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Poll TVC XIX— 9th December - 12th December 2016
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Select the Tapa variations that you would want to see in TVC XIX
We are preparing TVC XIX puzzles considering result of the poll. 6 Most voted variations will be directly placed in TVC XIX. Link to Tapa Variations List.
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Lonely Tapa (page 53)34 Votes - [13.33%]
Tapa Pentopool (page 4)30 Votes - [11.76%]
Thermometer Tapa (page 15)27 Votes - [10.59%]
Tapa Chain (page 44)22 Votes - [8.63%]
Tapa Row (page 23)21 Votes - [8.24%]
Anglers Tapa (page 29)20 Votes - [7.84%]
Math Tapa (page 3)19 Votes - [7.45%]
Latin Tapa (page 50)19 Votes - [7.45%]
Tapa Golem Grad (page 52)19 Votes - [7.45%]
Tapa: Complementary Pairs (page 41)16 Votes - [6.27%]
Radar Tapa (page 51)15 Votes - [5.88%]
3/4 Tapa (page 7)13 Votes - [5.1%]
This is a multiple choice poll.

Joo M.Y
Subject: Re: TVC XIX— 6th February - 8th February 2016 @ 2016-02-05 3:03 PM (#20923 - in reply to #20678) (#20923) Top




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What about TVC XX? Also postponed by a week? (Feb 27-29)
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Subject: Re: TVC XIX— 13th February - 16th February 2016 @ 2016-02-07 2:38 AM (#20935 - in reply to #20678) (#20935) Top





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Is TVC XIX overlapping with Converse?
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Subject: Re: TVC XIX— 13th February - 16th February 2016 @ 2016-02-07 1:41 PM (#20943 - in reply to #20678) (#20943) Top


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Yes that is the plan as of now. The LMI schedule is pretty full right now so any potential delay to a particular contest may cause an overlap. We did consider that, to the general audience, having TVC this weekend would have caused an overlap with the Sudoku GP anyway, so we thought it will just be two contests on another weekend. We will also be making some extensions during overlap weekends, as announced for the SM Converse Round in its discussion thread.
Para
Subject: Re: TVC XIX— 13th February - 16th February 2016 @ 2016-02-11 12:21 PM (#20956 - in reply to #20678) (#20956) Top




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Is the Instruction Booklet coming out soon?
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Subject: Re: TVC XIX— 9th December - 12th December 2016 @ 2016-11-21 12:16 PM (#22086 - in reply to #20678) (#22086) Top


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Logic Masters Indian announces Tapa Variations Contest XIX

(Revised) Dates: 9th - 12th December 2016

Length: 75+5 minutes

IB and Submission Link : http://logicmastersindia.com/TVC/XIX/


chaotic_iak
Subject: Re: TVC XIX— 9th December - 12th December 2016 @ 2016-11-21 5:08 PM (#22087 - in reply to #20678) (#22087) Top



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Well, that was an interestingly long delay, but hey, puzzles.

Black Hole Tapa: Just as confirmation, black holes may touch/share a side, right? (Only applies if N >= 2, of course.)
Power of Tapa: I suppose a clue of 0 means it's just ignored? (Like the 2-0 clue at R2C1 having only a single segment of 2.)
yureklis
Subject: Re: TVC XIX— 9th December - 12th December 2016 @ 2016-11-24 8:57 PM (#22098 - in reply to #22087) (#22098) Top


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chaotic_iak - 2016-11-21 5:08 PM

Well, that was an interestingly long delay, but hey, puzzles.

Black Hole Tapa: Just as confirmation, black holes may touch/share a side, right? (Only applies if N >= 2, of course.)
Power of Tapa: I suppose a clue of 0 means it's just ignored? (Like the 2-0 clue at R2C1 having only a single segment of 2.)


Sure, there is not any restriction of touching, so you are right if N is bigger than 2, blackholes can touch each other from the side.

If the zero in clue R2C1 was the exponential power of 2, the clue would be 1, but in this case the clue as it seems, so it means 2-0, and it should be blackened just 2 adjacent cells.
chaotic_iak
Subject: Re: TVC XIX— 9th December - 12th December 2016 @ 2016-11-25 6:58 AM (#22099 - in reply to #20678) (#22099) Top



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Yeah, I meant the question is whether a 0 that is not in an exponential clue is just ignored ("0 adjacent cells"). Looks like yes.
Joo M.Y
Subject: Re: TVC XIX— 9th December - 12th December 2016 @ 2016-12-02 9:46 AM (#22132 - in reply to #20678) (#22132) Top




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New practice puzzle for Black Hole Tapa from Anderson Wang :
https://qzqxq.wordpress.com/2016/12/01/puzzle-23-black-hole-tapa/
yureklis
Subject: Re: TVC XIX— 9th December - 12th December 2016 @ 2016-12-06 1:41 AM (#22155 - in reply to #22132) (#22155) Top


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A clarification of Lonely Tapa. The instruction says "each orthogonally connected are of empty cells can contain at most one clue cell." So if it says "at most" it means there might be some empty cell blocks that don't connect any clue cells, however in the example all empty cell blocks connect to exactly one clue. So, please check the new example, because there might appear some empty cell or blocks that doesn't have any connection with clue cells.

