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Riad Khanmagomedov's April Contest — 13th to 21st April 2024
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prasanna16391
Subject: Riad Khanmagomedov's April Contest — 13th to 21st April 2024 @ 2024-04-08 4:32 PM (#32543) (#32543) Top


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This annual contest shall take place from 13-21 April 2024.
More details shall be shared in subsequent posts soon.
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Subject: Re: Riad Khanmagomedov's April Contest — 13th to 21st April 2024 @ 2024-04-12 2:48 PM (#32550 - in reply to #32543) (#32550) Top


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Some notes about April Contest 2024

Please note this contest will have a slightly different format than regular LMI tests.
Key differences from regular LMI tests:
1. There is no IB (i.e. no Instructions Booklet). If you have any questions about any puzzle, please ask here in the forum.
2. The PB (Puzzle Booklet) does not have any password.
3. You can download the pdf and start solving. Login at the contest page and click on "Start test" to start submitting.
4. There is no time limit other than the 9 day duration. You can submit until the contest ends.
5. There will be some optimizer puzzles. Other puzzles will be very hard (compared to regular LMI tests)
6. Same scores will have same rank (i.e. early submissions do not count towards rank)

Other important points:
7. There shall be no instant grading in this test.
8. There shall be no online solving interface (like penpa) provided for this test.
9. The score page shall be made available later.
10. There shall be 10 pages in the Puzzle Booklet.
11. Participants can submit answers any number of times. The last submission shall be considered for scoring.
12. There shall be no separate notification on submitting answers.
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Subject: Re: Riad Khanmagomedov's April Contest — 13th to 21st April 2024 @ 2024-04-12 2:50 PM (#32551 - in reply to #32543) (#32551) Top


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Contest page

The Puzzle Booklet shall be available just before the start of the contest at the Contest page: https://logicmastersindia.com/live/?contest=M202404Contest
prasanna16391
Subject: Re: Riad Khanmagomedov's April Contest — 13th to 21st April 2024 @ 2024-04-13 1:42 AM (#32553 - in reply to #32543) (#32553) Top


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The puzzle booklet is now available to download.
xupej04m3
Subject: Re: Riad Khanmagomedov's April Contest — 13th to 21st April 2024 @ 2024-04-13 3:10 PM (#32557 - in reply to #32543) (#32557) Top




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Hello! I think there's an error in the example of puzzle 12. Specifically, the row maximum is wrong.
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Subject: Re: Riad Khanmagomedov's April Contest — 13th to 21st April 2024 @ 2024-04-14 6:39 AM (#32559 - in reply to #32557) (#32559) Top


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xupej04m3 - 2024-04-13 3:10 PM

Hello! I think there's an error in the example of puzzle 12. Specifically, the row maximum is wrong.
Updated booklet uploaded. Some calculations were wrong in puzzle 12.
Shalina
Subject: Re: Riad Khanmagomedov's April Contest — 13th to 21st April 2024 @ 2024-04-14 12:26 PM (#32560 - in reply to #32557) (#32560) Top




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Where can we download it from?
forcolin
Subject: Re: Riad Khanmagomedov's April Contest — 13th to 21st April 2024 @ 2024-04-16 12:27 AM (#32564 - in reply to #32543) (#32564) Top





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On Wednesday my son will tie the knot, so I wil be probably either too drunk or too tired to compete for the rest or the week.
Lots of luck to all players, and thanks to Riad for organizing this tournement, which will certainlay be fascinating as usual.
Stefano
prasanna16391
Subject: Re: Riad Khanmagomedov's April Contest — 13th to 21st April 2024 @ 2024-04-16 1:33 AM (#32565 - in reply to #32560) (#32565) Top


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Shalina - 2024-04-14 12:26 PM

Where can we download it from?


The contest page, you can see it in the post above.
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Subject: Re: Riad Khanmagomedov's April Contest — 13th to 21st April 2024 @ 2024-04-17 6:19 AM (#32567 - in reply to #32543) (#32567) Top


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Link to potential score page : https://logicmastersindia.com/2024/04Contest/score.asp
Puzlifouk
Subject: Re: Riad Khanmagomedov's April Contest — 13th to 21st April 2024 @ 2024-04-18 2:34 AM (#32571 - in reply to #32543) (#32571) Top




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Riad Khanmagomedov
Subject: Re: Riad Khanmagomedov's April Contest — 13th to 21st April 2024 @ 2024-04-18 4:30 PM (#32572 - in reply to #32571) (#32572) Top


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Riad Khanmagomedov
Subject: Re: Riad Khanmagomedov's April Contest — 13th to 21st April 2024 @ 2024-04-18 4:31 PM (#32573 - in reply to #32564) (#32573) Top


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forcolin - 2024-04-16 12:27 AM

On Wednesday my son will tie the knot, so I wil be probably either too drunk or too tired to compete for the rest or the week.
Lots of luck to all players, and thanks to Riad for organizing this tournement, which will certainlay be fascinating as usual.
Stefano

Stefano, I sincerely congratulate and wish the newlyweds happiness!
kiwijam
Subject: Re: Riad Khanmagomedov's April Contest — 13th to 21st April 2024 @ 2024-04-18 4:35 PM (#32574 - in reply to #32543) (#32574) Top




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Is there something wrong with the Optimizers column on the potential score page? I have submitted 2, but it says 3. For Christian, it says 4...
Mihalich
Subject: Re: Riad Khanmagomedov's April Contest — 13th to 21st April 2024 @ 2024-04-18 5:30 PM (#32575 - in reply to #32543) (#32575) Top




