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Location: United States | The Instructions for the Big Tent say:
1. The numbers outside the grid indicate the number of tents in
that row or column.
2. ... each (Big) tent occupies two adjacent squares instead of just
one square.
In the Big Tent example, there is one row and one column that denote the number 3 (meaning 3 tents), but there are only 2 tents in each taking up 3 cells. Therefore, on the Big Tent puzzle, the numbers outside the grid are actually supposed to indicate the number of cells that have tents in that row or column.
I have not done the test yet, but I feel that this instruction and example discrepancy should be clarified or corrected. I see that you have addressed it in the forum, but many will not have read the forum and will struggle unnecessarily with the mutant, so you should probably update the .pdf.
Thanks.
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Location: India | Hi Ken, as you mentioned, from the example image in the Big Tents Party it is pretty clear that the numbers represent the number of cells.
motris has already fixed these in his local copy, but we don't plan to upload the latest version in the server. Lot of players have already downloaded the IB, they won't download again unless we make an announcement. Making an announcement is always confusing, and we would like to avoid it since it is only an obvious mistake in the IB. |
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Location: United States | The test was sooo much fun, Thanks Thomas Snyder!! The bad thing though, is I've had my first submission error... forgot a line on a skyscrapers... Oh well, thanks again!! |
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Location: United Kingdom | If you are stupid and enter the Tents Mutant solution into the Tents Hard box, is there any chance of getting credit anyway? :) (which, erm, I did... oops) |
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Location: India | Gareth - 2010-10-16 8:11 AM
If you are stupid and enter the Tents Mutant solution into the Tents Hard box, is there any chance of getting credit anyway? :) (which, erm, I did... oops)
Marked the tent as correct. Please check your score again. |
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Location: India | Really nice puzzles!! (though i scored bad) Had real fun!! Thank you so much Thomas and LMI!! |
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Location: United States | Well, I decided to make my grand Logic Masters India debut, and try one of these test things for fun. The puzzles, as was to be expected given the author, were very very high quality, and I got a real rush every time I managed to finish a puzzle within the time limit.
I made a very n00bish mistake by waiting until 22 minutes were left before submitting any answers; that may have cost me a ton of time bonus points. I guess I wasn't sure whether I could submit more than once or not, so I waited a bit, to be safe. :[ |
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Location: United States | Great Test. Thanks. Any chance of points on an easy battleship for entering 1's and 0's instead of n's and o's? |
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Location: United States | Best test I have done on LMI yet. Nice pace and great puzzles. On the Hard Nurikabe, I had a brain lapse and did my 0s and 1s correct for Column A and then reversed them on Column. Any relief would be appreciated. Sorry to beg, but I feel compelled. Thanks for everything about this competition and website. Thanks.
Ken Levine
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Location: India | mathgrant - 2010-10-16 9:36 AM
Well, I decided to make my grand Logic Masters India debut, and try one of these test things for fun. The puzzles, as was to be expected given the author, were very very high quality, and I got a real rush every time I managed to finish a puzzle within the time limit.
I made a very n00bish mistake by waiting until 22 minutes were left before submitting any answers; that may have cost me a ton of time bonus points. I guess I wasn't sure whether I could submit more than once or not, so I waited a bit, to be safe. :[
Grand LMI debut! That was nice.
You could submit as many times as you want. We just explained this few posts back (in this thread itself)
Also, you can check your score immediately after you complete the test. |
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Location: India | Amazing set of high quality puzzles Thomas. It definitely is one of the best tests at LMI so far.
Detailed feedback about puzzles on Monday :-) |
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Location: India | Awesome set of puzzles ................ really enjoyed...
I agree with Rohan..........one of the best so far..........
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Location: United States | thesubro - 2010-10-16 12:12 PM
Best test I have done on LMI yet. Nice pace and great puzzles. On the Hard Nurikabe, I had a brain lapse and did my 0s and 1s correct for Column A and then reversed them on Column. Any relief would be appreciated. Sorry to beg, but I feel compelled. Thanks for everything about this competition and website. Thanks.