Lonely Tapa Example



Edited by yureklis 2016-12-06 1:51 AM
ghirsch
Subject: Re: TVC XIX— 9th December - 12th December 2016 @ 2016-12-06 7:53 AM (#22158 - in reply to #20678) (#22158) Top




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For Tapa 1-n, is it required that the numbers of cells in each row/column must be in the range 1-n (as the name seems to suggest)? Or can there be rows/columns with 0 shaded cells?
deepti.garg
Subject: Re: TVC XIX— 9th December - 12th December 2016 @ 2016-12-09 1:48 PM (#22173 - in reply to #20678) (#22173) Top




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Hi,
I want to practice TAPA classic and variants, can you recommend some puzzle book which I can order online to practice.
rob
Subject: Re: TVC XIX— 9th December - 12th December 2016 @ 2016-12-09 3:01 PM (#22176 - in reply to #22173) (#22176) Top


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deepti.garg - 2016-12-09 1:48 PM

Hi,
I want to practice TAPA classic and variants, can you recommend some puzzle book which I can order online to practice.


Sounds like Serkan's Tapa and Variations book is just what you're looking for: http://www.gmpuzzles.com/store/classic-and-variations-series

Otherwise the TVC archives provide plenty of practice material: http://logicmastersindia.com/TVC/
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Subject: Re: TVC XIX— 9th December - 12th December 2016 @ 2016-12-09 9:58 PM (#22179 - in reply to #20678) (#22179) Top


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yureklis
Subject: Re: TVC XIX— 9th December - 12th December 2016 @ 2016-12-10 12:00 AM (#22181 - in reply to #20678) (#22181) Top


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Some practice puzzles collected by James: http://forum.ukpuzzles.org/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=1619
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Subject: Re: TVC XIX— 9th December - 12th December 2016 @ 2016-12-10 3:15 AM (#22182 - in reply to #20678) (#22182) Top




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Why are all answers marked as wrong? (Or just all 7 people who have submitted so far did not get any correct answers, but I doubt that!)
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Subject: Re: TVC XIX— 9th December - 12th December 2016 @ 2016-12-10 4:05 AM (#22183 - in reply to #22182) (#22183) Top


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Jacoblance - 2016-12-10 3:15 AM

Why are all answers marked as wrong? (Or just all 7 people who have submitted so far did not get any correct answers, but I doubt that!)
We had not (yet) entered the solution keys in the score page. Have done that now. Please check score page again.
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Subject: Re: TVC XIX— 9th December - 12th December 2016 @ 2016-12-10 8:33 AM (#22184 - in reply to #20678) (#22184) Top



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 How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? Fairly balanced
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? Just right
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


All nice puzzles, no complaints. Okay, maybe Chain Tapa should be named Cyclic Tapa (#105, p40), but otherwise no problem. All good puzzles; memorable ones are Arrow Tapa, the second Anglers Tapa, and Tapa Pentopool (which I typoed because I thought the last grid was 10x10, not 11x11).
mstang
Subject: Re: TVC XIX— 9th December - 12th December 2016 @ 2016-12-10 9:11 AM (#22185 - in reply to #20678) (#22185) Top





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 How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? Fairly balanced
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? A bit hard
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? A bit too many puzzles
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


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Subject: Re: TVC XIX— 9th December - 12th December 2016 @ 2016-12-11 6:52 AM (#22187 - in reply to #20678) (#22187) Top



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 How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? Perfectly balanced
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 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? Just right
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


My favorites were 1-n, Arrows and Anglers. Thanks!
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Subject: Re: TVC XIX— 9th December - 12th December 2016 @ 2016-12-11 1:02 PM (#22190 - in reply to #20678) (#22190) Top


 How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? Fairly balanced
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? Just right
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


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Subject: Re: TVC XIX— 9th December - 12th December 2016 @ 2016-12-11 8:39 PM (#22192 - in reply to #20678) (#22192) Top




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 How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? Perfectly balanced
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Too many hard puzzles
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? Just right
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


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Subject: Re: TVC XIX— 9th December - 12th December 2016 @ 2016-12-11 10:30 PM (#22193 - in reply to #20678) (#22193) Top


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 How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? Perfectly balanced
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? Just right
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Many puzzles were worth too much or too little
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


rob
Subject: Re: TVC XIX— 9th December - 12th December 2016 @ 2016-12-11 11:47 PM (#22194 - in reply to #20678) (#22194) Top


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Thanks Fatih and Serkan, that was a lovely set of puzzles.

I struggled quite a bit with the Chain Tapa, and breezed through the Power of Tapa, but other than that things felt pretty even.

Now I look forward to the next one!
Para
Subject: Re: TVC XIX— 9th December - 12th December 2016 @ 2016-12-12 10:29 AM (#22195 - in reply to #20678) (#22195) Top




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 How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? Fairly balanced
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? Just right
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? I have a different complaint


I didn't really have a good run. There were a lot of errors on my side. I had to restart a number of puzzles.

The grey cells in the Chain Sudoku were too light for me. I couldn't really tell the difference between white and grey very well on my print. Also a minor nitpick, it wasn't technically the right variant as that was a Cyclic Tapa.
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