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Riad Khanmagomedov's April Contest — 20th to 28th April 2016
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debmohanty
Subject: Re: Riad Khanmagomedov's April Contest — 20th to 28th April 2016 @ 2016-04-21 10:29 AM (#21544 - in reply to #21543) (#21544) Top



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Para - 2016-04-21 10:05 AM

In Opti Pentobattle, if I input the wrong K+1.5N because I didn't count the number of solutions correctly, will my solution be counted as wrong or will it count as the correct K+1.5N?
In previous years, Riad has corrected the "optimized value", if it is wrong. It will be done similarly for Opti-Pentobattle.

The purpose of asking optimized value is to sort the solutions quickly.
marred
Subject: Re: Riad Khanmagomedov's April Contest — 20th to 28th April 2016 @ 2016-04-21 12:48 PM (#21545 - in reply to #21544) (#21545) Top




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Just to clarify: in Pentobattle do I have to separate each cell with comma?
debmohanty
Subject: Re: Riad Khanmagomedov's April Contest — 20th to 28th April 2016 @ 2016-04-21 12:50 PM (#21546 - in reply to #21545) (#21546) Top



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marred - 2016-04-21 12:48 PM

Just to clarify: in Pentobattle do I have to separate each cell with comma?
Commas not required.
Riad Khanmagomedov
Subject: Re: Riad Khanmagomedov's April Contest — 20th to 28th April 2016 @ 2016-04-21 1:42 PM (#21547 - in reply to #21541) (#21547) Top


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forcolin - 2016-04-20 8:27 PM

a question about 4.BRICKS.
the brick fragment which must be filled with the length of the brick will always occur at one of the ends of the brick or it can occur also in the middle?

Length is always stated at the end of the brick.
Riad Khanmagomedov
Subject: Re: Riad Khanmagomedov's April Contest — 20th to 28th April 2016 @ 2016-04-21 1:51 PM (#21548 - in reply to #21542) (#21548) Top


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kiwijam - 2016-04-21 5:34 AM

"Borderless Sextet" questions:

- Is every cell of the grid in one of the 6 regions? Or can there be cells which are not used?
- Packing Figures are only on white cells, Battleships only on blue cells, the other 4 regions can be white or blue. Correct?
- The Battleships region must include empty cells between ships, but can other regions include empty cells also? e.g. can the Snake region be larger than 19 cells, or can the Scrabble region include cells without letters?
I think in the other three regions, every cell must be part of a loop/tetromino/yellow figure?

1. Each cell belongs to one of 6 regions.
2. Correct.
3. Yes.
rob
Subject: Re: Riad Khanmagomedov's April Contest — 20th to 28th April 2016 @ 2016-04-21 5:25 PM (#21549 - in reply to #21482) (#21549) Top


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In the Citadel stair codes answer code is marked red, although my format seems correct as far as I can tell.
Mihalich
Subject: Re: Riad Khanmagomedov's April Contest — 20th to 28th April 2016 @ 2016-04-21 10:58 PM (#21550 - in reply to #21482) (#21550) Top




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Subject: Re: Riad Khanmagomedov's April Contest — 20th to 28th April 2016 @ 2016-04-21 11:01 PM (#21551 - in reply to #21482) (#21551) Top




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Zadanije 6 - C. 4 dolgno nahoditsa tolko v zelenoy kletke. Kak i kuda moget otrazitsa 4?
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Subject: Re: Riad Khanmagomedov's April Contest — 20th to 28th April 2016 @ 2016-04-22 1:15 PM (#21552 - in reply to #21551) (#21552) Top


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Mihalich - 2016-04-21 11:01 PM

Zadanije 6 - C. 4 dolgno nahoditsa tolko v zelenoy kletke. Kak i kuda moget otrazitsa 4?

