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Toketa? Selection — LMI January Puzzle Test — 30th Jan to 1st Feb
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An LMI player
Subject: Re: Toketa? Selection — LMI January Puzzle Test — 30th Jan to 1st Feb @ 2016-01-30 5:14 PM (#20860 - in reply to #20773) (#20860) Top


 How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? Perfectly balanced
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Your 3 most favorite puzzles of the contest. Araf
 Your 3 most favorite puzzles of the contest. Meandering Words
 Your 3 most favorite puzzles of the contest. Summon


rakesh_rai
Subject: Re: Toketa? Selection — LMI January Puzzle Test — 30th Jan to 1st Feb @ 2016-01-30 7:00 PM (#20861 - in reply to #20773) (#20861) Top



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 How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? Perfectly balanced
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Your 3 most favorite puzzles of the contest. Max Arrow Castle Wall
 Your 3 most favorite puzzles of the contest. Sunglasses
 Your 3 most favorite puzzles of the contest. Statue Park


Nilz
Subject: Re: Toketa? Selection — LMI January Puzzle Test — 30th Jan to 1st Feb @ 2016-01-30 7:19 PM (#20862 - in reply to #20773) (#20862) Top




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 How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? Perfectly balanced
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Your 3 most favorite puzzles of the contest. New Tren
 Your 3 most favorite puzzles of the contest. Summon
 Your 3 most favorite puzzles of the contest. Sunglasses


Really nice test, and I'm glad to see that volume 4 is being worked on! :-) I much prefer the ones that can be solved completely logically, rather than the ones with rubbers symbols, but all the puzzles were good quality anyway!
The grid lines/ lattice points on the New Tren and the first Curve Data didn't print for me (although bizarrely they did on the second Curve Data), did anyone else have that problem? I had to draw them in myself, which I think meant I submitted the 2nd Angle Loop about 1 second after time, which is a bit annoying! But a fun 2 hours anyway.
debmohanty
Subject: Re: Toketa? Selection — LMI January Puzzle Test — 30th Jan to 1st Feb @ 2016-01-30 8:20 PM (#20863 - in reply to #20862) (#20863) Top



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Nilz - 2016-01-30 7:19 PM
The grid lines/ lattice points on the New Tren and the first Curve Data didn't print for me (although bizarrely they did on the second Curve Data), did anyone else have that problem?

In most likelihood, this happens when you print directly from the browser. See this post for details. You might want to re-print the pdf after saving the file on your machine.
Nilz
Subject: Re: Toketa? Selection — LMI January Puzzle Test — 30th Jan to 1st Feb @ 2016-01-31 12:37 AM (#20866 - in reply to #20863) (#20866) Top




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debmohanty - 2016-01-30 4:20 PM

Nilz - 2016-01-30 7:19 PM
The grid lines/ lattice points on the New Tren and the first Curve Data didn't print for me (although bizarrely they did on the second Curve Data), did anyone else have that problem?

In most likelihood, this happens when you print directly from the browser. See this post for details. You might want to re-print the pdf after saving the file on your machine.

I'm sure you're right, thanks for the info, I'll try this next time. Just weird that it's not happened before.
willwc
Subject: Re: Toketa? Selection — LMI January Puzzle Test — 30th Jan to 1st Feb @ 2016-01-31 1:21 AM (#20867 - in reply to #20773) (#20867) Top




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 How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? Perfectly balanced
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Your 3 most favorite puzzles of the contest. Max Arrow Castle Wall
 Your 3 most favorite puzzles of the contest. Araf
 Your 3 most favorite puzzles of the contest. Compass


An excellent set of puzzles. My thanks to the authors/organizers. I will also highly recommend the books to anyone who has not checked them out before.
rob
Subject: Re: Toketa? Selection — LMI January Puzzle Test — 30th Jan to 1st Feb @ 2016-01-31 2:58 AM (#20868 - in reply to #20773) (#20868) Top


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 How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? Perfectly balanced
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Your 3 most favorite puzzles of the contest. Symmetry Area
 Your 3 most favorite puzzles of the contest. Angle Loop
 Your 3 most favorite puzzles of the contest. Max Arrow Castle Wall


An expectedly brilliant test. I love the books, the contest matched their quality. Thank you!

It's hard to choose favourites; somehow I always tend towards the ones that gave me most trouble. That's the Symmetry Area here: I couldn't solve either of those until revisiting them later, kept not seeing ways that things could resolve. And once you've figured out 11/19, the 8 doesn't work! Then I'll vote for Angle Loop anytime because the type is so good, as were the puzzles.

