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Poll TVC XVIII — 16th January - 19th January 2016
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Select the Tapa variations that you would want to see in TVC XVIII
We are preparing TVC XVIII puzzles considering result of the poll. 6 Most voted variations will be directly placed in TVC XVIII. You can choose upto 5 variations. Link to Tapa Variations List.
OptionResults
Tapa Connection (page 12)36 Votes - [16.36%]
Tapa LITS (page 49)34 Votes - [15.45%]
Tapa - Like Loop (page 34)30 Votes - [13.64%]
Different Tapa (page 50)26 Votes - [11.82%]
Not Alone Tapa (page 37)20 Votes - [9.09%]
Tapa Scrabble (page 18)18 Votes - [8.18%]
Tapa Chess (page 14)17 Votes - [7.73%]
Full Tapa (page 31)17 Votes - [7.73%]
Tapa Possible (page 15)14 Votes - [6.36%]
Telescopic Tapa (page 7)8 Votes - [3.64%]
This is a multiple choice poll.

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Subject: Re: TVC XVIII — 16th January - 19th January 2016 @ 2016-01-13 3:46 PM (#20643 - in reply to #20632) (#20643) Top


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Logic Masters Indian announces Tapa Variations Contest XVIII

Date: 16th - 19th January 2016

Length: 75+5 minutes

IB and Submission Link : http://logicmastersindia.com/TVC/XVIII/


prasanna16391
Subject: Re: TVC XVIII — 16th January - 19th January 2016 @ 2016-01-13 5:41 PM (#20644 - in reply to #20530) (#20644) Top


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In Black Hole Tapa, it says Black Holes may touch each other diagonally. Does that mean they cannot touch orthogonally? I feel that's a better way to put it.
yureklis
Subject: Re: TVC XVIII — 16th January - 19th January 2016 @ 2016-01-13 5:59 PM (#20645 - in reply to #20644) (#20645) Top


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prasanna16391 - 2016-01-13 5:41 PM

In Black Hole Tapa, it says Black Holes may touch each other diagonally. Does that mean they cannot touch orthogonally? I feel that's a better way to put it.


Yes you are right, my mistake. I wrote this one as considering the Tapa have just one Black Hole in each row and column, but the actuall puzzle may have more than once. So, Black Holes may touch each other orthogonally and diagonally. I'll rewrite the sentence.
chaotic_iak
Subject: Re: TVC XVIII — 16th January - 19th January 2016 @ 2016-01-13 6:29 PM (#20646 - in reply to #20645) (#20646) Top



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I assume, in the example for Different Tapa, R4C1 should be shaded?
yureklis
Subject: Re: TVC XVIII — 16th January - 19th January 2016 @ 2016-01-13 6:38 PM (#20647 - in reply to #20646) (#20647) Top


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chaotic_iak - 2016-01-13 6:29 PM

I assume, in the example for Different Tapa, R4C1 should be shaded?


Absolutely right, it will be added in v2
Para
Subject: Re: TVC XVIII — 16th January - 19th January 2016 @ 2016-01-14 11:13 AM (#20650 - in reply to #20530) (#20650) Top




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First part of the TVC XVIII practise set is now online: http://puzzleparasite.blogspot.com.au/2016/01/tvc-xviii-practise-pa...
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Subject: Re: TVC XVIII — 16th January - 19th January 2016 @ 2016-01-15 5:53 AM (#20654 - in reply to #20647) (#20654) Top


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An updated version of IB uploaded with following 2 changes.

yureklis - 2016-01-13 5:59 PM

prasanna16391 - 2016-01-13 5:41 PM

In Black Hole Tapa, it says Black Holes may touch each other diagonally. Does that mean they cannot touch orthogonally? I feel that's a better way to put it.


Yes you are right, my mistake. I wrote this one as considering the Tapa have just one Black Hole in each row and column, but the actuall puzzle may have more than once. So, Black Holes may touch each other orthogonally and diagonally. I'll rewrite the sentence.


yureklis - 2016-01-13 6:38 PM

chaotic_iak - 2016-01-13 6:29 PM

I assume, in the example for Different Tapa, R4C1 should be shaded?


Absolutely right, it will be added in v2
Para
Subject: Re: TVC XVIII — 16th January - 19th January 2016 @ 2016-01-15 8:46 AM (#20655 - in reply to #20530) (#20655) Top




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Here is the second part of practise puzzles: http://puzzleparasite.blogspot.com.au/2016/01/tvc-xviii-practise-pa...

I hope they are helpful. Enjoy.
Kota
Subject: Re: TVC XVIII — 16th January - 19th January 2016 @ 2016-01-15 9:02 AM (#20656 - in reply to #20530) (#20656) Top




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I don't know how to answer Tapa-Like Loop. For example, if there is an answer key in Row 2 of the example in IB, which will be right, 212 or 23?
brecher92
Subject: Re: TVC XVIII — 16th January - 19th January 2016 @ 2016-01-15 8:47 PM (#20658 - in reply to #20530) (#20658) Top




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For the 4x4 tapa, if there is an arrow at the left of the grids, do I enter the number of cells from just the leftmost grid, or from the two grids all the way across?
yureklis
Subject: Re: TVC XVIII — 16th January - 19th January 2016 @ 2016-01-15 11:56 PM (#20659 - in reply to #20658) (#20659) Top


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brecher92 - 2016-01-15 8:47 PM

For the 4x4 tapa, if there is an arrow at the left of the grids, do I enter the number of cells from just the leftmost grid, or from the two grids all the way across?


