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Location: India | rakesh_rai - 2015-11-28 6:18 PM
Thanks for your feedback. Does 'Neat' (in this context) mean OK?
Its not been a long time since this is my first puzzle test as an author. I think the 'region' puzzles in general work faster with intuitive solving.
No. Neat as in, it was crisp, good and overall a nice pleasant solve. Puzzles were not 'extraordinarily fantastic', but it is an excellent set for a PR round. I liked it better than Numbers, Evergreens and my own, Classics.
Yes, its your first puzzle test, but I meant in general... long after Prime Exotica and mock-tests!
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Location: India | @Puzlifouk, @rob: I agree that a high number of puzzles were on the easier side. Personally, I take the positive that most solvers will get a chance to try out all puzzles in the set, which rarely happens.
@wgryciuk: I didn't expect anyone would select "too many hard puzzles" but you have. Can you please share your thoughts about the hard puzzles? |
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Location: India | kishy72 - 2015-11-28 5:50 PM
Had any expectations or predictions going for me ? :)
Yes. I thought you would get 70. I thought you would miss out on SG3, SG4 and SG4/5 (exactly the three you did in the end). But you got 76. I am happy I was wrong.
debmohanty - 2015-11-28 3:23 PM
Very nicely balanced round, after the hard Numbers round and very hard Evergreens.
Thanks Deb! |
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Location: India | rakesh_rai - 2015-11-28 6:31 PM
kishy72 - 2015-11-28 5:50 PM
Had any expectations or predictions going for me ? :)
Yes. I thought you would get 70. I thought you would miss out on SG3, SG4 and SG4/5 (exactly the three you did in the end ). But you got 76. I am happy I was wrong.
Well you were not wrong entirely.If you see my submission timings ,you will notice that I submitted SG3 in the dying moments!So...you predicted well :) |
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Location: Germany | rob - 2015-11-28 5:25 PM
That was fun, thank you! Most of this was just quickly drawing in the solution. I guessed on the large Yin Yang, and the 4/5 galaxies was an "exploratory" solve.
I could see that one being quite frustrating for players who breeze through everything and then get stuck...
I've since looked at these puzzles again: I missed reasonable steps on both puzzles. That fourth Yin-Yang did a good job showing some different logic. And the 4/5 is fair (for me, it felt quite lucky that I got it out in reasonable time).
By the way I had more trouble with Spiral Galaxies 3 than 4. |
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Location: India | | How well did the variants represent the theme of the test ? | variations represented the theme well | | | What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? | Just right | | | What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? | Very nice | | | Which set of puzzles did you like the most? | Fillomino | |
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| | How well did the variants represent the theme of the test ? | variations represented the theme well | | | What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? | Just right | | | What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? | Very nice | | | Which set of puzzles did you like the most? | Shikaku | | | Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? | Most puzzles were worth the right amount | | | What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? | Just right | |
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Location: United States | | How well did the variants represent the theme of the test ? | variations represented the theme well | | | What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? | Just right | | | What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? | Fairly Nice | | | Which set of puzzles did you like the most? | Area Division | | | Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? | Most puzzles were worth the right amount | | | What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? | Just right | |
Thanks Rakesh, this test was very fun. A few of the puzzles were too easy to guess at (e.g. the fillominos which had very few hidden polyominoes), but overall the test was nicely done. Spiral galaxy 3 was very tough though, I think I spent 15-20 minutes on that one alone. |
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Location: France | | How well did the variants represent the theme of the test ? | variations represented the theme well | | | What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? | Just right | | | What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? | Very nice | | | Which set of puzzles did you like the most? | Spiral Galaxies | | | Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? | Most puzzles were worth the right amount | | | What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? | Just right | |
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Location: Hong Kong | | How well did the variants represent the theme of the test ? | variations represented the theme well | | | What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? | Too many easy puzzles | | | What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? | Fairly Nice | | | Which set of puzzles did you like the most? | Fillomino | | | Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? | Most puzzles were worth the right amount | | | What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? | Just right | |
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Location: Japan | | How well did the variants represent the theme of the test ? | variations represented the theme well | | | What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? | Just right | | | What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? | Very nice | | | Which set of puzzles did you like the most? | Area Division | | | Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? | Many puzzles were worth too much or too little | | | What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? | Just right | |
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Location: United Kingdom | | How well did the variants represent the theme of the test ? | variations represented the theme well | | | What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? | Too many easy puzzles | | | What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? | Very nice | | | Which set of puzzles did you like the most? | Area Division | | | Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? | Many puzzles were worth too much or too little | | | What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? | Just right | |
One particularly generous puzzle was the 10 point Shikaku. And the "easy" Spiral Galaxies didn't seem to be that easy. In fact, I solved them in the order 1, 4, 3, 2 despite starting them in the right order. But, to be fair, I'm not desperately good at Spiral Galaxies.