Other than that, the harder Meandering Words seemed easy, but I still broke it. It's hard to find errors in those. And somewhat annoyingly I fixed an error in Summon 2 first in one entry code line, then in the other.
prasanna16391
Subject: Re: Toketa? Selection — LMI January Puzzle Test — 30th Jan to 1st Feb @ 2016-02-01 3:09 AM (#20873 - in reply to #20773) (#20873) Top


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 How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? Fairly balanced
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Your 3 most favorite puzzles of the contest. Araf
 Your 3 most favorite puzzles of the contest. Graffiti Snake
 Your 3 most favorite puzzles of the contest. Max Arrow Castle Wall


I was a bit apprehensive going into this for two reasons. 1) I haven't managed to solve a single medium+ Angle Loop till now. 2) I am really bad at intuition/guessing. Considering that, the test went fine except for two puzzles. One of them is that Symmetry Area puzzle which was beautiful to look at until I had to attack it with around 10 erasings (mainly because I didn't want to get to the Angle Loop) in multiple re-visits across the test duration. I'm probably just missing something simple and doing silly things repeatedly. I managed to solve the easier Angle Loop which is a big achievement in itself, and I still can't get the bigger one to work. If not for my shortcomings in these two puzzles I'd have a really nice result.
An LMI player
Subject: Re: Toketa? Selection — LMI January Puzzle Test — 30th Jan to 1st Feb @ 2016-02-01 7:00 AM (#20874 - in reply to #20773) (#20874) Top


 How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? Fairly balanced
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Your 3 most favorite puzzles of the contest. Summon
 Your 3 most favorite puzzles of the contest. Max Arrow Castle Wall
 Your 3 most favorite puzzles of the contest. Compass


forcolin
Subject: Re: Toketa? Selection — LMI January Puzzle Test — 30th Jan to 1st Feb @ 2016-02-01 7:18 AM (#20875 - in reply to #20773) (#20875) Top





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One of the best contests of recent times. Very innovative and very logical. based more on logical solving capacity rather than on speed. I liked it a lot, in spite of spending an awful lot of time on the first symmetry area (I managed to solve it only after the end) and still can't figure out how to sort the bigger brother. Very elegant also the second angle loop. Thanks to the authors
Para
Subject: Re: Toketa? Selection — LMI January Puzzle Test — 30th Jan to 1st Feb @ 2016-02-01 9:04 AM (#20876 - in reply to #20773) (#20876) Top




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 How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? Fairly balanced
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Fairly Nice
 Your 3 most favorite puzzles of the contest. New Tren
 Your 3 most favorite puzzles of the contest. Max Arrow Castle Wall
 Your 3 most favorite puzzles of the contest. Compass


As expected, the last Angle Loop broke me up for the last 10-15 minutes. It's a type that really doesn't suit me. I took a while afterwards to get it. I enjoyed all puzzles without a little eraser as the other ones caused some unnecessary problems. Not a bad performance overall though.
ghirsch
Subject: Re: Toketa? Selection — LMI January Puzzle Test — 30th Jan to 1st Feb @ 2016-02-01 1:00 PM (#20877 - in reply to #20773) (#20877) Top




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 How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? Perfectly balanced
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Your 3 most favorite puzzles of the contest. Graffiti Snake
 Your 3 most favorite puzzles of the contest. Sunglasses
 Your 3 most favorite puzzles of the contest. Meandering Words


An LMI player
Subject: Re: Toketa? Selection — LMI January Puzzle Test — 30th Jan to 1st Feb @ 2016-02-01 7:31 PM (#20878 - in reply to #20773) (#20878) Top


 How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? Perfectly balanced
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Too many medium difficult puzzles
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Your 3 most favorite puzzles of the contest. Sunglasses
 Your 3 most favorite puzzles of the contest. Curve Data
 Your 3 most favorite puzzles of the contest. Statue Park


Gotroch
Subject: Re: Toketa? Selection — LMI January Puzzle Test — 30th Jan to 1st Feb @ 2016-02-02 7:30 AM (#20882 - in reply to #20773) (#20882) Top




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 How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? Perfectly balanced
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Your 3 most favorite puzzles of the contest. New Tren
 Your 3 most favorite puzzles of the contest. Compass
 Your 3 most favorite puzzles of the contest. Sunglasses


debmohanty
Subject: RE: Toketa? Selection — LMI January Puzzle Test — 30th Jan to 1st Feb @ 2016-02-02 8:47 AM (#20883 - in reply to #20773) (#20883) Top



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Solutions booklet uploaded.

It also has a listing of which author created which puzzles and original version of Angle Loop (2), which is more challenging than the one that appeared in the contest.
debmohanty
Subject: RE: Toketa? Selection — LMI January Puzzle Test — 30th Jan to 1st Feb @ 2016-02-02 10:10 AM (#20884 - in reply to #20773) (#20884) Top



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Congratulations to Robert for winning this one, he is way ahead of Bram (2nd) and James (3rd). While I personally don't own the book, I have seen the very impressive stuff. They are of very high quality, and the contest puzzles certainly matched to them. Thanks very much to the authors.