4, chto v pole C, otrazitsya v 4 v pole A, esli sootvetstvuyushchie kletki zelyonye.
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Subject: RE: Riad Khanmagomedov's April Contest — 20th to 28th April 2016 @ 2016-04-22 2:37 PM (#21553 - in reply to #21482) (#21553) Top


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Tie-breaker for Puzzle 10 - OPTI-PENTOBATTLE

Announcement from Riad - Tie-breaker for solutions with same value of K + 1.5N

If two solutions have same value of K + 1.5N, the solution which has smallest rectangular Pentomino area will be considered as better solution.

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Subject: RE: Riad Khanmagomedov's April Contest — 20th to 28th April 2016 @ 2016-04-22 5:29 PM (#21554 - in reply to #21553) (#21554) Top




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Tie-breaker for Puzzle 10 - OPTI-PENTOBATTLE

Announcement from Riad - Tie-breaker for solutions with same value of K + 1.5N

If two solutions have same value of K + 1.5N, the solution which has smallest rectangular Pentomino area will be considered as better solution.



What does smallest rectangular Sea Area mean exactly? Is that the smallest rectangle the pentomino shape could be fitted in (with max dimensions 10 by 10)? Is this purely by size (9x4=6x6)?
Riad Khanmagomedov
Subject: RE: Riad Khanmagomedov's April Contest — 20th to 28th April 2016 @ 2016-04-22 5:57 PM (#21555 - in reply to #21554) (#21555) Top


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Para - 2016-04-22 5:29 PM
What does smallest rectangular Sea Area mean exactly? Is that the smallest rectangle the pentomino shape could be fitted in (with max dimensions 10 by 10)? Is this purely by size (9x4=6x6)?

The best, where Pentamino area limited by the rectangle of smaller area. For example, the area bounded by the rectangle 8x10 better that by the rectangle 9x9.
The length of the rectangle cannot be more than 10.
Riad Khanmagomedov
Subject: Re: Riad Khanmagomedov's April Contest — 20th to 28th April 2016 @ 2016-04-22 6:01 PM (#21556 - in reply to #21482) (#21556) Top


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Deb, please change places K and N in the Tie-breaker. Must be K + 1.5N.
chaotic_iak
Subject: Re: Riad Khanmagomedov's April Contest — 20th to 28th April 2016 @ 2016-04-22 9:06 PM (#21557 - in reply to #21556) (#21557) Top



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To clarify, it's the Pentomino area that's on the tiebreaker, not the Sea area, right?
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Subject: Re: Riad Khanmagomedov's April Contest — 20th to 28th April 2016 @ 2016-04-22 10:19 PM (#21558 - in reply to #21557) (#21558) Top


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chaotic_iak - 2016-04-22 9:06 PM

To clarify, it's the Pentomino area that's on the tiebreaker, not the Sea area, right?

In our case Pentamino area is the Sea area.
chaotic_iak
Subject: Re: Riad Khanmagomedov's April Contest — 20th to 28th April 2016 @ 2016-04-22 11:55 PM (#21559 - in reply to #21558) (#21559) Top



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So it's the area that's not covered by pentomino, the area that doesn't contain the ships?
kiwijam
Subject: Re: Riad Khanmagomedov's April Contest — 20th to 28th April 2016 @ 2016-04-23 4:31 AM (#21560 - in reply to #21559) (#21560) Top




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So it's the area that's not covered by pentomino, the area that doesn't contain the ships?


The area not covered by pentominoes is "land". The pentominoes are the "sea". The ships are placed into the sea somewhere. So then the pentominoes contain ship cells and empty sea cells.

You need to find the smallest rectangle (max 10x10) that will hold all your pentominoes.
chaotic_iak
Subject: Re: Riad Khanmagomedov's April Contest — 20th to 28th April 2016 @ 2016-04-23 10:28 AM (#21561 - in reply to #21560) (#21561) Top



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Oh, right, ships are placed on sea. I instinctively translate regions left without pieces as sea.

