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TVC XIV — 31st August - 2nd September
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Subject: Re: TVC XIV — 31st August - 2nd September @ 2013-09-02 9:59 AM (#12543 - in reply to #12531) (#12543) Top




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yureklis - 2013-09-01 4:49 PM


About Tapa Or Not Tapa, first version of this puzzle had so many clues. I was thinking that it shouldn't be like this. So I made again, and my intention was to construct with a few clues, so 0-1 seemed very suitable for it.



Yeah I noticed that too. That's why I went with all the squares of clues so a bunch of Tapa clues would at least be forced true and would be able to influence the solve a bit.
ukonet
Subject: Re: TVC XIV — 31st August - 2nd September @ 2013-09-02 3:35 PM (#12545 - in reply to #12408) (#12545) Top




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 How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? Fairly balanced
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? A bit too few puzzles
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did their point values reflect the difficulty/time spent? All puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


HuDu
Subject: Re: TVC XIV — 31st August - 2nd September @ 2013-09-02 6:11 PM (#12548 - in reply to #12408) (#12548) Top




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 How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? Fairly balanced
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? Just right
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did their point values reflect the difficulty/time spent? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


debmohanty
Subject: Re: TVC XIV — 31st August - 2nd September @ 2013-09-02 6:26 PM (#12550 - in reply to #12549) (#12550) Top



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@witty, See your inbox
tamz29
Subject: Re: TVC XIV — 31st August - 2nd September @ 2013-09-03 12:38 AM (#12553 - in reply to #12408) (#12553) Top




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I like how you manage to sneak in one-off gimmicks (puzzles that only work once) in your tests.
Tapa Regional was very cute!
motris
Subject: Re: TVC XIV — 31st August - 2nd September @ 2013-09-03 12:57 AM (#12554 - in reply to #12553) (#12554) Top




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Really incredible puzzles, but I did "guess what you were thinking" a few times instead of doing logic like on the Wordic Tapa. Glad to not have made a mistake this time.
yureklis
Subject: Re: TVC XIV — 31st August - 2nd September @ 2013-09-03 3:04 AM (#12555 - in reply to #12554) (#12555) Top


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motris - 2013-09-03 12:57 AM

Really incredible puzzles, but I did "guess what you were thinking" a few times instead of doing logic like on the Wordic Tapa. Glad to not have made a mistake this time.


:) on the Wordic Tapa there were two possibilities for center 4's, and I forced them to be zero. I knew that some solvers would guess that. You know, sometimes the author has some request from the puzzle, in better words "author desire" :)

Edited by yureklis 2013-09-03 3:06 AM
GaS
Subject: Re: TVC XIV — 31st August - 2nd September @ 2013-09-03 3:54 AM (#12556 - in reply to #12408) (#12556) Top




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I just finished the contest and, despite my (usual) low level result, I liked the puzzles very much.
I'm only very curious about the Tapa in the Cave A solution: I loss a lot of time on this puzzle but I'm sure that it has no solution... Obviously, if so many partecipants solved it, it has one, but I can prove (!?!) that is an impossible puzzle... :-) Looking for the solution

Thanks very much Serkan!
An LMI player
Subject: Re: TVC XIV — 31st August - 2nd September @ 2013-09-03 9:31 AM (#12557 - in reply to #12408) (#12557) Top


 How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? Fairly balanced
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? Just right
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did their point values reflect the difficulty/time spent? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


rvarun
Subject: Re: TVC XIV — 31st August - 2nd September @ 2013-09-03 11:32 AM (#12561 - in reply to #12408) (#12561) Top




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Good concepts for the Puzzles. But personally too tough for me. Couldnt solve even a single puzzle. :P

Thanks Serkan for the wonderful test. I will try solving it offline whenever possible.
GaS
Subject: Re: TVC XIV — 31st August - 2nd September @ 2013-09-03 12:48 PM (#12562 - in reply to #12556) (#12562) Top




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GaS - 2013-09-03 12:54 AM

I'm only very curious about the Tapa in the Cave A solution: I loss a lot of time on this puzzle but I'm sure that it has no solution... Obviously, if so many partecipants solved it, it has one, but I can prove (!?!) that is an impossible puzzle... :-) Looking for the solution
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now I see the solution: shame on me!
devarajand
Subject: Re: TVC XIV — 31st August - 2nd September @ 2013-09-03 2:55 PM (#12563 - in reply to #12408) (#12563) Top




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I took almost a bit more than 40 hrs to solve all these puzzles. Except tapa cyclic I had all correct answers. Hope to do much better in the next contest.
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Subject: Re: TVC XIV — 31st August - 2nd September @ 2013-09-03 4:13 PM (#12564 - in reply to #12408) (#12564) Top



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 How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? Perfectly balanced
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Fairly Nice
 How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? Just right
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did their point values reflect the difficulty/time spent? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


Grizix
Subject: Re: TVC XIV — 31st August - 2nd September @ 2013-09-04 7:07 AM (#12575 - in reply to #12408) (#12575) Top




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 How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? Perfectly balanced
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Average
 How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? A bit too many puzzles
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did their point values reflect the difficulty/time spent? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


yureklis
Subject: RE: TVC XIV — 31st August - 2nd September @ 2013-09-04 11:45 PM (#12582 - in reply to #12408) (#12582) Top


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Thanks to all participants.

Top three are as follows:

1. Endo Ken (Japan) [16/16, 49:15 min]
2. Thomas Snyder (USA) [16/16, 52:10 min]
3. Bram De Laat (Netherlands) [16/16, 55:50 min]

Almost everyone in the top 20 submitted answers for all 16 puzzles. Some of those lost crucial points with only one mistake. All of these incorrect submissions differed from the correct answer by only one digit, less or more.

In general, I am very happy about the overall difficulty and that many people completed the test. Many thanks to William Blatt that made this possible.
Endo Ken is not only the winner of this round, but also is the first Japanese solver to win a TVC round. Congratulations for both!
The solver with most wins in all TVCs is now Palmer M. (4), followed by Thomas S. (3) and Ulrcih V. (3). For details: http://logicmastersindia.com/TVC/

- The puzzle solved by least competitors was Tapa In The Cave (b). It was solved by 26 competitors.
- The puzzle solved by most competitors was Elimination Tapa. It was solved by 89 competitors.
- The puzzle with the highest rating was Pentapa (b) (9.10) and the puzzle with the lowest rating was Wordic Tapa (7.50).

Full results table is here: http://logicmastersindia.com/TVC/XIV/score.asp

Current ranking to determine Tapa Master 2013, after TVC XIII and TVC XIV: http://logicmastersindia.com/TVC/2013.asp

For TVC XV, 6 of the 10 puzzle types were determined by your votes. The remaining 4 will be displayed in the IB to be published at the weekend. If you think this kind of voting system is reasonable, we can do it for TVC XVI.

Please feel free to share any ideas.

Best,

Serkan
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