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debmohanty |
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Location: India | utkaarsh - 2011-05-30 7:46 PM Range will be mentioned. Missed it putting for the example.for the Puzzle "TRID", will the range be given or we wil need to identify while sovling the puzzle, in the example it is not mentioned | ||
swaroop2011 |
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PR 2020 (Shading and Loops) Author Posts: 668 Location: India | debmohanty - 2011-05-31 5:39 AM swaroop2011 - 2011-05-30 10:46 PM No. 1) AREA OCCUPATION (Filomino) Is it like size if 4*4 so the numbers used are 1-4. "Size of the grid" and "digits used" aren't related. Btw, I hope you (and others) have checked out Fillomino-Fillia swaroop2011 - 2011-05-30 10:46 PM You are asking me to reveal about the puzzle in the competition. I'm not going to do that. 2)Different Sums sums by coincidence are 0,1,2,3,4,5,6. but is it always true or there may be a gap in bigger puzzles like 0,1,2,5,...... swaroop2011 - 2011-05-30 10:46 PM The outside border also serves as wall. 3)Tiger in the woods rule says that path is allowed to take a turn after hitting either a black square or a wall .. but at r6c3 teh path is changing.. please check it !!!!! Here is another example hey deb, FOR TIGER IN THE WOODS in the puzzle booklet the point where it is changing is hitting the path not the wall.[r6c3] | ||
Tejal Phatak |
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Posts: 81 Location: India | Swaroop, I guess in the IB example, the path starts from the circle and not from the other end. | ||
debmohanty |
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Location: India | Swaroop, the path starts at R3C1 as Tejal mentioned. Also the boundary wall is missing from the image, if that is your point. Here is the redrawn image Note that in the championship it is not necessary to mark the start or end. If the path correctly is drawn, you will get full points. | ||
swaroop2011 |
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PR 2020 (Shading and Loops) Author Posts: 668 Location: India | hey thanks deb, in the IB the start point is given at r4c5 and circle is given at r3c1 thats why it was confusing..(in solution). now its very clear with above image. | ||
swaroop2011 |
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PR 2020 (Shading and Loops) Author Posts: 668 Location: India | 1)FOUR SNAILS i think it can have multiple solutions... the N of newyork is possible at r5c1,r4c1 and r6c1. also the N and S of athens can be placed in r4c4,r4c5,r4c6,r5c5,r5c6 differently.. 2)NEWS in the solution it is given wrong and i am not getting proper solution.. in r2c3 it is W and r1c4 it is E but the rule says " directions in region should satisfy their positions with respect to each other".. please clarify it..?? | ||
debmohanty |
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Location: India | swaroop2011 - 2011-05-31 6:12 PM 1)FOUR SNAILS i think it can have multiple solutions... the N of newyork is possible at r5c1,r4c1 and r6c1. also the N and S of athens can be placed in r4c4,r4c5,r4c6,r5c5,r5c6 differently.. I think you are missing the given "-" There are dashes at R5C1 R5C5 You can't put a letter where dash is already present | ||
swaroop2011 |
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PR 2020 (Shading and Loops) Author Posts: 668 Location: India | debmohanty - 2011-05-31 6:16 PM swaroop2011 - 2011-05-31 6:12 PM 1)FOUR SNAILS i think it can have multiple solutions... the N of newyork is possible at r5c1,r4c1 and r6c1. also the N and S of athens can be placed in r4c4,r4c5,r4c6,r5c5,r5c6 differently.. I think you are missing the given "-" There are dashes at R5C1 R5C5 You can't put a letter where dash is already present hey srry for that it was not visible in my print out .. and what about four snails? | ||
debmohanty |
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Location: India | swaroop2011 - 2011-05-31 6:23 PM and what about four snails? The puzzle, solution and rules match perfectly to me. | ||
swaroop2011 |
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PR 2020 (Shading and Loops) Author Posts: 668 Location: India | debmohanty - 2011-05-31 6:26 PM swaroop2011 - 2011-05-31 6:23 PM and what about four snails? The puzzle, solution and rules match perfectly to me. can u clarify how the region r1c3,r1c4,r2c3 satisfies the rules please..! | ||
Tejal Phatak |
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Posts: 81 Location: India | Swaroop, in "NEWS"... For W-E, it need not necessarily be in the same row. In a specific region, if you are to place W-E, just make sure W is on the left hand-side and E on the right hand-side. It may or may not be in the same row. Similarly, if you see R2C4 and R3C5, N-S they are not placed in the same column. I hope that answers your doubt. | ||
swaroop2011 |
