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Indian Puzzle Championship - 2011
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zalak
Subject: Re: Indian Puzzle Championship - 2011 @ 2011-06-05 10:58 PM (#4713 - in reply to #4710) (#4713) Top




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Rohan Rao - 2011-06-05 9:29 PM

@Zalak
Count the sum of given digits outside. If its equal to the number of cells, then no blank cells :D


wow, thanks! never thought about it!
swaroop2011
Subject: Re: Indian Puzzle Championship - 2011 @ 2011-06-06 6:49 PM (#4740 - in reply to #2876) (#4740) Top



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can any body give a bigger size of puzzle for "FIRST OR LAST" for practise.
i am facing sum problem to solve it..
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Subject: Re: Indian Puzzle Championship - 2011 @ 2011-06-07 1:20 AM (#4750 - in reply to #2876) (#4750) Top




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Information Booklet (Points table, Round Timings) published - http://logicmastersindia.com/IPC2011/finals.asp

Edited by Organisers 2011-06-07 1:22 AM
utkaarsh
Subject: Re: Indian Puzzle Championship - 2011 @ 2011-06-07 6:06 PM (#4754 - in reply to #2876) (#4754) Top




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For Rd 2 , the grid sizes are given in IB , can the grid size be shared for atleast the easy puzzles in Rd 3 and Rd 1 puzzles
debmohanty
Subject: Re: Indian Puzzle Championship - 2011 @ 2011-06-07 6:18 PM (#4755 - in reply to #4754) (#4755) Top



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utkaarsh - 2011-06-07 6:06 PM

For Rd 2 , the grid sizes are given in IB , can the grid size be shared for atleast the easy puzzles in Rd 3 and Rd 1 puzzles

The reason it is specified for Round2 is because I had to explain the partial points. Otherwise I wouldn't have mentioned that.

I can do that for Round1/3, but will it be really useful for you in planning / making a strategy, I'll do that. let me know.
debmohanty
Subject: RE: Indian Puzzle Championship - 2011 @ 2011-06-07 6:19 PM (#4756 - in reply to #2876) (#4756) Top



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Oh wait... may be I can't.
Many participants don't read forum, and it will be unfair to publish something about the puzzles here.
Sorry.

As such, if we publish the grid sizes beforehand, it will probably be first of its kind.
utkaarsh
Subject: Re: Indian Puzzle Championship - 2011 @ 2011-06-07 6:32 PM (#4757 - in reply to #2876) (#4757) Top




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Since, i am new to puzzles, wanted to pick and choose which to concentrate on , like points grid size also indicate the complexity of a puzzle,
The grid sizes /range in some cases are surely useful, frameless sudoku, different sums, where combinations are needed
Also if posting in forum is a concern, updated IB is as an option ,open to other view points,
debmohanty
Subject: Re: Indian Puzzle Championship - 2011 @ 2011-06-07 6:41 PM (#4758 - in reply to #4757) (#4758) Top



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I must be sleeping when I wrote that we can't publish here. Obviously, as you said, we can update the IB

Utkaarsh, let me emphasize that the grid size will not reveal anything about puzzle complexity. As a sample, if I say the Frameless sudoku is 9X9, it doesn't signify anything about its complexity. It is only points that tell you more about difficulty.

For players who are new to puzzles, it is important to form a strategy to solve the types you are more comfortable with, irrespective of the grid size or points.
swaroop2011
Subject: Re: Indian Puzzle Championship - 2011 @ 2011-06-07 9:21 PM (#4759 - in reply to #2876) (#4759) Top



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in "LIGHT UP"
is there any restriction on number of bulbs(as not mentioned in rules).
is it like minimum possible bulbs?
debmohanty
Subject: Re: Indian Puzzle Championship - 2011 @ 2011-06-07 10:26 PM (#4761 - in reply to #4759) (#4761) Top



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swaroop2011 - 2011-06-07 9:21 PM

in "LIGHT UP"
is there any restriction on number of bulbs(as not mentioned in rules).
is it like minimum possible bulbs?
Come on Swaroop, it is a standard puzzle, with standard instructions. I've no idea why you are confused.
swaroop2011
Subject: Re: Indian Puzzle Championship - 2011 @ 2011-06-07 10:34 PM (#4762 - in reply to #2876) (#4762) Top



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hey srry for that but i dont know i was thinking something different at that time.
it's fine now with that.
davmillar
Subject: Re: Indian Puzzle Championship - 2011 @ 2011-06-08 7:35 PM (#4778 - in reply to #2876) (#4778) Top





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Hey everyone. Today on The Griddle I posted a new puzzle that may serve as good practice for the masyu-fence puzzle:

Shotgun Slitherlink

In this variation there's one additional twist: all the numeric clues consist of a 2 directly to the left of a 3, to form several instances of "23" throughout the grid. Every place that a 23 can legally be placed in the grid, the clues are given.

I also have additional masyu-fence puzzles (that I call "shotgun slitherlink") on my site which you can find here.

Happy puzzling!

