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Location: United Kingdom | purifire - 2010-10-12 8:17 AM
though Im not a great fan ( read solver ) of puzzles, this is one test I am definitely going to attempt .... not everyday we get a chance to attempt puzzles by Thomas 
Rishi
Perhaps not every day, but certainly every week :)
I must say I'm looking forward to this one and have no doubts at all this will make up for the failings of the last test! Especially the Numberlink. Although I'm a little disappointed to see that 0 is definitely out of the set for the mutant "TomTom" ;) |
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Location: United States | amitsowani - 2010-10-12 5:59 PM
In Simple Loop Mutant :
Rule says : All cells need not be visited.
and the answer key says : Starting from "A"..........
Can we assume that the cell with "A" in it will definitely be visited?
This is a safe assumption, but you'll realize when you see the puzzle that knowing A is visited is not really a benefit over a version of the puzzle with no letters inside. |
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Location: Bulgaria | Here's a question about the mutant nurikabe.
Quote from the IB: Each shape represents exactly one white area in the grid and each white area is represented by exactly one shape outside the grid"
Does this mean that there will be no more than 1 "1" / 1 "2" / 2 "3"s / 5 "4"s / etc in the puzzle, due to the limited number of possible n-ominoes? |
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Location: United States | StGeorge - 2010-10-12 9:23 PM
Here's a question about the mutant nurikabe.
Quote from the IB: Each shape represents exactly one white area in the grid and each white area is represented by exactly one shape outside the grid"
Does this mean that there will be no more than 1 "1" / 1 "2" / 2 "3"s / 5 "4"s / etc in the puzzle, due to the limited number of possible n-ominoes?
There will be no repeated shapes outside the grid in this puzzle, so your "limits" are correct for what you might expect. Note that just like the example each island still maintains its correct number so if there is just 1 "3" island outside, say the bent one, then you know the 3 in the grid must adopt the bent shape and not the linear shape, which would not be the case in the regular puzzle. |
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About the Mutants : While most of the mutants look interesting, the Masyu mutant look best to me.
While the example is too small to reveal much, I invite others to create bigger size puzzles and share here
How about this? (Answer is here: Figonometry)
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Location: India | figonometry - 2010-10-14 4:56 AM
How about this? (Answer is here: Figonometry)
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Location: United States | Very nice puzzle figonometry
I post (at least) one puzzle on my blog every week, and this week's Friday Puzzle will be an example of one of the mutants I've made for the test. I'm running a poll on my blog for the next day to determine what that example will be, so please make your opinion heard. I'll link to the puzzle here when it is posted, around 8 AM GMT on Friday.
Edited by motris 2010-10-14 7:37 AM
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Location: India | motris - 2010-10-14 7:29 AM
I post (at least ) one puzzle on my blog every week, and this week's Friday Puzzle will be an example of one of the mutants I've made for the test. I'm running a poll on my blog for the next day to determine what that example will be, so please make your opinion heard. I'll link to the puzzle here when it is posted, around 8 AM GMT on Friday. |
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Location: India | If anyone is in Bangalore and want to take this test offline with some of us, please read here. Sorry about hijacking this thread. |
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Location: India | The password protected puzzle booklet is uploaded. motris has already explained the layout of the pdf is already explained here.
Also, the cover page has a points table that can also be used to keep track of solved puzzles. |
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Location: India | Like every other test, we'll be displaying the results as soon as a player finishes the test. So please stick to the answer format.
The submission site is designed such that it will warn when an answer is typed in an unexpected format.
For example see image below,
[ In the top box commas are unexpected. In the bottom box, 6 is unexpected. ]
Before submitting, please make sure that you don't have any warnings in red color.
However, even if you have warnings, your submission will be successful, your answer will be recorded without any issues.
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Location: India | About submission time recording -
Please note that there is only one "Submit Answers" button for all 30 puzzles.
When you click on "Submit Answers", all the modified answers will be submitted. ('modified' meaning 'modified since you last submitted')
So individual submission time for each puzzle is stored in our database.
You can submit as many times as you want, before you time ends.