Each of the grid will have own arrows. So for your example, just for the lefmost grid.
yureklis
Subject: Re: TVC XVIII — 16th January - 19th January 2016 @ 2016-01-15 11:59 PM (#20660 - in reply to #20656) (#20660) Top


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Kota - 2016-01-15 9:02 AM

I don't know how to answer Tapa-Like Loop. For example, if there is an answer key in Row 2 of the example in IB, which will be right, 212 or 23?


We missed the exception of this one in the IB. We'll update of the IB and we'll add it to PB with example to avoid any confussion. Thanks for your remark.

The answer format will be: "Write the lengths of the separate line segments lying towards the marked rows/columns."
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Subject: Re: TVC XVIII — 16th January - 19th January 2016 @ 2016-01-16 5:24 AM (#20662 - in reply to #20530) (#20662) Top


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Announcements

Password protected puzzle has 11 pages (including a cover page with points table)
Time bonus will be computed after you click 'Claim Bonus'
Penalty will be given irrespective of correctness of submission



Contest Length : 75 minutes
Total Points : 1000
Bonus : 4 points per minute saved (Computed upto seconds)
Grace Period : 5 minutes
Penalty : 6 points per minute used (Computed upto seconds)


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Subject: Re: TVC XVIII — 16th January - 19th January 2016 @ 2016-01-16 6:44 AM (#20663 - in reply to #20530) (#20663) Top


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Contest has started.
Pashetka
Subject: Re: TVC XVIII — 16th January - 19th January 2016 @ 2016-01-16 2:01 PM (#20664 - in reply to #20530) (#20664) Top




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Password is wrong. I can't open Puzzle Booklet
aldentea
Subject: Re: TVC XVIII — 16th January - 19th January 2016 @ 2016-01-16 5:06 PM (#20665 - in reply to #20530) (#20665) Top




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The captions of Not Alone Tapa(2) are printed "8A,8B,8C" instead of "8D,8E,8F"...
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Subject: Re: TVC XVIII — 16th January - 19th January 2016 @ 2016-01-16 5:11 PM (#20666 - in reply to #20665) (#20666) Top


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aldentea - 2016-01-16 5:06 PM

The captions of Not Alone Tapa(2) are printed "8A,8B,8C" instead of "8D,8E,8F"...
Fixed.
rob
Subject: Re: TVC XVIII — 16th January - 19th January 2016 @ 2016-01-16 7:32 PM (#20667 - in reply to #20530) (#20667) Top


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 How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? Perfectly balanced
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? Just right
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


Thanks Fatih and Serkan for another great set of puzzles. I didn't quite manage to finish in time this time around, will have to wait for other results to judge that. It certainly felt like solving closer to the limit than on the previous contest.

One genuine mistake due to reading a 115 as 15 in the second Tapa-Like Loop, should have noticed it wasn't unique that way. Some of the logic on the hard Loop escaped me, but I really enjoyed it on the resolve.

The second Tapa LITS was a very satisfying solve, though considering my points/time, it seems it took me too long to see the classic Tapa connectivity break. Maybe there was a quicker way in via LITS? Scrabble was slow, Connection fast (one of my favourites).

I found the Not Alone Tapas to be quite strange but very fun to solve. I'm learning to really like Dissected Tapa, Black Hole had some very elegant logic of which I missed half... 4x4 is also really interesting, somewhat similar to Dissected. I wasted a bit of time on that one, having to restart after finding almost the correct solution.

A great set, thank you again!
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Subject: Re: TVC XVIII — 16th January - 19th January 2016 @ 2016-01-16 9:00 PM (#20668 - in reply to #20530) (#20668) Top


 How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? Fairly balanced
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? Just right
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Many puzzles were worth too much or too little
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


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Subject: Re: TVC XVIII — 16th January - 19th January 2016 @ 2016-01-16 9:27 PM (#20669 - in reply to #20530) (#20669) Top




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 How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? Fairly balanced
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


brecher92
Subject: Re: TVC XVIII — 16th January - 19th January 2016 @ 2016-01-16 10:41 PM (#20670 - in reply to #20530) (#20670) Top




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For Black Hole, can a single cell contain multiple black holes? And if so, are they additive?
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Subject: Re: TVC XVIII — 16th January - 19th January 2016 @ 2016-01-17 7:57 AM (#20674 - in reply to #20530) (#20674) Top


 How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? Perfectly balanced
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? Just right
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


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Subject: Re: TVC XVIII — 16th January - 19th January 2016 @ 2016-01-17 9:10 AM (#20675 - in reply to #20530) (#20675) Top




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 How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? Perfectly balanced
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? Just right
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


Many thanks to the authors.
I found the second LITs was toughest (pointwise).

I'm lucky I didn't finish 5 minutes earlier, because then I would have clicked "Claim Bonus" and stopped.
But because there's no bonus to claim in the last 5 minutes, instead I thought I should double-check a couple of answer keys, specifically the 4x4 which I'd filled in on one grid only. And quickly spotted an answer entry error, so was able to fix it and avoid losing 40 points!
ghirsch
Subject: Re: TVC XVIII — 16th January - 19th January 2016 @ 2016-01-17 12:13 PM (#20676 - in reply to #20530) (#20676) Top




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 How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? Perfectly balanced
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? Just right
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


An LMI player
Subject: Re: TVC XVIII — 16th January - 19th January 2016 @ 2016-01-17 3:32 PM (#20677 - in reply to #20530) (#20677) Top


 How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? Perfectly balanced
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? A bit too many puzzles
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


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