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debmohanty
Subject: Mock Test 14 @ 2010-02-17 11:10 AM (#10) (#10) Top



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Mock Test 14 will be on 28-Feb

Instruction Booklet available at here
lenson
Subject: Re: Mock Test 14 @ 2010-02-19 3:51 PM (#25 - in reply to #10) (#25) Top





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Nice! Who is creating the puzzles?
debmohanty
Subject: Re: Mock Test 14 @ 2010-02-19 7:02 PM (#28 - in reply to #25) (#28) Top



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There will be two parts
Part 1 by TTHsieh and Minfang Lin (mostly all Classic)
Part 2 by Oddest (mostly Standard Variations)

Last time when they created the mock for us, there was nice Chinese poem. Lets see what is there this time.
Himani
Subject: Re: Mock Test 14 @ 2010-02-21 10:14 PM (#46 - in reply to #10) (#46) Top




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cool :) is it going to be 24 hrs like this one?
Tejal Phatak
Subject: Re: Mock Test 14 @ 2010-02-21 10:41 PM (#47 - in reply to #10) (#47) Top




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@Himani,
Why didnt you give our Mock Test?
debmohanty
Subject: RE: Mock Test 14 @ 2010-02-22 3:36 PM (#49 - in reply to #10) (#49) Top



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Instruction booklet uploaded here
debmohanty
Subject: RE: Mock Test 14 @ 2010-02-26 10:02 AM (#70 - in reply to #10) (#70) Top



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After a very tough Mock13, we'll have Mock14 this weekend. There will be 2 Rounds consisting of Classics and Variations respectively.

Visit http://logicmastersindia.com/mock14 for details about timing and to download the booklets.

We hope you will enjoy Mock14 which is designed by our friends TTHsieh, Leaf Card and Oddest
zhergan
Subject: RE: Mock Test 14 @ 2010-02-27 12:35 PM (#81 - in reply to #10) (#81) Top




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Hi,

I want to ask something. In the instruction booklet it is stated that we have 50 minutes solving time for round1 and then 20 minutes resting time and at last another 50 minutes to solve round 2 which sums up to 120 minutes. From this statement I understand that a puzzler is only allowed to start round 2 just after 70 minutes passed from he clicked start round 1 button. Will start round 2 button be disabled during this 70 minutes. I think it should be. Because other way one may click it to deal more with round 2 puzzles including the variants not the classics. Or he/she may click this button before the completion of 20 minutes resting period which leads to an advantage among other puzzlers. I just wanted to clearify this point. Thanks for the competition,

Zafer
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Subject: Re: Mock Test 14 @ 2010-02-27 1:20 PM (#83 - in reply to #81) (#83) Top




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hello,zhergan
the "start round 2" buttom will available after 70 mins from you click "start round 1", if you don't start round 1,round 2 will not available.
debmohanty
Subject: RE: Mock Test 14 @ 2010-02-27 1:44 PM (#84 - in reply to #81) (#84) Top



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Short Answer - Start Round2 button will be disabled until 70 minutes are passed after Round1 started.

Here is what will happen exactly -

Before the mock starts (8PM IST 27-Feb) -> Round1, Round2 disabled

After mock start (after 8PM IST 27-Feb) -> Round1 enabled, Round2 disabled

After you start taking Round1 till first 50 minutes -> Round1 enabled, Round2 disabled

between 50 minutes and 70 minutes -> Round1 disabled, Round2 disabled

after 70 minutes -> Round1 disabled, Round2 enabled

after 120 minutes -> Round1 enabled, Round2 enabled, but you can't submit the answer

after mock ends (8pm IST 28-Feb) -> Round1 enabled, Round2 enabled, but you can't submit the answer

Show Examples will be enabled all the time.

Hope it is clear to everyone.
debmohanty
Subject: RE: Mock Test 14 @ 2010-02-27 1:56 PM (#85 - in reply to #81) (#85) Top



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Also, even if you finish round1 before 50 minutes, you can start Round2 only 70 minutes after your started round1.

So for example, if you finish all the sudokus in Round1 in 40 minutes after you started Round1, you have to wait for 10+20=30 minutes to start round2.


