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Poll TVC XV — 14th - 16th September
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Select the Tapa variations that you would want to see in TVC XV
We are preparing TVC XV puzzles considering result of the poll. Most voted 6 variations will be directly placed in TVC XV. You can choose upto 5 variations. Link to Tapa Variations List.
OptionResults
Tapa Skyscrapers [TVC List, No 114]14 Votes - [11.67%]
Tapa Double Back [TVC List, No 97]13 Votes - [10.83%]
Hexa Tapa [TVC List, No 1]13 Votes - [10.83%]
Kakuro Style Tapa [TVC List, No 116]12 Votes - [10%]
Twopa [TVC List, No 96]11 Votes - [9.17%]
Total False Tapa [TVC List, No 68]10 Votes - [8.33%]
Tapa: Complementary Pairs [TVC List, No 108]9 Votes - [7.5%]
Math Tapa [TVC List, No 3]9 Votes - [7.5%]
Magnetic Tapa [TVC List, No 75]8 Votes - [6.67%]
Double Tapa [TVC List, No 29]8 Votes - [6.67%]
Ugly Tapa [TVC List, No 123]7 Votes - [5.83%]
PhotoTapa [TVC List, No 106]6 Votes - [5%]
This is a multiple choice poll.

Administrator
Subject: Re: TVC XV — 14th - 16th September @ 2013-09-13 10:26 AM (#12682 - in reply to #12670) (#12682) Top


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Administrator - 2013-09-11 11:32 PM

Practice puzzles from Bram - Part 1
Part 2
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Subject: Re: TVC XV — 14th - 16th September @ 2013-09-14 8:34 AM (#12691 - in reply to #12430) (#12691) Top


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PuzzlePoints
1. Tapa [Regional]108
2. Hexa Tapa94
3. Outside Tapa89
4. Total False Tapa33
5. Tapa [Skyscrapers]72 + 77
6. Tapa Double Back48 + 63
7. Compass Tapa57 + 106
8. Kakuro-Style Tapa59 + 60
9. No-Islands Tapa72
10. Twopa31 + 31

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Contest Length : 75 minutes
Total Points : 1000
Bonus : 5 points per minute saved (Computed upto seconds)
Grace Period : 5 minutes
Penalty : 11 points per minute used (Computed upto seconds)


chaotic_iak
Subject: Re: TVC XV — 14th - 16th September @ 2013-09-14 12:24 PM (#12694 - in reply to #12430) (#12694) Top



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 How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? Fairly balanced
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? Just right
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did their point values reflect the difficulty/time spent? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


devarajand
Subject: Re: TVC XV — 14th - 16th September @ 2013-09-14 9:49 PM (#12698 - in reply to #12430) (#12698) Top




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In Compass TAPA is it a must to have a white cell below the arrow mark.
Grizix
Subject: Re: TVC XV — 14th - 16th September @ 2013-09-14 9:57 PM (#12699 - in reply to #12430) (#12699) Top




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 How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? Fairly balanced
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Average
 How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? A bit too many puzzles
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did their point values reflect the difficulty/time spent? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


devarajand
Subject: Re: TVC XV — 14th - 16th September @ 2013-09-14 10:13 PM (#12700 - in reply to #12430) (#12700) Top




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In Compass TAPA is it a must to have a white cell below the arrow mark.
prasanna16391
Subject: Re: TVC XV — 14th - 16th September @ 2013-09-15 12:32 AM (#12702 - in reply to #12700) (#12702) Top


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devarajand - 2013-09-14 10:13 PM

In Compass TAPA is it a must to have a white cell below the arrow mark.


I assume you're mentioning this for arrows pointing upward. If so, then no. You could have a shaded cell below the arrow mark that could be a dead-end right? The rule is only that, that cell can reach the star only in the direction of the arrow.
prasanna16391
Subject: Re: TVC XV — 14th - 16th September @ 2013-09-15 1:58 AM (#12703 - in reply to #12430) (#12703) Top


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Problems with the printer at the start, and one of the papers tearing on the way out isn't a good way to start off. Thankfully just lost about 2-3 minutes in this. The frustrations went away soon.

Its a good thing the Hexa Tapa was easy, if it was big plus hard, that'd be too much for a time-solving environment I think. As it is, it fitted in well and I really liked it. A big compass Tapa is scary. Really scary. Quite a relief when I saw that was right. The Double Back bottom was probably my favorite, just a few little double back deductions needed before the Tapa takes over, with a nice theme. The top one with the 3-3s affecting the ring around the middle was cool too. I usually am horrible at No Islands, but thankfully it went smoothly here.

Thanks for another fun test, Serkan.
Para
Subject: Re: TVC XV — 14th - 16th September @ 2013-09-15 2:02 PM (#12704 - in reply to #12703) (#12704) Top




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prasanna16391 - 2013-09-15 1:58 AM

I usually am horrible at No Islands, but thankfully it went smoothly here.



How can you be "usually horrible" at a new variant?
ukonet
Subject: Re: TVC XV — 14th - 16th September @ 2013-09-15 2:44 PM (#12705 - in reply to #12430) (#12705) Top




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 How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? Fairly balanced
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? A bit too few puzzles
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did their point values reflect the difficulty/time spent? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


prasanna16391
Subject: Re: TVC XV — 14th - 16th September @ 2013-09-15 3:16 PM (#12706 - in reply to #12704) (#12706) Top


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Para - 2013-09-15 2:02 PM

prasanna16391 - 2013-09-15 1:58 AM

I usually am horrible at No Islands, but thankfully it went smoothly here.



