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purifire
Subject: RE: Puzzles in Mock 17 @ 2010-03-18 5:03 PM (#274 - in reply to #273) (#274) Top



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Thanks Gotroch... One last question... Can there be more than one instance of such sums...

For example 10 is outisde... I can have 4 and 6 as one adjoining pair and also 3 & 7 again in the same row?
debmohanty
Subject: Re: Mock Test 17 @ 2010-03-18 5:09 PM (#275 - in reply to #274) (#275) Top



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i think it is clear in the instruction " at least one couple of consecutive cells in that row/column which sum is equal to this number"

so you can 4&6 as one adjoining pair, and also 3&7 as another in the same row/column
purifire
Subject: Re: Mock Test 17 @ 2010-03-18 5:20 PM (#276 - in reply to #275) (#276) Top



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But will these single/multiple "killer cells" be marked?? that is my question :D
Gotroch
Subject: Re: Mock Test 17 @ 2010-03-18 6:42 PM (#278 - in reply to #276) (#278) Top




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purifire - 2010-03-18 5:20 PM

But will these single/multiple "killer cells" be marked?? that is my question :D


No, cells will not be marked.
Because If I mark all these cells, then puzzle becomes standard killer sudoku. :)
purifire
Subject: Re: Mock Test 17 @ 2010-03-18 7:37 PM (#279 - in reply to #278) (#279) Top



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Gotroch..Thanks for clarifying... but then all sorts of different questions are coming ot my head...lol
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Subject: Re: Mock Test 17 @ 2010-03-19 12:32 AM (#280 - in reply to #279) (#280) Top




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lolz you better get some sleep before the competition.... your head sure seems to be spinning at the moment :P :D
purifire
Subject: Re: Mock Test 17 @ 2010-03-19 2:02 PM (#281 - in reply to #280) (#281) Top



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No Time to sleep buddy... :D

Office ....practice.... preparation for mock 19 ..... married life (not necessarily in the same order ) hell... 24 hrs is too less in a day...lol
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Subject: Re: Mock Test 17 @ 2010-03-19 4:17 PM (#282 - in reply to #281) (#282) Top




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purifire - 2010-03-19 2:02 PM

No Time to sleep buddy... :D

Office ....practice.... preparation for mock 19 ..... married life (not necessarily in the same order ) hell... 24 hrs is too less in a day...lol


Could also you guard my two boys ( two little angels;) ...) this weekend so that I can make the tournament quietly ???? :laugh:
purifire
Subject: Re: Mock Test 17 @ 2010-03-19 4:44 PM (#283 - in reply to #282) (#283) Top



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valsudo - 2010-03-19 4:17 PM

purifire - 2010-03-19 2:02 PM

No Time to sleep buddy... :D

Office ....practice.... preparation for mock 19 ..... married life (not necessarily in the same order ) hell... 24 hrs is too less in a day...lol


Could also you guard my two boys ( two little angels;) ...) this weekend so that I can make the tournament quietly ???? :laugh:



Send them over!!!! The more the merrier :D
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Subject: Re: Mock Test 17 @ 2010-03-19 6:24 PM (#284 - in reply to #254) (#284) Top


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could we have some practice puzzles to solve online?
Gotroch
Subject: RE: Mock Test 17 @ 2010-03-19 8:16 PM (#285 - in reply to #254) (#285) Top




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We have finished Instruction Booklet for Mock Test 17 and sent to Deb.
Booklet file is also attached in this post.

Edited by Gotroch 2010-03-19 8:18 PM




Attachments
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Attachments SudokuMockTest17IB.pdf (54KB - 6 downloads)
debmohanty
Subject: Re: Mock Test 17 @ 2010-03-19 10:04 PM (#286 - in reply to #254) (#286) Top



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Renamed the attached file.

It is also uploaded at mock17 page
neerajmehrotra
Subject: Re: Mock Test 17 @ 2010-03-19 11:16 PM (#287 - in reply to #254) (#287) Top




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@ Gotroch
Pan Digital: Apply standard sudoku rules for the digits 1 to 9. For each group of shaded areas use this
rule: First two rows of add up to the number formed on the third row. In these areas
numbers can be repeated.

