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Location: France | 1. I guess we have to read it as "words can be found in the grid and you'd better search them if you want to solve the sudoku", indeed.
2. I may be wrong but I suppose there will be something like a text accompanying the competition puzzle, with only some words in capital letters. |
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Location: Serbia | TiiT - 2013-04-11 10:52 AM
About word search:
1.The rule says that Find all given words. Do I really have to find all the words or do I need to solve the sudoku? Or you just want to say that it's not solvable if you don't find all the words?
2. What do you mean about Find all given words (only words with capital letters) in the words list? Do I have to find all the words or do I have to find only the words with capital letters. The rule speaks against itself.
TiiT
All words written by capital letters (there will be additional words in competition puzzle, that you can completely ignore during solve) are placed somewhere in solved sudoku. You don't need to mark words in solved grid. It is enough to solve sudoku according to this additional rules.
For example: BUENOS Aires, New YORK. Only BUENOS and YORK must be in solved sudoku.
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Location: Czech Republic | I hope you'll appreciate a little bit of practice on the next WPF round.
We are preparing for you these sudoku variants:
15.04.2013 - Quadruple (practice on WPF Sudoku Grand Prix — Serbian Round)
16.04.2013 - Arrow Sudoku (practice on WPF Sudoku Grand Prix — Serbian Round)
17.04.2013 - Tennis Sudoku (practice on WPF Sudoku Grand Prix — Serbian Round)
18.04.2013 - Little Killer (practice on WPF Sudoku Grand Prix — Serbian Round)
19.04.2013 - Thermo-sudoku (practice on WPF Sudoku Grand Prix — Serbian Round)
20.04.2013 - Renban Groups (practice on WPF Sudoku Grand Prix — Serbian Round)
21.04.2013 - Jigsaw Sudoku (practice on WPF Sudoku Grand Prix — Serbian Round)
More you can find on http://sudokucup.com/node/1901 |
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Location: Estonia | About New YORK, actually the capital letters are NYORK, do I need to find N_ _ YORK somewhere, or NYORK somewhere (how do I need to take blanks). Or what if there is like SeRbIa, how do I have to act then? I just don't have it clear and I would like to avoid unpleasant surprises.
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Location: India | word search -> words may be found in any of eight directions can someone clears it |
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Location: Slovakia | dp_94 - 2013-04-13 12:19 AM
word search -> words may be found in any of eight directions can someone clears it
Yes, all 8 directions are allowed. |
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Location: Serbia | TiiT - 2013-04-12 9:33 PM
About New YORK, actually the capital letters are NYORK, do I need to find N_ _ YORK somewhere, or NYORK somewhere (how do I need to take blanks). Or what if there is like SeRbIa, how do I have to act then? I just don't have it clear and I would like to avoid unpleasant surprises.
TiiT
Tiit, sorry if I confused you. There will be no surprises in competition puzzle. Words completely written using CAPITAL letters must be found somewhere in solved grid.
For New YORK, you need to place YORK somewhere in grid.
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Location: Serbia | dp_94 - 2013-04-13 12:19 AM
word search -> words may be found in any of eight directions can someone clears it
The words may be placed in any direction: horizontally, vertically, diagonally, and forwards and backwards (8 directions in total).
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Location: Switzerland | In the IB, rules of sudokus: "placement (shape) sudoku", "thermo-sudoku", "killer sudoku" and "movable digits" contain words "bolded region" instead of "bolded 3x3 box".
Will they all be irregular or is it just a little lack of precision of rules (examples have 3x3 boxes, except movable digits)?
Can we know exactly which sudokus will have irregular regions (example of movable digits has irregular regions, but the actual puzzle in WSC 2011 had 3x3 boxes)?
Thanks,
Fred
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Location: Serbia | Fred76 - 2013-04-16 8:59 PM
In the IB, rules of sudokus: "placement (shape) sudoku", "thermo-sudoku", "killer sudoku" and "movable digits" contain words "bolded region" instead of "bolded 3x3 box".
Will they all be irregular or is it just a little lack of precision of rules (examples have 3x3 boxes, except movable digits)?
Can we know exactly which sudokus will have irregular regions (example of movable digits has irregular regions, but the actual puzzle in WSC 2011 had 3x3 boxes)?
