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Tapa Train - 25th Dec to 14th Jan
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Subject: Re: Tapa Train - 25th Dec to 14th Jan @ 2022-01-16 11:12 PM (#30213 - in reply to #30209) (#30213)Quote Reply Top


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Realshaggy - 2022-01-14 4:57 PM

Great contest with great puzzles! I can't say much about the scoring system since I didn't thought about it since it was pretty clear that I will probably never get any points.

Just two small remarks:
1.) Forcing feedback is always bad in my opinion. Especially in the exact moment after you finished the puzzle and want to see the results you get forced to press some emoji or whatever. You can bypass it, but for me it still feels annoying and the quality of feedback you get that way is questionable at best.
2.) The star system for quality feedback is also not good in my opinion, since a lot of popular sites use a 1-5 stars rating for difficulty (e.g. GMpuzzles and the LMG portal).

Oh and I'd love to see replay in real-time added.


Thank you for your kind words and feedback.

Regarding forcing feedback, as you said it can be bypassed pretty easily. We think from the perspective of authors that it is worth keeping it this way, even if the quality isn't the best, because people providing their puzzles freely generally like to see feedback and a possibility to engage with the solvers. We would rather appeal to solvers to use the feedback system productively with this in mind. This stance can change if more people feel the feedback system needs changes.

We will be changing the star system to make things clearer.

We are discussing/looking into the possibility and implementation of real-time replays.
swaroop2011
Subject: Re: Tapa Train - 25th Dec to 14th Jan @ 2022-01-18 12:13 AM (#30214 - in reply to #30211) (#30214)Quote Reply Top



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ropeko - 2022-01-16 6:18 PMThat was a great contest with beautiful Tapas! Thank you!And the contest was very well doable just with the mobile phone, even the 20x20 puzzle.In future it would be great, if there is more time to solve the puzzles, i.e. every 30h a new puzzle but the puzzle counts during the next 5 days, since not everybody has time to solve them on a daily basis.As IHNN already mentioned, the scoring A for 1-100 rank is in my opinion suboptimal, because, luckily, of the high number of participants. It would motivate more if each participant get some points and not only the best solvers.The replay button is a great feature to learn from the top solvers or just to see the different approaches.I‘m looking forward for the next puzzle types :)!

Thank you for your feedback. I am glad you enjoyed the ride.

-- We already have regular contests which last for 5 days or a week and we wanted a different flavor of the contest with this. Said that we will consider this suggestion and have an internal discussion if any changes are needed.

-- Each participant does get some points, that is what B is for. B is the puzzle points on solving the puzzle successfully and is not dependent on your ranking. Do note that your total points is equal to A+B.

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Subject: Re: Tapa Train - 25th Dec to 14th Jan @ 2022-01-28 2:15 PM (#30245 - in reply to #30188) (#30245)Quote Reply Top




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Subject: Re: Tapa Train - 25th Dec to 14th Jan @ 2022-01-29 5:18 PM (#30260 - in reply to #30245) (#30260)Quote Reply Top



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Subject: Re: Tapa Train - 25th Dec to 14th Jan @ 2022-02-08 6:02 PM (#30301 - in reply to #30188) (#30301)Quote Reply Top



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Solve video for 20x20 by Ashish Kumar - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_4ukAng4874
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Subject: Re: Tapa Train - 25th Dec to 14th Jan @ 2022-02-10 3:10 AM (#30303 - in reply to #30188) (#30303)Quote Reply Top





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Subject: Re: Tapa Train - 25th Dec to 14th Jan @ 2022-05-07 11:25 AM (#30628 - in reply to #30188) (#30628)Quote Reply Top




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I know the contest is long over, but I am getting "Wrong solution" for several of my correct solutions. It seems this happens whenever I submit a wrong solution first - all subsequent submissions are then deemed wrong. This is still the case even if restarting from scratch ("delete all").
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Subject: Re: Tapa Train - 25th Dec to 14th Jan @ 2022-05-10 5:18 AM (#30635 - in reply to #30628) (#30635)Quote Reply Top


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Nizz - 2022-05-07 11:25 AM

I know the contest is long over, but I am getting "Wrong solution" for several of my correct solutions. It seems this happens whenever I submit a wrong solution first - all subsequent submissions are then deemed wrong. This is still the case even if restarting from scratch ("delete all").
We are still trying to debug this issue and have not found anything missing at our end.

Lets take one specific puzzle for example : Tapa 13
Can you submit the puzzle again and after you get the "Wrong Solution" message, can you please share a screenshot of your solved grid?
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Subject: Re: Tapa Train - 25th Dec to 14th Jan @ 2022-05-10 10:21 PM (#30637 - in reply to #30635) (#30637)Quote Reply Top




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I'm getting a similar error. I had it happen with Tapa 2, though I don't think I submitted a wrong solution unless I did so by accident.





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Subject: Re: Tapa Train - 25th Dec to 14th Jan @ 2022-05-16 4:19 PM (#30639 - in reply to #30188) (#30639)Quote Reply Top




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I think this is the correct solution.
Nizz
Subject: Re: Tapa Train - 25th Dec to 14th Jan @ 2022-05-19 1:47 AM (#30642 - in reply to #30635) (#30642)Quote Reply Top




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Administrator - 2022-05-10 1:18 AM

Nizz - 2022-05-07 11:25 AM

I know the contest is long over, but I am getting "Wrong solution" for several of my correct solutions. It seems this happens whenever I submit a wrong solution first - all subsequent submissions are then deemed wrong. This is still the case even if restarting from scratch ("delete all").
We are still trying to debug this issue and have not found anything missing at our end.

Lets take one specific puzzle for example : Tapa 13
Can you submit the puzzle again and after you get the "Wrong Solution" message, can you please share a screenshot of your solved grid?


Tapa 13 was a bad choice for this. I don't know if you chose that becase it was unfinished on my account, but it turns out my solution was indeed wrong, and after correcting it the submission went through.

Tapa 2 on the other hand, I have checked and double checked. See attached screenshot



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Subject: Re: Tapa Train - 25th Dec to 14th Jan @ 2022-05-19 2:29 AM (#30643 - in reply to #30188) (#30643)Quote Reply Top



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Thanks for sharing. As per our current knowledge and based on others feedback, Tapa 2 is the only one giving trouble with answer verification. Rest all puzzles are working as intended.
We haven't yet identified why this is happening with only Tapa 2. We did verify the solution string again but something else is going on apparently. We are still investigating. But otherwise I hope you enjoyed all the puzzles and the contest.
Nizz
Subject: Re: Tapa Train - 25th Dec to 14th Jan @ 2022-05-19 7:33 PM (#30644 - in reply to #30643) (#30644)Quote Reply Top




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The same happens for Tapa 6 as well. Probably 7, 9, 14 and 15 as well, though I haven't checked them recently



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swaroop2011
Subject: Re: Tapa Train - 25th Dec to 14th Jan @ 2022-05-20 7:15 AM (#30645 - in reply to #30188) (#30645)Quote Reply Top



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I did all of them again. You are right. Currently five puzzles are having troubles. Puzzle No 2, 6, 7, 14, 15. Hopefully we can figure out why.
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Subject: Re: Tapa Train - 25th Dec to 14th Jan @ 2022-05-23 9:26 AM (#30647 - in reply to #30188) (#30647)Quote Reply Top




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I am a beginner and wants to solve sudoku
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Subject: Re: Tapa Train - 25th Dec to 14th Jan @ 2022-06-26 8:07 PM (#30769 - in reply to #30188) (#30769)Quote Reply Top



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Tapa solution check issue faced for few puzzles is now fixed. Thank you for your patience.
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