At any point in time, you can look at the message below "Submit Answers" button and see how many submissions are recorded.
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Location: United States | Many of you voted, and I wrote a Shape Nurikabe example to introduce one of the new mutants. Here is a Shape Nurikabe that follows the rules outlined in the IB; a similarly sized puzzle willl be in the Decathlon.
Find the answer here: Shape Nurikabe Answer.
Best of luck and skill to all the competitors this weekend! |
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Location: United States | Fun! You say similarly sized, will it also be similar difficulty level? |
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Location: United States | The Instructions for the Big Tent say:
1. The numbers outside the grid indicate the number of tents in
that row or column.
2. ... each (Big) tent occupies two adjacent squares instead of just
one square.
In the Big Tent example, there is one row and one column that denote the number 3 (meaning 3 tents), but there are only 2 tents in each taking up 3 cells. Therefore, on the Big Tent puzzle, the numbers outside the grid are actually supposed to indicate the number of cells that have tents in that row or column.
I have not done the test yet, but I feel that this instruction and example discrepancy should be clarified or corrected. I see that you have addressed it in the forum, but many will not have read the forum and will struggle unnecessarily with the mutant, so you should probably update the .pdf.
Thanks.
Ken Levine
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Location: India | Hi Ken, as you mentioned, from the example image in the Big Tents Party it is pretty clear that the numbers represent the number of cells.
motris has already fixed these in his local copy, but we don't plan to upload the latest version in the server. Lot of players have already downloaded the IB, they won't download again unless we make an announcement. Making an announcement is always confusing, and we would like to avoid it since it is only an obvious mistake in the IB. |
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Location: United States | The test was sooo much fun, Thanks Thomas Snyder!! The bad thing though, is I've had my first submission error... forgot a line on a skyscrapers... Oh well, thanks again!! |
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Location: United Kingdom | If you are stupid and enter the Tents Mutant solution into the Tents Hard box, is there any chance of getting credit anyway? :) (which, erm, I did... oops) |
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Location: India | Gareth - 2010-10-16 8:11 AM
If you are stupid and enter the Tents Mutant solution into the Tents Hard box, is there any chance of getting credit anyway? :) (which, erm, I did... oops)
Marked the tent as correct. Please check your score again. |
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Location: India | Really nice puzzles!! (though i scored bad) Had real fun!! Thank you so much Thomas and LMI!! |
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Location: United States | Well, I decided to make my grand Logic Masters India debut, and try one of these test things for fun. The puzzles, as was to be expected given the author, were very very high quality, and I got a real rush every time I managed to finish a puzzle within the time limit.
I made a very n00bish mistake by waiting until 22 minutes were left before submitting any answers; that may have cost me a ton of time bonus points. I guess I wasn't sure whether I could submit more than once or not, so I waited a bit, to be safe. :[ |
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Location: United States | Great Test. Thanks. Any chance of points on an easy battleship for entering 1's and 0's instead of n's and o's? |
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Location: United States | Best test I have done on LMI yet. Nice pace and great puzzles. On the Hard Nurikabe, I had a brain lapse and did my 0s and 1s correct for Column A and then reversed them on Column. Any relief would be appreciated. Sorry to beg, but I feel compelled. Thanks for everything about this competition and website. Thanks.
Ken Levine
"TheSubro"
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Location: India | mathgrant - 2010-10-16 9:36 AM
Well, I decided to make my grand Logic Masters India debut, and try one of these test things for fun. The puzzles, as was to be expected given the author, were very very high quality, and I got a real rush every time I managed to finish a puzzle within the time limit.
I made a very n00bish mistake by waiting until 22 minutes were left before submitting any answers; that may have cost me a ton of time bonus points. I guess I wasn't sure whether I could submit more than once or not, so I waited a bit, to be safe. :[
Grand LMI debut! That was nice.
You could submit as many times as you want. We just explained this few posts back (in this thread itself)
Also, you can check your score immediately after you complete the test. |
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Location: India | Amazing set of high quality puzzles Thomas. It definitely is one of the best tests at LMI so far.
Detailed feedback about puzzles on Monday :-) |
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