Edited by davmillar 2011-06-08 7:36 PM
debmohanty
Subject: RE: Indian Puzzle Championship - 2011 @ 2011-06-08 7:41 PM (#4779 - in reply to #2876) (#4779) Top



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Thanks David, I'm sure it will be useful practice to all.
vopani
Subject: Re: Indian Puzzle Championship - 2011 @ 2011-06-08 9:53 PM (#4780 - in reply to #4779) (#4780) Top


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Any particular reason puzzles of Round 2 are 20x20? I understand the concept is big grids, but was 20 chosen as a random round figure or does it have any significance? Just for trivia sake...
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Subject: Re: Indian Puzzle Championship - 2011 @ 2011-06-08 10:07 PM (#4781 - in reply to #4780) (#4781) Top




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Rohan Rao - 2011-06-08 9:53 PM

Any particular reason puzzles of Round 2 are 20x20? I understand the concept is big grids, but was 20 chosen as a random round figure or does it have any significance? Just for trivia sake...
Guesses from others welcome!
neerajmehrotra
Subject: Re: Indian Puzzle Championship - 2011 @ 2011-06-08 11:59 PM (#4782 - in reply to #4781) (#4782) Top




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Rohan Rao - 2011-06-08 9:53 PM

Any particular reason puzzles of Round 2 are 20x20? I understand the concept is big grids, but was 20 chosen as a random round figure or does it have any significance? Just for trivia sake...
Guesses from others welcome!


20-20.........WE are heading for sudoku premier league...
rajeshk
Subject: Re: Indian Puzzle Championship - 2011 @ 2011-06-09 9:41 AM (#4783 - in reply to #2876) (#4783) Top



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Some of the puzzles for practice can be found as below
Diagonally Magic Squares
http://www.wpcstylepuzzles.com/search/label/Diagonally%20Magic%20Sq...

Every Second Straight
http://www.wpcstylepuzzles.com/search/label/Every%20Second%20Straig...

Trid (This appeared in OAPC Championships)
http://www.wpcstylepuzzles.com/search/label/Trid?max-results=4

Fences
http://www.wpcpuzzlesonline.com/puzzles/slither-links

Kakuro
http://www.wpcpuzzlesonline.com/puzzles/kakuro

Every Second Breakpoint
http://www.wpcpuzzlesonline.com/puzzles/every-second-breakpoint

Tapa
http://www.wpcstylepuzzles.com/search/label/Tapa?max-results=4

Also most of the puzzles can be found at
http://www.janko.at/Raetsel/index.htm





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Subject: Re: Indian Puzzle Championship - 2011 @ 2011-06-09 9:49 AM (#4784 - in reply to #4782) (#4784) Top


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neerajmehrotra - 2011-06-08 11:59 PM

Rohan Rao - 2011-06-08 9:53 PM

Any particular reason puzzles of Round 2 are 20x20? I understand the concept is big grids, but was 20 chosen as a random round figure or does it have any significance? Just for trivia sake...


20-20.........WE are heading for sudoku premier league...

20 puzzles in Round1, 20x20 size grids in Round2, 20 puzzles in Round3, I knew something was up!
The Nov-2011 WPC in Hungary is the 20th WPC, so thats why. And also because I am 20 years old ;)
rajeshk
Subject: Re: Indian Puzzle Championship - 2011 @ 2011-06-09 6:03 PM (#4796 - in reply to #2876) (#4796) Top



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One rule I wanted to confirm that, can the ending square be in the middle or it should always be touching a wall?
e.g. attaching the puzzles from Brazil Puzzle Championship where ending square is not touching the wall or black square.
See the following answer booklet
https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&pid=explorer&chrome=true&srcid=12...
sanket
Subject: RE: Indian Puzzle Championship - 2011 @ 2011-06-09 6:21 PM (#4797 - in reply to #2876) (#4797) Top




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okay..is this solution possible for the given 'tiger in the woods' example given in the IB ?
Tejal Phatak
Subject: RE: Indian Puzzle Championship - 2011 @ 2011-06-09 6:50 PM (#4798 - in reply to #4797) (#4798) Top




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I think the players want to know if the ending cell can be 'anywhere'. There can be another solution then.



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debmohanty
Subject: RE: Indian Puzzle Championship - 2011 @ 2011-06-09 6:54 PM (#4799 - in reply to #4798) (#4799) Top



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This is not allowed. The path can stop only near the wall or a black square.
Also, the end point must not have visited earlier.
rajeshk
Subject: Re: Indian Puzzle Championship - 2011 @ 2011-06-09 7:12 PM (#4800 - in reply to #2876) (#4800) Top



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Thanks Deb for quickly clarifying on this.
sanket
Subject: RE: Indian Puzzle Championship - 2011 @ 2011-06-10 11:53 PM (#4801 - in reply to #2876) (#4801) Top




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Personally speaking,Im finding 'First or Last' completely unsolvable !
Cant even figure how to start the sample puzzle
Can anyone throw some light? (i know its too late,yet just an attempt)
Thanks anyway.
All the best everyone
neerajmehrotra
Subject: RE: Indian Puzzle Championship - 2011 @ 2011-06-11 6:23 PM (#4804 - in reply to #4801) (#4804) Top




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sanket - 2011-06-10 11:53 PM

Personally speaking,Im finding 'First or Last' completely unsolvable !
Cant even figure how to start the sample puzzle
Can anyone throw some light? (i know its too late,yet just an attempt)
Thanks anyway.
All the best everyone


Look at all rows and coloumns with A and B as clues.....
means R1, R2, C2, C4
C cannot be placed in 1 and last cells of these rows and columns...
with this C cannot be placed in R1C1, R1C4, R2C1, R2C4 therefore in first two rows C has to be in second and third column.
Again with the same logic C cannot be placed at R1C2, thus place C at R1C3 & R2C2.....
Now its simple.
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