Overall though, fun test - the first one I've ever finished! |
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Location: Estonia | | How well did the variants represent the theme of the test ? | variations represented the theme well | | | What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? | Just right | | | What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? | Fairly Nice | | | Which set of puzzles did you like the most? | Fillomino | | | Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? | Many puzzles were worth too much or too little | | | What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? | Just right | |
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Location: Hungary | | How well did the variants represent the theme of the test ? | variations represented the theme well | | | What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? | Just right | | | What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? | Very nice | | | Which set of puzzles did you like the most? | Spiral Galaxies | | | Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? | Most puzzles were worth the right amount | | | What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? | I have a different complaint | |
"I have a different complaint" - the grid lines were not visible on the paper when I printed the puzzles, for Fillomino (incl variant) and Shikaku puzzles. Probably a matter of too thin grid lines or so. Used a Win 7 laptop and some Canon InkJet - I do not typically have similar problems elsewhere. Thanks. |
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Location: India | Zormac - 2015-11-30 1:07 AM
"I have a different complaint" - the grid lines were not visible on the paper when I printed the puzzles, for Fillomino (incl variant) and Shikaku puzzles. Probably a matter of too thin grid lines or so. Used a Win 7 laptop and some Canon InkJet - I do not typically have similar problems elsewhere. Thanks.
Check this: http://logicmastersindia.com/forum/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=1177&...
Did you open the booklet in browser (Chrome) and print?
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Location: Hungary | Yes that's what happened - I hope I'll remember to next time save a copy and print from a non-browser viewer - thanks.
Rohan Rao - 2015-11-30 1:09 AM
Zormac - 2015-11-30 1:07 AM
"I have a different complaint" - the grid lines were not visible on the paper when I printed the puzzles, for Fillomino (incl variant) and Shikaku puzzles. Probably a matter of too thin grid lines or so. Used a Win 7 laptop and some Canon InkJet - I do not typically have similar problems elsewhere. Thanks.
Check this: http://logicmastersindia.com/forum/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=1177&...
Did you open the booklet in browser (Chrome ) and print?
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Location: India | | How well did the variants represent the theme of the test ? | variations represented the theme well | | | What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? | Just right | | | What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? | Very nice | | | Which set of puzzles did you like the most? | Spiral Galaxies | | | Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? | Many puzzles were worth too much or too little | | | What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? | Just right | |
Very nice set of puzzles. The spiral galaxies were very nice and I felt were a bit undervalued as compared to some of the other sets like Shikaku.
Many puzzles had a very intuitive solve and it would have been nice to have a couple of puzzles in which the most intuitive option would not lead to the correct solution.
