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Location: India | puneet87 - 2015-07-26 8:25 AM
In the Unscramble puzzle, is it about pairs having same characters or similar pattern in placement of characters or could be anything ?
As far I interpret, as it has been mentioned pair the figures, so it could be anything. |
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Location: India | In B3-As easy as ABC(numbers), shouldn't the rules read "Enter the letters from the given range into the grid so that each row and column AND Irregular region contains each letter exactly once" because I see letters of the given range in each irregular region too..... |
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Location: India | swaroop2011 - 2015-07-26 9:41 AM
puneet87 - 2015-07-26 8:25 AM
In the Unscramble puzzle, is it about pairs having same characters or similar pattern in placement of characters or could be anything ?
As far I interpret, as it has been mentioned pair the figures, so it could be anything.
I don't think it can be 'anything'. How can you use 'placement' of characters after 'unscrambling' it? The placement gets lost, right?
This example is just about the same set of alphabets.
kishy72 - 2015-07-26 10:36 AM
In B3-As easy as ABC(numbers), shouldn't the rules read "Enter the letters from the given range into the grid so that each row and column AND Irregular region contains each letter exactly once" because I see letters of the given range in each irregular region too.....
Yes, you're right. And not just Irregular Regions, its also the set of shaded cells.
Fixed Rule:
Enter the letters from the given range into the grid so that each row, column, thick-outlined region and the set of shaded cells contains each letter exactly once.
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Location: India | Rohan Rao - 2015-07-26 11:46 AM
swaroop2011 - 2015-07-26 9:41 AM
puneet87 - 2015-07-26 8:25 AM
In the Unscramble puzzle, is it about pairs having same characters or similar pattern in placement of characters or could be anything ?
As far I interpret, as it has been mentioned pair the figures, so it could be anything.
I don't think it can be 'anything'. How can you use 'placement' of characters after 'unscrambling' it? The placement gets lost, right?
This example is just about the same set of alphabets.
Thanks for clarifying.
I should have mentioned it clear, actually what I meant was it's not necessary that actual puzzle would be set of alphabets it could be anything else like numbers or images or anything.
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Location: India | Rohan Rao - 2015-07-26 11:46 AM
kishy72 - 2015-07-26 10:36 AM
In B3-As easy as ABC(numbers), shouldn't the rules read "Enter the letters from the given range into the grid so that each row and column AND Irregular region contains each letter exactly once" because I see letters of the given range in each irregular region too.....
Yes, you're right. And not just Irregular Regions, its also the set of shaded cells.
Fixed Rule:
Enter the letters from the given range into the grid so that each row, column, thick-outlined region and the set of shaded cells contains each letter exactly once.
Yup, this needs to be fixed. Will be soon. |
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Location: India | B3 - Rule fixed in updated IB.
Swaroop's interpretation about A3 Unscramble is correct that 1) placement of symbols does not matter 2) the actual puzzle may not have letters. |
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Location: India | If possible can we have page numbers in the actual puzzle booklet either in bottom right or top right corner, it would be really helpful. Thanks. |
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Location: India | Just a typo correction needed: In J3- Loop The Loops (Apply rules of J1,J2 slitherlink instead of K1,K2 Slitherlink). |
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Location: India | Lots of new variants - to be expected from Prasanna :)
Didn't quite follow the Square count & unscramble.
In unscramble, r we just looking at the same letters occurring in both the options?
And in square count what are the number of squares belong to? |
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Location: India | mjaipal - 2015-07-27 8:26 PM
In unscramble, r we just looking at the same letters occurring in both the options?
Yes.
mjaipal - 2015-07-27 8:26 PM
And in square count what are the number of squares belong to? The letter "A" belongs to 3 different squares. See image below.
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Location: Indonesia | In Statue Park it says:
Answer key: Enter the first three pentominos seen along the marked rows & columns. (– if not enough pentominos).
Since the bank is not necessarily the set of pentominoes, I suppose it should read "three shapes" (and "not enough shapes") instead? |
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Location: India | mjaipal - 2015-07-27 8:26 PM
Lots of new variants - to be expected from Prasanna :)
Out of the Classics, only Not Alone and Balance Loop haven't appeared in multiple LMI contests before (not counting Three-Point Snake since the additional rule from normal snake is minimal and actually can make things easier). Some of the variants are probably newish. Anyway, here are some practice links.
Outside LITS - http://www.gmpuzzles.com/blog/?s=Outside+LITS
Balance Loop - http://www.gmpuzzles.com/blog/?s=Balance+Loop
Not Alone - http://puzzleparasite.blogspot.in/search/label/Not%20Alone - Just one unless you have the enthusiasm to deduce which grid is the Not Alone from the Matchmaker, but that one has a really cool deduction as a break-in.
Statue Park, Gapped Kakuro & Loop The Loops have both appeared in past LMI Marathons, so solving those should get you more than enough practice on the two types. Other than that, some Loop The Loops will be on my blog, https://prasannaseshadri.wordpress.com/ and some Gapped Kakuros should be on GM Puzzles and Serkan's blog, https://yureklis.wordpress.com/ . Statue Park will be on GM Puzzles too. Full Tapa will be found in a past Tapa Variations Contest, and Fillomino [Stars] in Fillomino Fillia and on Palmer's blog, https://mellowmelon.wordpress.com/ .
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Location: India | Oh and for three point snake -
https://solvetheunsolvable.wordpress.com/2015/02/20/puzzle-26-snake/
http://www.gmpuzzles.com/blog/?s=three+point+Snake |
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Continuing with practice links, for Statue Park with unconventional banks, see the PDF in this post - https://mellowmelon.wordpress.com/2012/03/13/puzzle-pack-2/ |
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Location: India | chaotic_iak - 2015-07-27 10:11 PM
In Statue Park it says:
Answer key: Enter the first three pentominos seen along the marked rows & columns. (– if not enough pentominos).
Since the bank is not necessarily the set of pentominoes, I suppose it should read "three shapes" (and "not enough shapes") instead?
Yes. Will be changed soon. |
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Location: India | Square Count. A&D has 3 squares. B & E 2 each. But IB has AB, DE. |
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Location: India | Please count properly, it's all possible squares that can contain that alphabet.
A and B has 3 squares
D and E has 6 squares. |
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Location: India | devarajand - 2015-07-28 6:39 AM
Square Count. A&D has 3 squares. B & E 2 each. But IB has AB, DE.
Include 3x3/4x4/ and so on. With the image shown above for A, 3x3 and above isn't possible but it is for D, B and E (and C has many squares).
Just noting to anyone viewing this point of the forum - Practice links posted on page 1. |
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Location: India | Ok. Thanks
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Location: India | Thanks Deb |
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Location: India | Thanks Prasanna |
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Location: India | Thanks Prasanna for the links to puzzles. i loved the Not Alone puzzle, took few minutes to find a guaranteed entry point but it was very quick from thereon.
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Location: India | When I open IPC 2014 for sample it is asking for password. Pls let me know. |
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Location: India | @Irani
Use this link to download. (You will find the Password too).
http://logicmastersindia.com/lmitests/downloads.asp |
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