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Math - 8th to 13th Mar - Sudoku Mahabharat & ISC Qualifier
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Subject: Re: Math - 8th to 12th Mar - Sudoku Mahabharat & ISC Qualifier @ 2019-03-08 5:51 PM (#26728 - in reply to #26718) (#26728) Top


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Location: India

Test Booklets


Updated Instruction Booklet is now available. (Corrections to Remainder sudoku 9x9 grid, Remainder Sudoku 9x9 solution and Product Frame 6x6 solution)

Password protected Puzzle Booklet is also available for download

http://logicmastersindia.com/SM/201903/

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Subject: Re: Math - 8th to 12th Mar - Sudoku Mahabharat & ISC Qualifier @ 2019-03-08 6:01 PM (#26729 - in reply to #26728) (#26729) Top


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Location: India
The test has started.
mstang
Subject: Re: Math - 8th to 12th Mar - Sudoku Mahabharat & ISC Qualifier @ 2019-03-09 12:13 AM (#26732 - in reply to #26718) (#26732) Top





Posts: 74
202020
Location: United States
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? X Sums Sudoku
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount


The 15 and 16 point ones seemed really tough, but the rest was doable and fun!

Edited by mstang 2019-03-09 12:14 AM
Sedho
Subject: Re: Math - 8th to 12th Mar - Sudoku Mahabharat & ISC Qualifier @ 2019-03-09 10:31 AM (#26733 - in reply to #26718) (#26733) Top




Posts: 18

Location: Philippines
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Difference N Sudoku
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount


Gyuszi13
Subject: Re: Math - 8th to 12th Mar - Sudoku Mahabharat & ISC Qualifier @ 2019-03-09 7:09 PM (#26734 - in reply to #26718) (#26734) Top




Posts: 17

Location: Hungary
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Difference N Sudoku
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount


kishy72
Subject: Re: Math - 8th to 12th Mar - Sudoku Mahabharat & ISC Qualifier @ 2019-03-10 1:30 PM (#26735 - in reply to #26718) (#26735) Top


SM 2020 (Math) Author

Posts: 417
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Location: India
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Too many hard puzzles
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Product Frame Sudoku
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount


An insanely hard set just as I expected.Math rounds over the years have always turned out to be difficult for me and this year was no exception.With Pranav and Rakesh authoring this year, I expected a touch challenge but this one was crazy hard and on a different level . It exceeded my difficulty expectations by a mile.

In the contest, I started with the highest pointer (Remainder 9*9) and stubbornly kept solving it until I finished.I saw the break-in very late and even after that ,the solve dragged on.I sticked to my approach of consistently solving the higher pointers no matter what without worrying about the time or the points gathered.I enjoyed the set very much but my only disappointment and complaint is that there was not enough reward for solving the higher pointers.I might as well have completed 17 sudokus(barring the 16 pointer) in 60-70 mins and still ended up on 84 instead of adopting the harder approach that I did.With the Remainder 9*9 difficulty have been 2 or 3 notches below, set would have much better personally.

A fantastic test otherwise with all sudokus highly logical and clean as a whistle.I intend to solve some again fully logically.Favourites are Product frame (10 points), X-sums (8 points).Rest were good as well.

Thanks a lot Rakesh and Pranav for a fantastic test !
TiiT
Subject: Re: Math - 8th to 12th Mar - Sudoku Mahabharat & ISC Qualifier @ 2019-03-10 2:45 PM (#26736 - in reply to #26718) (#26736) Top




Posts: 139
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Location: Estonia
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Too many hard puzzles
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Fairly Nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Classic Sudoku
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount


Too much math. Not so much about sudoku solving.
ingmanc
Subject: Re: Math - 8th to 12th Mar - Sudoku Mahabharat & ISC Qualifier @ 2019-03-10 7:26 PM (#26737 - in reply to #26718) (#26737) Top




Posts: 42
2020
Location: ITALY
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? X Sums Sudoku
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount


udoroh
Subject: Re: Math - 8th to 12th Mar - Sudoku Mahabharat & ISC Qualifier @ 2019-03-11 2:47 AM (#26738 - in reply to #26718) (#26738) Top




Posts: 17

Location: Poland
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Fairly Nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Classic Sudoku
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount


geronimo92
Subject: Re: Math - 8th to 12th Mar - Sudoku Mahabharat & ISC Qualifier @ 2019-03-11 7:08 PM (#26739 - in reply to #26718) (#26739) Top




Posts: 8

Location: France
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Too many hard puzzles
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Average
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? X Sums Sudoku
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount


harmeet
Subject: Re: Math - 8th to 13th Mar - Sudoku Mahabharat & ISC Qualifier @ 2019-03-12 4:07 PM (#26740 - in reply to #26718) (#26740) Top