I also misread the tiebreaker, thinking that the tiebreaker is to minimize the area of the largest rectangular region that is entirely inside the pentominoes.
forcolin
Subject: Re: Riad Khanmagomedov's April Contest — 20th to 28th April 2016 @ 2016-04-24 2:43 AM (#21562 - in reply to #21482) (#21562) Top





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question about 9 ACCORDANCES

Is the question solvable only with logic/algebraic calculations or does it require knowledge in a particular field? (music, sport, astronomy etc.)
Igor_Aipkin
Subject: Re: Riad Khanmagomedov's April Contest — 20th to 28th April 2016 @ 2016-04-26 1:26 AM (#21565 - in reply to #21482) (#21565) Top




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Sorry for repeating the question, that was above, but nevertheless - my answers for puzzles 1 and 12 are considered in wrong format, though I checked it many times. Deb said that it would be fixed, but it's still not. Is there a way to be sure that the format of the answer is right? Maybe a pm from someone? I'm not asking to check the answer itself, only format.
One more question - about puzzle 8 - how do you write the content of a cell with a number, if it has more than one digit - for example 19 - should I write 19 or 9, for example, or somehow else?

Edited by Igor_Aipkin 2016-04-26 1:27 AM
forcolin
Subject: Re: Riad Khanmagomedov's April Contest — 20th to 28th April 2016 @ 2016-04-26 1:49 AM (#21566 - in reply to #21482) (#21566) Top





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I have used the notation in parenthesis - for example (19). i know the length of the input string is longer and the format alarm goes on but i believe this is a warning for the player rather than a physical limitation to the length. If i am wrong pls administrator let me know and i will change the format
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Subject: Re: Riad Khanmagomedov's April Contest — 20th to 28th April 2016 @ 2016-04-26 5:22 AM (#21567 - in reply to #21565) (#21567) Top


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Igor_Aipkin - 2016-04-26 1:26 AM

Sorry for repeating the question, that was above, but nevertheless - my answers for puzzles 1 and 12 are considered in wrong format, though I checked it many times. Deb said that it would be fixed, but it's still not. Is there a way to be sure that the format of the answer is right? Maybe a pm from someone? I'm not asking to check the answer itself, only format.
One more question - about puzzle 8 - how do you write the content of a cell with a number, if it has more than one digit - for example 19 - should I write 19 or 9, for example, or somehow else?

Fixed red warnings for 1 (again)
Red warnings for 12 can not be fixed. Please ignore them and submit carefully.
About 8 : Riad expects to type 19. You can follow forcolin's advice above, if you want.
Riad Khanmagomedov
Subject: Re: Riad Khanmagomedov's April Contest — 20th to 28th April 2016 @ 2016-04-26 2:09 PM (#21568 - in reply to #21562) (#21568) Top


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forcolin - 2016-04-24 2:43 AM

question about 9 ACCORDANCES

Is the question solvable only with logic/algebraic calculations or does it require knowledge in a particular field? (music, sport, astronomy etc.)

Accepted any answer.
Riad Khanmagomedov
Subject: Re: Riad Khanmagomedov's April Contest — 20th to 28th April 2016 @ 2016-04-26 2:13 PM (#21569 - in reply to #21565) (#21569) Top


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Igor_Aipkin - 2016-04-26 1:26 AM
One more question - about puzzle 8 - how do you write the content of a cell with a number, if it has more than one digit - for example 19 - should I write 19 or 9, for example, or somehow else?

Only one solver gave the last digits of the numbers, but I'll count this answer as correct.
Riad Khanmagomedov
Subject: Re: Riad Khanmagomedov's April Contest — 20th to 28th April 2016 @ 2016-04-26 2:21 PM (#21570 - in reply to #21482) (#21570) Top


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In the puzzle VOYAGE five solvers have indicated a certain number once (instead of having to do it twice). I think to count such answers as correctly, because the solvers could be difficulties with the translation of the text.
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