Thanks,
Fred
Movable digits has irregular regions, all other sudokus are with 3x3 boxes.
P.S. In all three sudokus (placement, thermo, killer) will be some non-box shapes for sure...
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Location: Switzerland | Thanks ! |
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Location: India | All sudokus in this contest can be solved online as well. Selected examples are available for online solving for practice purpose.
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Location: Taiwan | Sorry, I don't still understand the 16th question. Original, I have the same idea with Wicktroll. But after Para's reply, I was confused. Could anyone explain how you solve this puzzle at first 3 or 5 steps? thanks.
About Para's reply, he said "The rule only states that one of the neighbors of a GIVEN digit, must contain that digit." what is the GIVEN digit? thanks. |
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Location: Serbia | robertolee - 2013-04-17 8:22 PM
Sorry, I don't still understand the 16th question. Original, I have the same idea with Wicktroll. But after Para's reply, I was confused. Could anyone explain how you solve this puzzle at first 3 or 5 steps? thanks.
About Para's reply, he said "The rule only states that one of the neighbors of a GIVEN digit, must contain that digit." what is the GIVEN digit? thanks.
For example: 6 is GIVEN digit (left grid) on R6C1. This digit 6 in solved grid must be on R5C1 or R6C2 and for sure this 6 doesn't leave region (bottom left).
GIVEN 6 on R5C1 must move on some of next cells: R5C2, R6C1, R4C1. First digit 6 is on R5C1 or R6C2, so that leaves only R4C1 as position for second 6.
After that you can conclude that first 6 is on R6C2.
You can try to continue using similar logic...
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Location: India | About Movable Digits, in pictures
Any given digit in left grid, must appear at one of the 4 adjacent cells in the right grid.
In the grid below look at the marked cell with "A" in the left grid. It means, "A" must appear at least once in the marked cells in the right grid. (It could appear twice, but at least once).
Now here is the sudoku from the instruction booklet, with the solution next to it. You can see the rule being applied for each of the given digits in the left grid.
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Location: Iran | Hello Admin,
Thank you for explaining Movable Digits rule.
Everything is clear.... |
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Location: Serbia | Thanks, Deb.
Branko
Edited by skywalker 2013-04-18 10:48 PM
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Location: India | Announcements 1 ) Password protected Sudoku booklet is uploaded. It has 9 pages. There is no cover page or points table.
2 ) Paper only link : http://logicmastersindia.com/2013/04S/?paper=1 Use this link if you are not planning to use online solving at all. (Paper Only link will keep your browser less cluttered and your browser uses less memory )
3 ) Link to score page : http://logicmastersindia.com/2013/04S/score.asp
4 ) This thread will be made restricted so that players can freely discuss about the competition.
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Location: The Netherlands | Is the last post important, as I'm not allowed to read it except for the words "You can". |
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Location: India | Para - 2013-04-20 1:52 AM
Is the last post important, as I'm not allowed to read it except for the words "You can". It is just a test message. |
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Location: India | WPF Sudoku Grand Prix — Serbian Round has started. Good luck to all.
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Location: Canada | Now here is the sudoku from the instruction booklet, with the solution next to it. You can see the rule being applied for each of the given digits in the left grid.
There is an error in the example. There is a 3 where there should be a 4 in the puzzle. I came upon this error when, in the first two columns, there was no 4. Therefore, because no 4 could be entered legally in the first column, the demo has no valid solution. This is confirmed with five 4s and seven 3s in the puzzle layout.
Additionally, I find it hilarious that my own posts are restricted from my view during the test. LMAO
Cyclone
Edited by Cyclone 2013-04-20 7:42 AM
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Location: India | Cyclone - 2013-04-20 7:40 AM
Additionally, I find it hilarious that my own posts are restricted from my view during the test. LMAO
I find it more hilarious that you still didn't understand the rule. |
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Location: Czech Republic | | How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? | Fairly balanced | | | What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? | Just right | | | What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? | Very nice | | | How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? | A bit too many puzzles | | | Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did their point values reflect the difficulty/time spent? | Most puzzles were worth the right amount | | | What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? | Just right | |
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