But having said that this set was a big relief after the previous rounds :)
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Location: Romania | | How well did the variants represent the theme of the test ? | variations represented the theme well | | | What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? | Just right | | | What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? | Very nice | | | Which set of puzzles did you like the most? | Area Division | | | Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? | Most puzzles were worth the right amount | | | What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? | Just right | |
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Location: India | ghirsch - 2015-11-29 8:48 AM
Thanks Rakesh, this test was very fun. A few of the puzzles were too easy to guess at (e.g. the fillominos which had very few hidden polyominoes), but overall the test was nicely done. Spiral galaxy 3 was very tough though, I think I spent 15-20 minutes on that one alone.
drsteve - 2015-11-29 8:34 PM
One particularly generous puzzle was the 10 point Shikaku. And the "easy" Spiral Galaxies didn't seem to be that easy. In fact, I solved them in the order 1, 4, 3, 2 despite starting them in the right order. But, to be fair, I'm not desperately good at Spiral Galaxies.
Overall though, fun test - the first one I've ever finished!
amitsowani - 2015-11-30 12:01 PM
Very nice set of puzzles. The spiral galaxies were very nice and I felt were a bit undervalued as compared to some of the other sets like Shikaku.
Many puzzles had a very intuitive solve and it would have been nice to have a couple of puzzles in which the most intuitive option would not lead to the correct solution.
But having said that this set was a big relief after the previous rounds :)
Thanks for your feedback!
The 1 and 2 pointers were mostly giveaways. However I still saw some solvers spend a lot of time on YY1 and FL1.
I had kept the more familiar variations - Fillomino and Shikaku - easy (maybe, too easy). AD4 and YY4 were also in the same category. The objective was that everyone should be able to complete these sets and sample the other variants also. The spiral galaxies caused a few problems for most solvers, as expected. Although I did not expect SG3 to cause more problems than SG4, it did.
Another aspect which I maintained is that points for every variation (leaving the exploratory ones aside) would be almost equal. This is probably one reason SH4 got 10 (generous) points. It worked out well in the end, as most solvers were able to get Fillomino, Shikaku, Area Division and Yin Yang out of the way and still had enough time to grapple with the Spiral Galaxies and the two puzzles in the end. Some of them succeeded, others did not. But a majority of the participants were able to "sample" all variations.
Yes. It would have been nice to have a couple of puzzles in which the most intuitive option would not lead to the correct solution. And, I could have had more hidden polyominoes in the Fillomino. Valid points both. Also, at one point, I had considered increasing the difficulty level in FL3 and SH3. But ultimately decided against it.
Finally, glad to see the word 'fun' included in most of the feedback. That aspect is very important. And, it always feels good to complete a test with bonus! |
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Location: India | | How well did the variants represent the theme of the test ? | variations represented the theme well | | | What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? | Just right | | | Which set of puzzles did you like the most? | Fillomino | | | What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? | I have a different complaint | |
Lines were not visible. |
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Location: India | ExtensionBased on a few requests, this test is being extended by 24 hours. See submission page for exact timing.
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| | How well did the variants represent the theme of the test ? | variations represented the theme well | | | What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? | Just right | | | What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? | Very nice | | | Which set of puzzles did you like the most? | Yin Yang | | | Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? | Most puzzles were worth the right amount | | | What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? | Just right | |
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Location: United Kingdom | | How well did the variants represent the theme of the test ? | variations represented the theme well | | | What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? | Just right | | | What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? | Very nice | | | Which set of puzzles did you like the most? | Shikaku | | | Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? | Most puzzles were worth the right amount | | | What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? | Just right | |
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Location: Thailand | Was busy last night so I thought I'd be skipping this test - but then found out about the extension today..so..
Thanks for the extension!
Also didn't have grid lines for Shikaku, ABC and Fillomino - forum said I should save and print - will remember that next time.
Personal experience: spiral galaxy 4 being easier than 3,
shikaku 4 way too easy for 10 points,
spiral 4/5 regions took me 100 seconds to actually solve (and not guess) - for 14(!) points!?
stuck on spiral galaxy 2 and 3 forever...
Need to do more tentai shows next time round ;)
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