What does the last line mean..............In these areas
numbers can be repeated.
Since if the numbers are repeated then the standard sudoku rules do not apply............please clarify

Edited by neerajmehrotra 2010-03-19 11:18 PM
Gotroch
Subject: Re: Mock Test 17 @ 2010-03-19 11:30 PM (#288 - in reply to #287) (#288) Top




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They can't be repeated in the booklet example, as the shaded 3x3 areas in example perfetcly cover standard sudoku 3x3 boxes.
In competetive puzzle, placement of these areas will be different so it will allow repeating of digits.
neerajmehrotra
Subject: Re: Mock Test 17 @ 2010-03-20 12:45 AM (#289 - in reply to #254) (#289) Top




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Oh OK..thanx
neerajmehrotra
Subject: Re: Mock Test 17 @ 2010-03-20 12:50 AM (#290 - in reply to #254) (#290) Top




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Outside Killer in the IB........Is the solution unique

I am getting two solutions for the puzzle in the IB.....R5C2 can be both 4 and 5 with R6C2 and similarly R5C7 can be both 4 and 5 with R6C7............can somebody throw some light on this
Gotroch
Subject: Re: Mock Test 17 @ 2010-03-20 1:07 AM (#291 - in reply to #290) (#291) Top




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neerajmehrotra - 2010-03-20 12:50 AM

Outside Killer in the IB........Is the solution unique

I am getting two solutions for the puzzle in the IB.....R5C2 can be both 4 and 5 with R6C2 and similarly R5C7 can be both 4 and 5 with R6C7............can somebody throw some light on this


I have checked the example and it is OK, so you probably made some mistake somewhere.
Check attached solution:

neerajmehrotra
Subject: Re: Mock Test 17 @ 2010-03-20 1:20 AM (#292 - in reply to #254) (#292) Top




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thanx a lot.............yep i was committing a mistake...........thanx again
amitsowani
Subject: Re: Mock Test 17 @ 2010-03-20 1:23 AM (#293 - in reply to #290) (#293) Top



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The Outside Killer in the IB has a unique solution.
I am pasting the solution here so that you can verify where you made a mistake.

The clue with the 14 on the left was simply awesome :)

amitsowani
Subject: Re: Mock Test 17 @ 2010-03-20 1:26 AM (#294 - in reply to #293) (#294) Top



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Too late in solving and posting the solution :)
neerajmehrotra
Subject: Re: Mock Test 17 @ 2010-03-20 1:35 AM (#295 - in reply to #254) (#295) Top




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stiill many thanx..................I too was able to solve it...........was doing a silly mistake AS USUAL
jwilsonian
Subject: Re: Mock Test 17 @ 2010-03-20 3:42 AM (#297 - in reply to #254) (#297) Top




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Hello,

I am confused with regards to the Relay in section 1 of the Instruction booklet. I solved the first puzzle, but then none of the 3x3 blocks fit in the second puzzle. Can you please clarify what it is I am supposed to do exactly? Thanks! A cursory examination of submitting a row from puzzle 3 into 4 also shows that none are possible, even before I solve. Confused...
Gotroch
Subject: Re: Mock Test 17 @ 2010-03-20 3:57 AM (#298 - in reply to #297) (#298) Top




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jwilsonian - 2010-03-20 3:42 AM

Hello,

I am confused with regards to the Relay in section 1 of the Instruction booklet. I solved the first puzzle, but then none of the 3x3 blocks fit in the second puzzle. Can you please clarify what it is I am supposed to do exactly? Thanks! A cursory examination of submitting a row from puzzle 3 into 4 also shows that none are possible, even before I solve. Confused...


You can change position of the transfered element. So for example You can transfer top left corner 3x3 block from one puzzle to bottom right corner (or any of possible nine positions) of second puzzle

Edited by Gotroch 2010-03-20 3:58 AM
jwilsonian
Subject: Re: Mock Test 17 @ 2010-03-20 4:08 AM (#299 - in reply to #298) (#299) Top




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Ah, excellent. Thank you for your response. That makes things a lot easier...
debmohanty
Subject: Re: Mock Test 17 @ 2010-03-20 6:12 AM (#301 - in reply to #266) (#301) Top



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Please note : As per the IB, [red]Round1 and Round2 both are of 60 minutes[/red] now.
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