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PR 2020 (Shading and Loops) Author Posts: 668 Location: India | Tejal Phatak - 2011-05-31 6:39 PM Swaroop, in "NEWS"... For W-E, it need not necessarily be in the same row. In a specific region, if you are to place W-E, just make sure W is on the left hand-side and E on the right hand-side. It may or may not be in the same row. Similarly, if you see R2C4 and R3C5, N-S they are not placed in the same column. I hope that answers your doubt. ya thank you..so it's similar for W and S /N and E .. | ||
Tejal Phatak |
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Posts: 81 Location: India | Yes | ||
vivek572 |
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Posts: 1 Location: India | Will the puzzles in the Final be exactly as shown in the Puzzle Types booklet, or will there also be variations of those mentioned? Also, will there be only one puzzle per type, or a range of different sizes/variations? | ||
debmohanty |
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Location: India | Puzzle types will be exactly same. No more variations of even those mentioned. In Round1 and Round2, there will be 1 puzzle from each type. In Round3, there will be 2 puzzles from each type, one easy and one not-so We'll publish an Information Booklet which will specify all these and the points distribution. It will take few days. | ||
zalak |
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Posts: 23 Location: India | Organisers - 2011-05-28 3:45 PM rakesh_rai - 2011-05-28 12:17 PM ABC Connection: Do all cells have to be used, or can some cells remain empty? Paint-By-Number: Are the clues in the same order as seen from the given direction? ABC Connection - You don't need to know if all cells have to be used to solve the puzzle Paint-By-Number - Yes, clues are in order. Will change the instruction. I had the same question for Anglers - Do all the cells have to be used or some may remain empty? Is the answer same? ;) | ||
vopani |
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WSPC Organizer Posts: 739 Location: India | @Zalak Count the sum of given digits outside. If its equal to the number of cells, then no blank cells :D | ||
zalak |
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Posts: 23 Location: India | Rohan Rao - 2011-06-05 9:29 PM @Zalak Count the sum of given digits outside. If its equal to the number of cells, then no blank cells :D wow, thanks! never thought about it! | ||
swaroop2011 |
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PR 2020 (Shading and Loops) Author Posts: 668 Location: India | can any body give a bigger size of puzzle for "FIRST OR LAST" for practise. i am facing sum problem to solve it.. | ||
Organisers |
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Posts: 175 Location: India | Information Booklet (Points table, Round Timings) published - http://logicmastersindia.com/IPC2011/finals.asp Edited by Organisers 2011-06-07 1:22 AM | ||
utkaarsh |
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Posts: 89 Location: India | For Rd 2 , the grid sizes are given in IB , can the grid size be shared for atleast the easy puzzles in Rd 3 and Rd 1 puzzles | ||
debmohanty |
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Location: India | utkaarsh - 2011-06-07 6:06 PM For Rd 2 , the grid sizes are given in IB , can the grid size be shared for atleast the easy puzzles in Rd 3 and Rd 1 puzzles The reason it is specified for Round2 is because I had to explain the partial points. Otherwise I wouldn't have mentioned that. I can do that for Round1/3, but will it be really useful for you in planning / making a strategy, I'll do that. let me know. | ||
debmohanty |
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Location: India | Oh wait... may be I can't. Many participants don't read forum, and it will be unfair to publish something about the puzzles here. Sorry. As such, if we publish the grid sizes beforehand, it will probably be first of its kind. | ||
utkaarsh |
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Posts: 89 Location: India | Since, i am new to puzzles, wanted to pick and choose which to concentrate on , like points grid size also indicate the complexity of a puzzle, The grid sizes /range in some cases are surely useful, frameless sudoku, different sums, where combinations are needed Also if posting in forum is a concern, updated IB is as an option ,open to other view points, | ||
debmohanty |
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Location: India | I must be sleeping when I wrote that we can't publish here. Obviously, as you said, we can update the IB Utkaarsh, let me emphasize that the grid size will not reveal anything about puzzle complexity. As a sample, if I say the Frameless sudoku is 9X9, it doesn't signify anything about its complexity. It is only points that tell you more about difficulty. For players who are new to puzzles, it is important to form a strategy to solve the types you are more comfortable with, irrespective of the grid size or points. | ||
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