Ken Levine
"TheSubro"
My goal on grading is to be lenient in cases where it's clear that a solver has an answer and simply made a mistake on the answer entry. This means mistakes like reversing 1's and 0's in the Nurikabe or putting the Mutant answer in the Hard spot will likely get credit, but I'm waiting until more solvers have answered to see what are the common entry mistakes to deal with. |
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Location: United Kingdom | Really enjoyed this, thank you Thomas - it was great to have a set of puzzles which was accessible to the enthsiastic amateur like myself as well as expert puzzlers! I just managed the easy ones but obtained some satisfaction in getting all 10 puzzle types correct.
Speaking of entry mistakes however, I did just get 9 marked correctly because I made a stupid error (only myself to blame) in copying out the numbers in the top row of the easy tomtom puzzle instead of the numbers for the row marked A!
Thanks again for the puzzles - just need to work on the harder ones now. |
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Location: Bulgaria | motris - 2010-10-16 4:47 PM
thesubro - 2010-10-16 12:12 PM
Best test I have done on LMI yet. Nice pace and great puzzles. On the Hard Nurikabe, I had a brain lapse and did my 0s and 1s correct for Column A and then reversed them on Column. Any relief would be appreciated. Sorry to beg, but I feel compelled. Thanks for everything about this competition and website. Thanks.
Ken Levine
"TheSubro"
My goal on grading is to be lenient in cases where it's clear that a solver has an answer and simply made a mistake on the answer entry. This means mistakes like reversing 1's and 0's in the Nurikabe or putting the Mutant answer in the Hard spot will likely get credit, but I'm waiting until more solvers have answered to see what are the common entry mistakes to deal with.
Well I made the exact same error on the Mutant Nurikabe - I inverted the code for Column A. Also I switched the answers for the Easy and Hard Masyu. I'd be happy if you decide to count them as correct.
Too bad I also made a solving mistake on one of the minesweepers =\ |
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Location: United States | StGeorge - 2010-10-16 8:44 PM
Well I made the exact same error on the Mutant Nurikabe - I inverted the code for Column A. Also I switched the answers for the Easy and Hard Masyu. I'd be happy if you decide to count them as correct.
Too bad I also made a solving mistake on one of the minesweepers =\
You should now see credit for this entry. |
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Location: Bulgaria | motris - 2010-10-16 5:52 PM
You should now see credit for this entry.
Cool, thanks :) |
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Location: United States | I very nearly made a solving mistake in the Hard Minesweeper; however, I took the time to add up the numbers, and realized it wasn't the same as the number of mines listed beside the grid. Turns out I had two unsolved cells, one of which was a mine, and I fixed it easily.
Too bad I didn't do the same for the Mutant Tents; the sum of the numbers in my entry was an odd number, which for this particular Mutant would have been an immediate red flag that I had goofed. I also had one other wrong entry; neither of these, I believe, is worthy of the same grace that entering the Mutant answer in the Hard space would be. :) |
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Location: United States | Whew. That was a blast. Had a very frantic five minutes at the end entering answers, finishing with 19 seconds to spare. Thankfully no entry mistakes, it seems. |
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Location: Turkey | I took the test. My first impression the contest is suitable for every puzzle solver. I made some mistakes, and wrong bonus strategy, i lost some points. But everyone lost something:)
Thank you very much Thomas for this smooth puzzle set. I didnt understand how pass the time. I love Battleships(mutant), ABC Connection(M), Tents(M) and Simple Loop(M).
Thank you very much for organizers.
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Location: United States | Hmmm, seems I completely forgot about time bonuses. If I'm reading the rules correctly, they only matter once you've solved more than 20 puzzles, right? |
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Location: Canada | Great puzzles and loved the format. Nearly hit my target. (I hope you'll go gently on the grading - 130 points lost in transposing would be a good lesson for me though.) More to add later. |
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Location: ITALY | it was a great contest, as expected given the author.
as usual I spent the last minutes trying in vain to solve a hard mutant, just to discover after the end that there were other simpler mutants which could have given me maybe 30 more points...
I like the bonus structure and I got a satisfactory bonus - for the first time I even managed to get some (few) time bonus points!!!
Great stuff !!!
Stefano
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Location: Canada | I had one badly verified guess, and one stupid 'greater than' error, but three time bonus points! Woot!
In any case, awesome test again. Thanks a bunch! |
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Location: India | ostroffj - 2010-10-17 1:02 AM
Hmmm, seems I completely forgot about time bonuses. If I'm reading the rules correctly, they only matter once you've solved more than 20 puzzles, right? that is correct. More than 20 solved (and submitted) correctly |
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