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Location: India | kishy72 - 2015-08-21 12:17 AM
Hi ghirsch. Thanks a lot for the starters.However,I am still not clear.How did you shade R2C5/C6/C7 and lots of other squares too.For instance ,why can't be a E present in R2C5 (East of South)
Because then S won't be South of E. Look at it both ways, simply. |
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Location: India | Thanks Swaroop and Prasanna ! I could proceed till here after which it's too difficult .Where am I missing the trick?
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Location: Germany | The upside down L tetromino must have an N in the top row. Then you get an NW-pair in row 3. |
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Location: India | rob - 2015-08-22 2:06 AM
The upside down L tetromino must have an N in the top row. Then you get an NW-pair in row 3.
I don't see how the former leads to the latter?! Where is the NW pair that you refer in row 3?How did you deduce that? |
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Location: India | Hi kishy,
I haven't solved completely but looking at your image, I can tell you next few steps immediately:
1) R5C9 and R5C10 --> N will come in that region no matter what and in one of these places. (you can see what happens if N will not come)
2) Because of this R5C12 will be cross.
3) Now this gives N-W pair in Row 3, N or W at R3 -C5C6 AND N OR W at R3 C11-12.
4) So this eliminates N at R3 C1C2.
5) So this gives "S" at R5C1 and "E" at R3C2. So that will give "S" at r8c3.
I believe it should go easy after this.
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Location: India | I can't thank you enough Swaroop.I have done and dusted the puzzle finally and that's a tremendous relief after breaking my head for close to 2 days.The way you explained about that NW Pair in point 3 made me see clearly what I failed to observe.... |
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Location: India | A Numberlink puzzle.I realized that this puzzle has many ways of completing itself.Where am I going wrong?
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Location: India | In addition,in the above puzzle,I had to use the constraint that all cells need to be visited by paths without which I found 'n' number of ways of completing this puzzle.Is there something critical that I am missing here? |
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Location: India | kishy72 - 2015-08-30 2:49 PM
A Numberlink puzzle.I realized that this puzzle has many ways of completing itself.Where am I going wrong?
This was a broken puzzle (I suppose you have taken this from one old LMI test)
Talking about Numberlink in general, this write up (Numberlink Primer) by Palmer will be an eye-opener for most. |
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This was a broken puzzle (I suppose you have taken this from one old LMI test)
Ah! I see.....It was taken from Nikoli Selection 2010 LMI monthly test.
Talking about Numberlink in general, this write up ( Numberlink Primer) by Palmer will be an eye-opener for most.
Thanks a lot Deb!I will look through this primer. |
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Location: India | I ran into some problems in the following Hitori puzzle with just a few steps away from completion.Despite being so close,I fail to see a logical continuation here. Can someone post the solution ?
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Location: India | kishy72 - 2015-08-31 6:45 PM
I ran into some problems in the following Hitori puzzle with just a few steps away from completion.Despite being so close,I fail to see a logical continuation here. Can someone post the solution ?
one quick next step: R1C2 will be shaded.
Reason: Either of R8C1 or R8C2 will be shaded so that means R7C2 is unshaded in any case. Hence above step. |
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Location: India | swaroop2011 - 2015-08-31 8:07 PM
kishy72 - 2015-08-31 6:45 PM
I ran into some problems in the following Hitori puzzle with just a few steps away from completion.Despite being so close,I fail to see a logical continuation here. Can someone post the solution ?
one quick next step: R1C2 will be shaded.
Reason: Either of R8C1 or R8C2 will be shaded so that means R7C2 is unshaded in any case. Hence above step.
Thank you ! I failed to see the 7 getting trapped.Done with the puzzle. |
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Location: India | A very difficult Hitori Puzzle ! Can someone please post the continuation here where I am stuck?
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Location: India | hi,
can you share the original puzzle link ?
I am confused whether what you have circled or not.
E.g. Is R6C5 "4" clue circled or not ? |
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Location: India | swaroop2011 - 2015-09-02 2:18 AM
hi,
can you share the original puzzle link ?
I am confused whether what you have circled or not.
E.g. Is R6C5 "4" clue circled or not ?
Sorry.You are right.It's not something which I deduced logically.I forgot to erase it. |
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Location: India | R6c5 "4:" clue should be unshaded only. |
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Location: India | If u see all the digits above and below the numbers at R7C5/7/9/11. for each number the digits above and below is same.. so if R6C5 is shaded then for the other numbers if any of the above or
below clue is shaded the white cells get closed at top |
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Location: India | ashaash11ash - 2015-09-02 9:18 AM
If u see all the digits above and below the numbers at R7C5/7/9/11. for each number the digits above and below is same.. so if R6C5 is shaded then for the other numbers if any of the above or
below clue is shaded the white cells get closed at top
Indeed.I missed this totally.The puzzle is still very sticky even after this deduction.But it helped a lot and I completed it .Thanks. |
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Location: India | Just gone through the puzzle solving techniques. It's just amazing and very knowledgeable. I have learned a lot from it. |
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Location: India | The incorrectly done Mochikoro puzzle where all islands are not connected solved in the last few mins of the test .Apparently,there are ways one can gain points by solving incorrectly too !
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Location: India | I too gained points by solving incorrectly, in a more indirect way. I solved the Japanese Sums 25 pointer incorrectly by placing a digit by mistake where it shouldn't be, which enabled me to reach an incorrect solution and move to the 105 pointer much faster than I would have if I had solved correctly. Considering I solved the 105 pointer with 1 minute to spare, I'd say the mistake gained me 80 points  |
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Location: India | kishy72 - 2015-12-22 6:58 PM
The incorrectly done Mochikoro puzzle where all islands are not connected solved in the last few mins of the test .Apparently,there are ways one can gain points by solving incorrectly too !
prasanna16391 - 2015-12-22 11:24 PM
I too gained points by solving incorrectly, in a more indirect way. I solved the Japanese Sums 25 pointer incorrectly by placing a digit by mistake where it shouldn't be, which enabled me to reach an incorrect solution and move to the 105 pointer much faster than I would have if I had solved correctly. Considering I solved the 105 pointer with 1 minute to spare, I'd say the mistake gained me 80 points
haha interesting things. |
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Location: United States | Not sure where this question belongs, but I'm curious how much time a competitive puzzler might typically take to double-check their entries of the answer key during a timed competition. I just lost 78 points in GP Round 1 because I didn't double-check my entries. Do most people always set aside time at the end to double-check? Or after each puzzle? Or just continue to plow through the remaining puzzles and hope for the best?
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Location: India | For me I just plow through and hope for the best. My accuracy has improved in general with more experience though. |
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