SM 2020 (Converse and Odd Even) Author

Posts: 85
20202020
Location: India
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Too many medium difficult puzzles
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Little Killer Sudoku
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount


A tough set but that's what a math episode ought to be. Enjoyed little killer-2 during the test and difference-2 post test. Thanks Pranav and Rakesh.
MrLiang
Subject: Re: Math - 8th to 13th Mar - Sudoku Mahabharat & ISC Qualifier @ 2019-03-12 8:24 PM (#26741 - in reply to #26718) (#26741) Top





Posts: 44
2020
Location: Thailand
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Product Frame Sudoku
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount


swaroop2011
Subject: Re: Math - 8th to 13th Mar - Sudoku Mahabharat & ISC Qualifier @ 2019-03-13 3:12 AM (#26742 - in reply to #26718) (#26742) Top



PR 2020 (Shading and Loops) Author

Posts: 668
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Location: India
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Too many hard puzzles
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Product Frame Sudoku
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount


Well I am not that good at the Math variants. But with some pre-prep I did decent in this test. Couldn't attempt last 2 Sudokus, they were definitely very tough. Very nice set overall.
Thanks Rakesh and Pranav.
aashay
Subject: Re: Math - 8th to 13th Mar - Sudoku Mahabharat & ISC Qualifier @ 2019-03-13 9:07 AM (#26743 - in reply to #26718) (#26743) Top




Posts: 46
2020
Location: India
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Too many medium difficult puzzles
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Difference N Sudoku
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount


A great set of Math variants from Rakesh and Pranav. I really enjoyed solving them. Got stuck in the Difference-N sudoku for too long, which ruined my test.

Thanks for the fun contest!
vijaya_rajan
Subject: Re: Math - 8th to 13th Mar - Sudoku Mahabharat & ISC Qualifier @ 2019-03-13 4:20 PM (#26744 - in reply to #26718) (#26744) Top




Posts: 22
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Location: India
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Too many medium difficult puzzles
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Fairly Nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Difference N Sudoku
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount


Entering comments is optional. However, comments entered in this box will be saved only if you post in forum. It is perfectly valid if you choose to post anonymously. My aim in each round is to solve all classics, all 6x6 variants and at least one 9x9 variant. Will I ever get there ? Not much hope as even the 6x6 variants elude me !!
vopani
Subject: Re: Math - 8th to 13th Mar - Sudoku Mahabharat & ISC Qualifier @ 2019-03-13 4:49 PM (#26745 - in reply to #26718) (#26745) Top


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Posts: 739
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Location: India
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Too many hard puzzles
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Fairly Nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Difference N Sudoku
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount


Nice sudokus, but too hard for SM. I think there was far too much of math.

Favourite sudokus: Difference 9x9, XSums 9x9, Difference 6x6

Thanks Pranav and Rakesh!
Anu G
Subject: Re: Math - 8th to 13th Mar - Sudoku Mahabharat & ISC Qualifier @ 2019-03-13 9:56 PM (#26746 - in reply to #26718) (#26746) Top




Posts: 17

Location: India
When I saw the IB, I could not understand even the questions, and rued the fact that I last studied Math 4 decades ago. But as I started to solve, I started understanding it, and solved the IB (except the remainder). During the contest,my printer got stuck, and I lost 10 minutes getting it to work. So I managed to solve only the classics and the Product. The classics were much easier than last time. Thanks for that. And I actually find the Math variants very interesting, and will enjoy solving them offline. Very interesting puzzles.
Administrator
Subject: Re: Math - 8th to 13th Mar - Sudoku Mahabharat & ISC Qualifier @ 2019-03-13 11:21 PM (#26747 - in reply to #26718) (#26747) Top


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Location: India

Extension


The test is extended for another 24 hours, based on request by Shaheer Rahman. It ends at 11:59 PM (midnight) IST on 14th March.

An LMI player
Subject: Re: Math - 8th to 13th Mar - Sudoku Mahabharat & ISC Qualifier @ 2019-03-14 1:36 AM (#26748 - in reply to #26718) (#26748) Top


 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Too many hard puzzles
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Little Killer Sudoku
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Many puzzles were worth too much or too little


rvarun
Subject: Re: Math - 8th to 13th Mar - Sudoku Mahabharat & ISC Qualifier @ 2019-03-14 8:59 AM (#26749 - in reply to #26718) (#26749) Top




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Location: India
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Too many hard puzzles
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? X Sums Sudoku
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount


I personally loved the round with Math being my favourite variant. I got stuck in few high pointers and as a result could not solve more puzzles this time around. Thanks Rakesh and Pranav for the good set of puzzles.
BeatTheHouse
Subject: Re: Math - 8th to 13th Mar - Sudoku Mahabharat & ISC Qualifier @ 2019-03-14 11:11 AM (#26750 - in reply to #26718) (#26750) Top




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Location: India
When will the result come? How many tests does one need to participate in, in order to get ratings?
Administrator
Subject: Re: Math - 8th to 13th Mar - Sudoku Mahabharat & ISC Qualifier @ 2019-03-14 12:35 PM (#26751 - in reply to #26718) (#26751) Top


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Location: India
BeatTheHouse - When will the result come? How many tests does one need to participate in, in order to get ratings?


