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Number Placement & Puzz.link - 6th - 11th May 2022 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier 2022
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prasanna16391
Subject: Number Placement & Puzz.link - 6th - 11th May 2022 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier 2022 @ 2022-05-03 9:02 PM (#30613) (#30613) Top


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Link for rules and other details about Puzzle Ramayan: http://logicmastersindia.com/PR/2022pr.asp


Instruction Booklet & Submission Page

The Instruction Booklet can now be downloaded on the submission page - https://logicmastersindia.com/live/?contest=PR202204

prasanna16391
Subject: Re: Number Placement & Puzz.link - 6th - 11th May 2022 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier 2022 @ 2022-05-04 12:45 AM (#30614 - in reply to #30613) (#30614) Top


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The IB v1 is now published. To be added - Points Distribution and size details for Doppelblock.
prasanna16391
Subject: Re: Number Placement & Puzz.link - 6th - 11th May 2022 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier 2022 @ 2022-05-05 6:55 PM (#30621 - in reply to #30613) (#30621) Top


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New IB version uploaded. Points distribution added, as well as sizes of Doppelblock puzzles.
prasanna16391
Subject: Re: Number Placement & Puzz.link - 6th - 11th May 2022 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier 2022 @ 2022-05-05 11:39 PM (#30622 - in reply to #30613) (#30622) Top


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The password protected Puzzle Booklet is now available to download.
ashaash11ash
Subject: Re: Number Placement & Puzz.link - 6th - 11th May 2022 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier 2022 @ 2022-05-06 9:21 AM (#30624 - in reply to #30613) (#30624) Top


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https://youtu.be/kxOFG1MySYE

A video on how to solve a Tasquare puzzle with tips explained.
lavaloid
Subject: Re: Number Placement & Puzz.link - 6th - 11th May 2022 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier 2022 @ 2022-05-06 4:05 PM (#30625 - in reply to #30613) (#30625) Top




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prasanna16391
Subject: Re: Number Placement & Puzz.link - 6th - 11th May 2022 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier 2022 @ 2022-05-07 1:45 AM (#30626 - in reply to #30613) (#30626) Top


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Puzzle 12 has multiple solutions. The keys for all the correct solutions will be accepted. If anyone would like to bring up time lapses faced due to this, please mail logicmasteradmin@gmail.com . Unless we see many Indians impacted prior to this announcement, we will allow the round to stand as is.
kaz_150
Subject: Re: Number Placement & Puzz.link - 6th - 11th May 2022 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier 2022 @ 2022-05-07 7:14 AM (#30627 - in reply to #30613) (#30627) Top




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very+difficult+round--+number+placement+is+so+hard+in+comparison+to+the+others.+Maybe+I+should+have+printed+it+out.
professorX
Subject: Re: Number Placement & Puzz.link - 6th - 11th May 2022 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier 2022 @ 2022-05-07 7:04 PM (#30629 - in reply to #30613) (#30629) Top




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Puzzle 19 Kakuro (kropki) has no dots in the grid. Is that intentional or error? Looks like it has multiple solutions ....
prasanna16391
Subject: Re: Number Placement & Puzz.link - 6th - 11th May 2022 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier 2022 @ 2022-05-07 7:30 PM (#30630 - in reply to #30613) (#30630) Top


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Puzzle+19+is+fine%2c+I+believe.+I+suggest+re-reading+the+rules+carefully.
Realshaggy
Subject: Re: Number Placement & Puzz.link - 6th - 11th May 2022 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier 2022 @ 2022-05-07 8:09 PM (#30631 - in reply to #30613) (#30631) Top




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I really enjoyed the puzzles, but in the first round it was communicated that these contests are planned to be intentionally a bit shorter and easier for promotion and to attract new solvers, which is totally not the case. From my experience, it could easily been split into two one hour contests, which would have been better anyway with the mixed genres. If you want to promote new puzzle types, it does not help if even experienced solvers can just skip looking at these because there is enough Kakuro/Kropki stuff. I guess everbody who is forced to do them knows them anyway.

But if people still manage to finish in 40 minutes, everything might be ok and it's just me being slow as usual.

Edited by Realshaggy 2022-05-07 8:13 PM
prasanna16391
Subject: Re: Number Placement & Puzz.link - 6th - 11th May 2022 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier 2022 @ 2022-05-08 12:26 AM (#30632 - in reply to #30613) (#30632) Top