I'm yet to solve all the puzzles (especially Symmetric Area and Angle Loop), but my favourites so far have been Araf, Sunglasses and Graffiti Snake.

debmohanty
Subject: RE: Toketa? Selection — LMI January Puzzle Test — 30th Jan to 1st Feb @ 2016-02-02 10:20 AM (#20885 - in reply to #20773) (#20885) Top



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Not so important statistics - While Japan has the highest number of participants in this test, there is none from Japan in top 10. That is first time in any LMI puzzle test. I suppose the only way to keep them out of the top is ask them to author tests :)
vopani
Subject: RE: Toketa? Selection — LMI January Puzzle Test — 30th Jan to 1st Feb @ 2016-02-02 1:49 PM (#20886 - in reply to #20885) (#20886) Top


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debmohanty - 2016-02-02 10:20 AM

Not so important statistics - While Japan has the highest number of participants in this test, there is none from Japan in top 10. That is first time in any LMI puzzle test. I suppose the only way to keep them out of the top is ask them to author tests :)

Wow! No wonder Prasanna keeps asking when will Japan host the WPC :-)
yureklis
Subject: RE: Toketa? Selection — LMI January Puzzle Test — 30th Jan to 1st Feb @ 2016-02-02 2:19 PM (#20887 - in reply to #20885) (#20887) Top


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debmohanty - 2016-02-02 10:20 AM

Not so important statistics - While Japan has the highest number of participants in this test, there is none from Japan in top 10. That is first time in any LMI puzzle test. I suppose the only way to keep them out of the top is ask them to author tests :)


Ahhhaaaa cool :D
An LMI player
Subject: Re: Toketa? Selection — LMI January Puzzle Test — 30th Jan to 1st Feb @ 2016-02-02 6:20 PM (#20889 - in reply to #20773) (#20889) Top


 How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? Fairly balanced
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Your 3 most favorite puzzles of the contest. Compass
 Your 3 most favorite puzzles of the contest. Statue Park
 Your 3 most favorite puzzles of the contest. Max Arrow Castle Wall


chaotic_iak
Subject: Re: Toketa? Selection — LMI January Puzzle Test — 30th Jan to 1st Feb @ 2016-02-02 7:03 PM (#20892 - in reply to #20773) (#20892) Top



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Well, barely missing top three. Still targeting for a top three so I can get my name mentioned. :P
rob
Subject: Re: Toketa? Selection — LMI January Puzzle Test — 30th Jan to 1st Feb @ 2016-02-02 10:54 PM (#20895 - in reply to #20773) (#20895) Top


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Wow, I can't say I expected a chance to win, let alone by such a margin. Of course some factors played to my advantage: most Japanese top solvers didn't compete, the puzzles and types were on the geometric side and intuition-friendly, I own and have solved most of the three existing Toketa books. Still, very happy, thanks again!

I think the second Angle Loop is a great puzzle, I prefer it to the original from the solution booklet: I feel it sets up the final trick very elegantly. Of course that's after having figured it out quickly, I might well think differently otherwise...
kiwijam
Subject: Re: Toketa? Selection — LMI January Puzzle Test — 30th Jan to 1st Feb @ 2016-02-03 2:42 AM (#20901 - in reply to #20773) (#20901) Top




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Very well done to Rob, we are having a good start to the year!
His first LMI victory, and my first LMI podium (if you don't include Riad's April optimising contests...).
I was on holiday all last week without my Toketa books (oh no!), so had no chance to prepare. Perhaps that made my mind 'fresher'?
I was doing well until the end approached, then I sat for 8 minutes looking at the "easy" Angle Loop and constantly penciling and erasing on that squares grid... curiously I had little trouble with the harder Angle Loop, it was logically solvable (although I was still slow to join it up).
Thank you to the authors, the puzzles were great, and nicer than the practise set. ;)
brecher92
Subject: Re: Toketa? Selection — LMI January Puzzle Test — 30th Jan to 1st Feb @ 2016-02-05 5:57 AM (#20917 - in reply to #20773) (#20917) Top




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This looks like a great set of puzzles, but 2 hours in one sitting is just too much for me. In the future maybe two separate contests of 1 hour each?
devarajand
Subject: Re: Toketa? Selection — LMI January Puzzle Test — 30th Jan to 1st Feb @ 2016-02-05 7:51 AM (#20918 - in reply to #20773) (#20918) Top




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Will some one post a walk through for both Angle loop puzzles
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