The current results are available at http://logicmastersindia.com/SM/201903/score.asp

Also, the ratings shall be updated soon. Participation in even one recent test (out of the last twelve rated tests) makes you eligible for ratings.
Administrator
Subject: Re: Math - 8th to 13th Mar - Sudoku Mahabharat & ISC Qualifier @ 2019-03-15 12:55 AM (#26755 - in reply to #26718) (#26755) Top


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Location: India
The test is now over.

Congratulations to Tantan Dai (top position in a LMI contest for the first time), Hideaki Jo, Takuya Sugimoto and Endo Ken for taking the top four places.

Amongst Indian participants, Congratulations to Rohan Rao, Kishore Kumar, Suvarna and Shaheer Rahman for taking the top 4 places.

Of the 275 participants, 95 were from India, 27 from Japan, 21 from USA, 17 from Italy and Poland, 16 from France. Ganghyun Lee (Korea) was the first to start the test while Kshitij Kumar (India) was the last participant to start the test. 12 participants completed the set within the allotted time. The median score of the test was ~37.

Thanks Pranav Kamesh and Rakesh Rai for the (hard) puzzles!

Participants may share feedback on the results page and rate the puzzles on the contest page.

An LMI player
Subject: Re: Math - 8th to 13th Mar - Sudoku Mahabharat & ISC Qualifier @ 2019-03-15 2:31 AM (#26758 - in reply to #26718) (#26758) Top


 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Too many hard puzzles
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Average


rakesh_rai
Subject: Re: Math - 8th to 13th Mar - Sudoku Mahabharat & ISC Qualifier @ 2019-03-15 1:38 PM (#26759 - in reply to #26718) (#26759) Top



Mean Minis (2020) Author

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Thanks to everyone who has shared feedback. Some responses below:

mstang - The 15 and 16 point ones seemed really tough, but the rest was doable and fun!
Agree

kishy72 - I enjoyed the set very much but my only disappointment and complaint is that there was not enough reward for solving the higher pointers.I might as well have completed 17 sudokus(barring the 16 pointer) in 60-70 mins and still ended up on 84 instead of adopting the harder approach that I did.With the Remainder 9*9 difficulty have been 2 or 3 notches below, set would have much better personally.
Agree mostly. Probably we could have added more balance to the set. But we did not want to go with more than 15 points for any puzzle. I think this may be the first time we have gone to 16 for a single puzzle in SM.

Tiit - Too much math. Not so much about sudoku solving.
Agree with the first point. This was a Math round, maybe we went a little overboard. But there was enough sudoku solving too.

harmeet - A tough set but that's what a math episode ought to be. Enjoyed little killer-2 during the test and difference-2 post test.
Thank you.

swaroop2011 - Well I am not that good at the Math variants. But with some pre-prep I did decent in this test. Couldn't attempt last 2 Sudokus, they were definitely very tough. Very nice set overall.
Agree and Thank you. What was the pre-prep you did?

aashay - A great set of Math variants from Rakesh and Pranav. I really enjoyed solving them. Got stuck in the Difference-N sudoku for too long, which ruined my test.
Thanks. We have two discards in SM, so it is ok if you do not do well in a test.

vijaya rajan - My aim in each round is to solve all classics, all 6x6 variants and at least one 9x9 variant. Will I ever get there ? Not much hope as even the 6x6 variants elude me !!
It will happen soon. Also, you may want to adjust your aim and make it higher and that may help you achieve your original aim.

vopani - Nice sudokus, but too hard for SM. I think there was far too much of math.
Agree. We wanted to be fair to Maths and not just stick to addition and multiplication variants. We are keeping general difficulty level little higher this time. That is the reason we have only five variants this year, not six. But with the (high) level of solvers in India, we cannot say anything is too hard for SM.

Anu G - When I saw the IB, I could not understand even the questions, and rued the fact that I last studied Math 4 decades ago. But as I started to solve, I started understanding it, and solved the IB (except the remainder). During the contest,my printer got stuck, and I lost 10 minutes getting it to work. So I managed to solve only the classics and the Product. The classics were much easier than last time. Thanks for that. And I actually find the Math variants very interesting, and will enjoy solving them offline. Very interesting puzzles.
Please feel free to discuss if you get stuck in any sudoku anywhere (except the printer getting stuck). Glad that you like the math variants. Not very common.

rvarun - I personally loved the round with Math being my favourite variant. I got stuck in few high pointers and as a result could not solve more puzzles this time around.
Please do try out the rest outside the contest.
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