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Thanks+for+the+feedback+Christoph.+%0a%0aWhile+I+see+your+point%2c+I+think+there+is+some+gap+here+about+the+stated+goals.+It+might+be+my+own+insuffici
out+the+stated+goals.+It+might+be+my+own+insufficient+communication.+%0a%0aWhat+I+am+trying+to+achieve+here%2c+is+admittedly+many+things+at+once%2c+bu
ve+here%2c+is+admittedly+many+things+at+once%2c+but+none+of+it+is+just+%22simpler+puzzles+to+promote+to+new+solvers%22.+%0a%0aMy+main+goal%2c+in+any+k
+to+new+solvers%22.+%0a%0aMy+main+goal%2c+in+any+kind+of+thinking+and+re-thinking+of+these+series%2c+is+to+give+a+platform+for+Indian+solvers+to+impro
+is+to+give+a+platform+for+Indian+solvers+to+improve+towards+the+larger+competitions%2c+and+I'm+honest+about+that+being+the+primary+goal.+Now%2c+how+t
st+about+that+being+the+primary+goal.+Now%2c+how+to+do+that+is+up+for+debate.+%0a%0aSo+my+different+goals+are+%0aA)+the+top+Indian+solvers+should+have
goals+are+%0aA)+the+top+Indian+solvers+should+have+a+good+challenge+and+variety.+If+they+finish+6+out+of+6+rounds+or+even+come+close+to+that%2c+unfort
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al+WPC+performance.+So+for+our+top+solvers%2c+I+want+them+to+improve+their+choices+and+be+challenged%2c+and+struggle+to+finish+most+of+the+puzzles%2c+
%2c+and+struggle+to+finish+most+of+the+puzzles%2c+as+they+would+in+the+WPC.+Some+rounds+can+be+sprint+rounds+like+round+1+where+they+do+get+closer+to+
t+rounds+like+round+1+where+they+do+get+closer+to+finishing%2c+again+consistent+with+a+WPC.+%0aB)+I+want+there+to+be+enough+easy+puzzles+to+*occupy*+n
want+there+to+be+enough+easy+puzzles+to+*occupy*+newer+and+casual+solvers.+That+is+the+key+word.+I+have+been+getting+2+or+3+solvers+into+things+for+th
ave+been+getting+2+or+3+solvers+into+things+for+the+first+time+this+year%2c+and+I+mainly+have+been+seeing+%22can+I+tell+them+to+focus+on+two+or+three+
eeing+%22can+I+tell+them+to+focus+on+two+or+three+low+pointer+sections+to+grab+their+attention%3f%22.+These+aren't+competitive+solvers+(yet)+so+I+main
.+These+aren't+competitive+solvers+(yet)+so+I+mainly+just+don't+want+them+spending+20+or+30+minutes+thinking+%22ok+I'm+done+with+whatever+I+can+solve+
thinking+%22ok+I'm+done+with+whatever+I+can+solve+now%2c+this+other+time+is+just+a+waste%22+because+more+than+3+types+can+be+beyond+their+focus.+I+als
more+than+3+types+can+be+beyond+their+focus.+I+also+know+that+when+getting+into+a+hobby%2c+90+minutes+may+be+a+bigger+time+sink+than+the+simple+math+o
s+may+be+a+bigger+time+sink+than+the+simple+math+of+an+hour.%0a%0aSo+the+change+to+60+minutes+fit+both+these+goals.+Where+we+may+be+falling+short+is+t
th+these+goals.+Where+we+may+be+falling+short+is+that+the+1+and+2+pointers+aren't+as+easy+as+I'd+like%2c+and+I+try+to+work+on+that.+%0a%0aI+am+yet+to+
e%2c+and+I+try+to+work+on+that.+%0a%0aI+am+yet+to+fully+analyze+whether+these+changes+are+working%2c+I+will+definitely+rethink+things+again+at+the+end
+I+will+definitely+rethink+things+again+at+the+end+of+the+season+and+feedback+like+this+definitely+helps+towards+that+(though+as+I+always+do+I+encoura
elps+towards+that+(though+as+I+always+do+I+encourage+newer+solvers+to+have+a+voice+and+come+forward+with+their+thoughts+too).+
with+their+thoughts+too).+
prasanna16391
Subject: Re: Number Placement & Puzz.link - 6th - 11th May 2022 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier 2022 @ 2022-05-08 12:32 AM (#30633 - in reply to #30613) (#30633) Top


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It+is+also+probably+important+to+note+that+for+the+Indian+top+solvers%2c+puzz.link+isn't+a+frequented+place+for+solving.+In+fact+this+category+idea+ca
d+place+for+solving.+In+fact+this+category+idea+came+from+there+being+some+puzz.link+genres+in+IPC+and+them+being+completely+new+to+the+solvers+in+our
nd+them+being+completely+new+to+the+solvers+in+our+top+3+besides+me.+So+the+goal+of+this+particular+round+is+to+leave+it+up+to+them+whether+they+want+
round+is+to+leave+it+up+to+them+whether+they+want+to+go+for+some+higher+point+familiar+stuff+or+newer+stuff+and+hope+that+they+go+back+and+solve+whate
r+stuff+and+hope+that+they+go+back+and+solve+whatever+they+missed+post+contest+%3a)+
vopani
Subject: Re: Number Placement & Puzz.link - 6th - 11th May 2022 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier 2022 @ 2022-05-08 1:07 AM (#30634 - in reply to #30613) (#30634) Top


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Pretty tough set. When even the low pointers are hard, it takes the fun out of solving.
Puzzle quality was good, nonetheless.
Favourites:
20 Kakuro Kropki
13 Shimaguni
21 Shimaguni O/E
Thanks Nityant!
kishy72
Subject: Re: Number Placement & Puzz.link - 6th - 11th May 2022 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier 2022 @ 2022-05-10 8:58 PM (#30636 - in reply to #30613) (#30636) Top


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Very hard puzzles . Would have better suited a 90 min contest. I madly guessed in many puzzles due to time constraints and don't remember much now.

Thanks for putting together this round Nityant.
ashaash11ash
Subject: Re: Number Placement & Puzz.link - 6th - 11th May 2022 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier 2022 @ 2022-05-11 9:16 PM (#30638 - in reply to #30613) (#30638) Top


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Wooohhh. What a Luck at the end. Somehow managed to click the submit button at the end for Doppelblock high pointer. Very hard puzzles but enjoyed. I knew Number placement (specially Kakuro :) ) would be my last resort in this contest and I was right . Somehow managed Kakuro (Kropki) though.Thanks Nityant for this contest :)
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