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In task 7 are there two different sets of numbers for Battleship and Pentamino or are the numbers the same for letters in both problems?
Puzlifouk
Subject: Re: Riad Khanmagomedov's April Contest — 13th to 21st April 2024 @ 2024-04-19 11:23 AM (#32576 - in reply to #32572) (#32576) Top




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Thanks for the answers... however, I haven't checked, but I thought it might be possible to form a polygon (possibly concave, which I suppose is permitted) by using the S clue twice and the NE clue once, for example, if the clues for a row are S and NE. If this were indeed possible, would it be allowed?
Riad Khanmagomedov
Subject: Re: Riad Khanmagomedov's April Contest — 13th to 21st April 2024 @ 2024-04-19 1:33 PM (#32577 - in reply to #32575) (#32577) Top


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Mihalich - 2024-04-18 5:30 PM

In task 7 are there two different sets of numbers for Battleship and Pentamino or are the numbers the same for letters in both problems?

The numeric values of the letters are the same for both puzzles.
Riad Khanmagomedov
Subject: Re: Riad Khanmagomedov's April Contest — 13th to 21st April 2024 @ 2024-04-19 1:40 PM (#32578 - in reply to #32576) (#32578) Top


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Puzlifouk - 2024-04-19 11:23 AM

Thanks for the answers... however, I haven't checked, but I thought it might be possible to form a polygon (possibly concave, which I suppose is permitted) by using the S clue twice and the NE clue once, for example, if the clues for a row are S and NE. If this were indeed possible, would it be allowed?

Concave polygon is allowed. It is also allowed to use a triangle (I received this question by mail). You can use the S twice and also NE if these clues are in the same row.

Edited by Riad Khanmagomedov 2024-04-19 1:43 PM
Mihalich
Subject: Re: Riad Khanmagomedov's April Contest — 13th to 21st April 2024 @ 2024-04-19 2:38 PM (#32579 - in reply to #32578) (#32579) Top




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Thanks for clarifying.
Carlos
Subject: RE: Riad Khanmagomedov's April Contest — 13th to 21st April 2024 @ 2024-04-19 6:38 PM (#32580 - in reply to #32543) (#32580) Top




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For the third optimizer (counting names), the words have to form a single connected component, isn't it? The rules don't mention it explicitly.
Riad Khanmagomedov
Subject: RE: Riad Khanmagomedov's April Contest — 13th to 21st April 2024 @ 2024-04-19 7:57 PM (#32581 - in reply to #32580) (#32581) Top


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Carlos - 2024-04-19 6:38 PM

For the third optimizer (counting names), the words have to form a single connected component, isn't it? The rules don't mention it explicitly.

You need to get a single connect crossword in which each word intersects with at least one other. That's right.
Leonardo024
Subject: Re: Riad Khanmagomedov's April Contest — 13th to 21st April 2024 @ 2024-04-20 1:22 AM (#32582 - in reply to #32543) (#32582) Top




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For the second optimizer, Easy as Opti; do circles between the two grids have to conform to both grids, even if it is left empty? i.e. is a row allowed to have something like (1) --1234 ( ) 1234-- (3) where the (x) represents a circled cell? Or should something like this always hold: --abcX (y) --dXef where the relative of X is fixed even if there is no digit in circle y? I hope my question makes sense. So if both grids have to conform (the second case), a solver can use this information in the way we could use it in puzzle 6 Easy as First and Second in the sense that if an empty circle is deducted to contain digit X if it was not empty, then the other grid should also conform to that digit X being in the first or second position, right?

Cheers :)

Edited by Leonardo024 2024-04-20 1:23 AM
Riad Khanmagomedov
Subject: Re: Riad Khanmagomedov's April Contest — 13th to 21st April 2024 @ 2024-04-20 1:50 AM (#32583 - in reply to #32582) (#32583) Top


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Leonardo024 - 2024-04-20 1:22 AM

For the second optimizer, Easy as Opti; do circles between the two grids have to conform to both grids, even if it is left empty? i.e. is a row allowed to have something like (1) --1234 ( ) 1234-- (3) where the (x) represents a circled cell? Or should something like this always hold: --abcX (y) --dXef where the relative of X is fixed even if there is no digit in circle y? I hope my question makes sense. So if both grids have to conform (the second case), a solver can use this information in the way we could use it in puzzle 6 Easy as First and Second in the sense that if an empty circle is deducted to contain digit X if it was not empty, then the other grid should also conform to that digit X being in the first or second position, right?

Cheers :)

The same as in puzzle 6. In the circle between the grids, the digit is common to both grids. If the circle between the grids is empty, you can find a digit from one grid and use it for the second.
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Subject: Re: Riad Khanmagomedov's April Contest — 13th to 21st April 2024 @ 2024-04-20 2:12 AM (#32584 - in reply to #32543) (#32584) Top




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Subject: Re: Riad Khanmagomedov's April Contest — 13th to 21st April 2024 @ 2024-04-20 4:15 AM (#32585 - in reply to #32543) (#32585) Top




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Thanks for the answer to problem 10 (By compass). And for problem 12 (Counting names), if we can choose the value of a letter in certain cases (D which can be 10 or 19, for example) I suppose that the choice made for a certain letter in a certain place must be the same depending on whether we consider the letter horizontally or vertically, right?
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