usual time of recent contests, in roughly 80 minutes from now.
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forsmarts 13th Anniversary Contest Author
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Location: Belarus | The contest is mostly aimed at the experienced audience, as the majority of puzzles are really tough, but there's also something for the beginners.
Good luck to everyone who's going to compete! :)
Edited by forsmarts 2015-12-04 10:54 PM
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Location: United Kingdom | My first ever competition :) exciting, hopefully I'll be able to do a couple of them! Thanks for running such a cool event! |
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Location: United Kingdom | | Was there sufficient variety in the puzzle types represented? | Yes, lot of variety | | | What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? | Perfect answer keys | | | What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? | Fairly Nice | | | Which set of puzzles did you like the most? | Pentomino + Masyu + Latin Square | | | How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? | Way too many puzzles (too little time) | | | Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? | Most puzzles were worth the right amount | |
I had a lot of fun but it was a bit too difficult. Even the questions for under 20 points took me a lot of effort to manage, and the final question I tried I couldn't do in ~90 minutes. Great variety though, I've been introduced to a lot of new puzzles which is always really nice. |
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Location: France | | Was there sufficient variety in the puzzle types represented? | Yes, lot of variety | | | What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? | Mostly perfect answer keys | | | What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? | Very nice | | | Which set of puzzles did you like the most? | Sudoku + Skyscrapers + Star Battle | | | How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? | A bit too many puzzles | | | Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? | Most puzzles were worth the right amount | |
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Location: United States | | Was there sufficient variety in the puzzle types represented? | Yes, lot of variety | | | What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? | Answer keys could have been better | | | What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? | Very nice | | | Which set of puzzles did you like the most? | Domino + Coral + Japanese Sums | | | How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? | Just right | | | Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? | Most puzzles were worth the right amount | |
This test was very difficult but a lot of fun. I really liked the idea of having sets of puzzles and combinations of them. |
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Location: Romania | | Was there sufficient variety in the puzzle types represented? | Yes, lot of variety | | | What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? | Mostly perfect answer keys | | | What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? | Very nice | | | Which set of puzzles did you like the most? | Sudoku + Skyscrapers + Star Battle | | | How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? | A bit too many puzzles | | | Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? | Most puzzles were worth the right amount | |
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Location: Estonia | | Was there sufficient variety in the puzzle types represented? | Yes, lot of variety | | | What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? | Mostly perfect answer keys | | | What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? | Fairly Nice | | | Which set of puzzles did you like the most? | Sudoku + Skyscrapers + Star Battle | | | How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? | Way too many puzzles (too little time) | | | Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? | Many puzzles were worth too much or too little | |
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| | Was there sufficient variety in the puzzle types represented? | Yes, lot of variety | | | What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? | Mostly perfect answer keys | | | What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? | Very nice | | | Which set of puzzles did you like the most? | Pentomino + Masyu + Latin Square | | | How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? | A bit too many puzzles | | | Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? | Most puzzles were worth the right amount | |
Many puzzles were too hard for an online contest. Also, the contest duration was a bit too long.
Puzzles were very nice and enjoyable (wihout the time limit). Good variety too. |
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Location: India | | Was there sufficient variety in the puzzle types represented? | Yes, lot of variety | | | What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? | Very nice | | | How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? | Way too many puzzles (too little time) | |
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Location: Hungary | | Was there sufficient variety in the puzzle types represented? | Yes, lot of variety | | | What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? | Mostly perfect answer keys | | | What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? | Very nice | | | Which set of puzzles did you like the most? | Kakuro + Kropki + Loopfinder | | | How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? | A bit too many puzzles | | | Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? | Most puzzles were worth the right amount | |
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Location: Poland | | Was there sufficient variety in the puzzle types represented? | Yes, lot of variety | | | What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? | Answer keys were horrible | | | What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? | Very nice | | | Which set of puzzles did you like the most? | Sudoku + Skyscrapers + Star Battle | | | How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? | Way too many puzzles (too little time) | | | Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? | Most puzzles were worth the right amount | |
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Location: Turkey | This one was lovely! Thanks Vladimir. Really mixture :) There were so many rules, and honestly I forgot some, such as Kakuro+Loop+Kropki. I spent nearly 25-30 minutes, because I forgot the Kropki rules :); Domino+Corral+JS, I forgot the Domino rules, and when I attempted to the enter the solution, it showed up broken. I checked the puzzle several times, it seemed everything was set. Then I said myself "Ooo man you are stupid, where is the domino set?" After that got it.
I'm sure that the whole set required huge work, so THANK YOU so much Vladimir for a such a challenging set of the puzzles! Really great! |
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Location: Japan | | Was there sufficient variety in the puzzle types represented? | Yes, lot of variety | | | What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? | Answer keys could have been better | | | What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? | Very nice | | | Which set of puzzles did you like the most? | Sudoku + Skyscrapers + Star Battle | | | How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? | Just right | | | Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? | Many puzzles were worth too much or too little | |
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| | Was there sufficient variety in the puzzle types represented? | Yes, lot of variety | | | What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? | Answer keys were horrible | | | What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? | Fairly Nice | | | Which set of puzzles did you like the most? | Kakuro + Kropki + Loopfinder | | | How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? | Way too many puzzles (too little time) | | | Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? | Many puzzles were worth too much or too little | |
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Location: India | | Was there sufficient variety in the puzzle types represented? | Yes, lot of variety | | | What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? | Answer keys could have been better | | | What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? | Very nice | | | Which set of puzzles did you like the most? | Sudoku + Skyscrapers + Star Battle | | | How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? | Way too many puzzles (too little time) | | | Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? | Most puzzles were worth the right amount | |
A really hard and nice test!Thanks for the great puzzles. |
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Location: India | | Was there sufficient variety in the puzzle types represented? | Yes, lot of variety | | | What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? | Very nice | | | Which set of puzzles did you like the most? | Sudoku + Skyscrapers + Star Battle | | | How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? | A bit too many puzzles | | | Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? | Most puzzles were worth the right amount | |
A very nice challenging set of puzzles ! Looking forward to more such tests in the future.
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