How can you be "usually horrible" at a new variant?


Well I took an hour on the example in the IB and about 25 minutes on your practice puzzle
kiwijam
Subject: Re: TVC XV — 14th - 16th September @ 2013-09-15 4:43 PM (#12708 - in reply to #12430) (#12708) Top




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In Twopa there are two solutions but either solution could be 10a or 10b. Does this mean that when submitting answers there are two correct options for entering 10a and 10b?
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Subject: Re: TVC XV — 14th - 16th September @ 2013-09-15 4:57 PM (#12709 - in reply to #12708) (#12709) Top


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kiwijam - 2013-09-15 4:43 PM

In Twopa there are two solutions but either solution could be 10a or 10b. Does this mean that when submitting answers there are two correct options for entering 10a and 10b?


Yes, it works exactly as you mention
Para
Subject: Re: TVC XV — 14th - 16th September @ 2013-09-15 7:41 PM (#12710 - in reply to #12430) (#12710) Top




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 How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? Fairly balanced
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? Just right
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did their point values reflect the difficulty/time spent? All puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


chaotic_iak
Subject: Re: TVC XV — 14th - 16th September @ 2013-09-15 8:15 PM (#12711 - in reply to #12430) (#12711) Top



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I'm curious whether Deb/Serkan has guarded against submissions like "1,2,3 / 1,2,3" for Twopa (basically the same answer for both grids)... ;)
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Subject: Re: TVC XV — 14th - 16th September @ 2013-09-15 8:34 PM (#12712 - in reply to #12711) (#12712) Top



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chaotic_iak - 2013-09-15 8:15 PM

I'm curious whether Deb/Serkan has guarded against submissions like "1,2,3 / 1,2,3" for Twopa (basically the same answer for both grids)... ;)
The score page does not handle such cases. But the admin's page has a warning about such cases, and we will be deleting one of the answers, if someone makes that mistake(?).
skywalker
Subject: Re: TVC XV — 14th - 16th September @ 2013-09-15 8:37 PM (#12713 - in reply to #12430) (#12713) Top


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 How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? Perfectly balanced
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? Just right
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did their point values reflect the difficulty/time spent? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


karzym
Subject: Re: TVC XV — 14th - 16th September @ 2013-09-16 2:34 AM (#12716 - in reply to #12430) (#12716) Top




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 How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? Perfectly balanced
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did their point values reflect the difficulty/time spent? Most puzzles were worth the right amount


Nice idea in Outside tapa (even if I haven't solved it in time ;_;).
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Subject: Re: TVC XV — 14th - 16th September @ 2013-09-16 4:42 AM (#12717 - in reply to #12430) (#12717) Top


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 How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? Perfectly balanced
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? Just right
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did their point values reflect the difficulty/time spent? All puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


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Subject: Re: TVC XV — 14th - 16th September @ 2013-09-16 5:27 AM (#12718 - in reply to #12430) (#12718) Top




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 How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? Perfectly balanced
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? A bit too many puzzles
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did their point values reflect the difficulty/time spent? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


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Subject: Re: TVC XV — 14th - 16th September @ 2013-09-16 7:53 AM (#12719 - in reply to #12430) (#12719) Top


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 How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? Fairly balanced
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? Just right
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did their point values reflect the difficulty/time spent? All puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


Rubben
Subject: Re: TVC XV — 14th - 16th September @ 2013-09-16 2:33 PM (#12723 - in reply to #12430) (#12723) Top




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 How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? Perfectly balanced
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? Just right
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did their point values reflect the difficulty/time spent? All puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


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Subject: Re: TVC XV — 14th - 16th September @ 2013-09-16 6:53 PM (#12724 - in reply to #12430) (#12724) Top




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 How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? Fairly balanced
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? Just right
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did their point values reflect the difficulty/time spent? Most puzzles were worth the right amount


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Subject: Re: TVC XV — 14th - 16th September @ 2013-09-16 11:00 PM (#12729 - in reply to #12430) (#12729) Top




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For people who don't always finish the test, do you tackle the giant puzzles first?
I usually avoid them entirely since its too much of a risk.
When you're almost finishing just to find out you went wrong somewhere - think of all that time spent on the one giant puzzle.
Ouch.
prasanna16391
Subject: Re: TVC XV — 14th - 16th September @ 2013-09-16 11:48 PM (#12730 - in reply to #12729) (#12730) Top


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tamz29 - 2013-09-16 11:00 PM

For people who don't always finish the test, do you tackle the giant puzzles first?
I usually avoid them entirely since its too much of a risk.
When you're almost finishing just to find out you went wrong somewhere - think of all that time spent on the one giant puzzle.
Ouch.


Since I've just recently finished TVC(s), I feel I'm still within the category who can answer this. The truth is I was never sure what to do with them. In the end I just settled on attempting the big puzzles first. In general, try to keep the easier ones for later so you can do a quick ending.

But more than that, its that I do a bigger one a little slower and more carefully. I took fairly long on the Hexa Tapa here for example, but I was fairly certain I was on the right track throughout. Thats why I'm fine with big ones as long as they're easy, for the competition format. The worst thing is solving for a while and then getting stuck somewhere midway and not knowing whether to guess and take a huge risk or just stay the course.
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