Also, during the 20 minutes break while you are waiting for Round2, you can click on the 'Refresh' button next to 'Show examples' to see how much time is left. Once 20 minutes is over, 'Start Round2' button will be enabled.
zhergan
Subject: RE: Mock Test 14 @ 2010-02-27 3:06 PM (#92 - in reply to #10) (#92) Top




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Thanks for the explanation:)

Regards,

Zafer
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Subject: Re: Mock Test 14 @ 2010-02-27 9:56 PM (#98 - in reply to #10) (#98) Top




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I suggest that the next time you have a multi-round mock test like this one, you treat the two rounds independently, so one can do one round early in the day and do the other round late in the day. There's no real reason not to have this flexibility given the "any time mock" system. It's not immediately apparent that the two rounds have to be taken together.
anupama_02
Subject: doubt @ 2010-02-27 11:59 PM (#100 - in reply to #10) (#100) Top




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i have a doubt

lets say i take the mock today with a username.which means i have all the puzzles with me.
and what if i login tmmrw with another ID and submit the answers.this way it looks like i have finished all the puzzles when i login the second time
anupama_02
Subject: mock test 14 @ 2010-02-28 12:00 AM (#101 - in reply to #10) (#101) Top




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have a doubt

lets say i take the mock today with a username.which means i have all the puzzles with me.
and what if i login tmmrw with another ID and submit the answers.this way it looks like i have finished all the puzzles when i login the second time
anupama_02
Subject: RE: Mock Test 14 @ 2010-02-28 12:03 AM (#102 - in reply to #10) (#102) Top




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i don't intend to do this but what if somebody does it like this
mmtronic
Subject: Re: Mock Test 14 @ 2010-02-28 1:09 AM (#103 - in reply to #10) (#103) Top


I started Round1 but (even after many refreshes) don't get page with the flash puzzles to enter answers... Any idea what's wrong? Thx
mmtronic
Subject: Re: Mock Test 14 @ 2010-02-28 1:18 AM (#104 - in reply to #103) (#104) Top


mmtronic - 2010-02-28 1:09 AM

I started Round1 but (even after many refreshes) don't get page with the flash puzzles to enter answers... Any idea what's wrong? Thx


OK, used Chrome and it works there... lost couple of minutes, sigh. :(
debmohanty
Subject: Re: Mock Test 14 @ 2010-02-28 5:26 AM (#105 - in reply to #98) (#105) Top



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Chris, whatever you mentioned about multiple rounds is definitely the best one.

Here is my personal opinion :-
First of all, I don't like multiple rounds, when it is Online. Players who solve on paper always loose time because of pdf password, printing etc.
I would always prefer a single longer round than multiple smaller rounds.

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Subject: RE: Mock Test 14 @ 2010-02-28 7:49 AM (#106 - in reply to #10) (#106) Top




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thank you for all players who participated in mock test 14 :)
for someone metioned why it has two rounds, the two rounds are designed by different people, it's difficult to calculate bouns if we put all puzzles together. at first, i only want to a mock test with classic sudoku, but i also know many players want to solve variants, so i ask another one to do variants. we want the test in 2 hours because it's better to test players ability in classic and variants, sustained attention in two 2 hours. Deb metioned printing, in my opinion, every player will spend time to print, it's fair. our original intention is everyone will enjoy our puzzles, and harvest by playing our puzzles, i will analysis round 1 after the test end.
debmohanty
Subject: RE: doubt @ 2010-02-28 5:43 PM (#111 - in reply to #100) (#111) Top



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anupama_02 - 2010-02-27 11:59 PM

i have a doubt

lets say i take the mock today with a username.which means i have all the puzzles with me.
and what if i login tmmrw with another ID and submit the answers.this way it looks like i have finished all the puzzles when i login the second time


These 'Mock Tests' provide opportunities to players to solve Sudokus in a time-constraint-ed environment. This will only help them in 'Actual' competitions.

With 'Any Time Mock', players can find ways to cheat the system, but in reality they will be cheating themselves.
Fred76
Subject: Re: Mock Test 14 @ 2010-02-28 6:37 PM (#112 - in reply to #10) (#112) Top



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I think there is a grid without solution ....

I do it 3 times and each time, there was a contradiction wich prevented me from continuing the resolution... :(

Fred

Edited by Fred76 2010-02-28 6:40 PM
debmohanty
Subject: Re: Mock Test 14 @ 2010-02-28 7:48 PM (#113 - in reply to #112) (#113) Top



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Fred, which grid are you referring to?
mtronic
Subject: Re: Mock Test 14 @ 2010-02-28 8:24 PM (#114 - in reply to #113) (#114) Top




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debmohanty - 2010-02-28 7:48 PM

Fred, which grid are you referring to?


I suppose it is XV. My solution was accepted, but there is one missing V sign between r1c1 and r2c1.
adityasaraf007
Subject: RE: Mock Test 14 @ 2010-02-28 8:44 PM (#115 - in reply to #10) (#115) Top




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Average Sudoku

Average Sudoku did not have a unique solution:

324 157 698
615 298 734
987 364 125
241 689 573
536 742 981
879 513 246
193 425 867
762 831 459
458 976 312

4 & 8 in Boxes 8 & 9 can be interchanged among themselves.

Please correct me if I am wrong.
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