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ISC2011 - Online Qualification on 23rd April
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lmunira
Subject: Re: ISC2011 - Online Qualification on 23rd April @ 2011-04-18 2:47 PM (#4058 - in reply to #4046) (#4058) Top




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Hi,

Any idea about the number of people who will be selected from this round for the finals? Also, I hope this online qualification round is open for everybody.

Thanks,
Munira.

Edited by lmunira 2011-04-18 2:49 PM
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Subject: Re: ISC2011 - Online Qualification on 23rd April @ 2011-04-18 3:27 PM (#4059 - in reply to #4058) (#4059) Top




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lmunira - 2011-04-18 2:47 PM

Hi,

Any idea about the number of people who will be selected from this round for the finals? Also, I hope this online qualification round is open for everybody.

Thanks,
Munira.

We'll select 15 from the online round.
Not sure what you mean by "everybody". Do you mean international participants? It is open to them for playing, but they can't qualify for ISC.
utkaarsh
Subject: Re: ISC2011 - Online Qualification on 23rd April @ 2011-04-18 3:57 PM (#4060 - in reply to #4046) (#4060) Top




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Will the position bonus be amongst all players or for ISC players , will it be different,
also those who have already qualified thru regional rounds,will their scores be counted for postion bonus
debmohanty
Subject: Re: ISC2011 - Online Qualification on 23rd April @ 2011-04-18 4:08 PM (#4061 - in reply to #4060) (#4061) Top



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utkaarsh - 2011-04-18 3:57 PM

Will the position bonus be amongst all players or for ISC players , will it be different,
also those who have already qualified thru regional rounds,will their scores be counted for postion bonus

Utkaarsh, Would it matter if we do either way?
The aim is to select top 15 Indian players who haven't qualified from regional rounds.
utkaarsh
Subject: Re: ISC2011 - Online Qualification on 23rd April @ 2011-04-18 7:15 PM (#4062 - in reply to #4046) (#4062) Top




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Deb true, looks like it will not matter either ways,
i thot no harm if it is clarified,


Edited by utkaarsh 2011-04-18 7:30 PM
Fred76
Subject: Re: ISC2011 - Online Qualification on 23rd April @ 2011-04-18 8:34 PM (#4063 - in reply to #4062) (#4063) Top



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Nice IB, with easy grids, except Inequality Sudoku !
I'm not able to solve it... Can somebody explain how he cracked this one?

Thanks

Fred
debmohanty
Subject: Re: ISC2011 - Online Qualification on 23rd April @ 2011-04-18 9:09 PM (#4064 - in reply to #4063) (#4064) Top



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Fred76 - 2011-04-18 8:34 PM

Nice IB, with easy grids, except Inequality Sudoku !
I'm not able to solve it... Can somebody explain how he cracked this one?

Thanks

Fred
Copied from http://www.worldpuzzle.org/wiki/index.php/Comparative_Sudoku which in turn was copied from WSC3 IB
Fred76
Subject: Re: ISC2011 - Online Qualification on 23rd April @ 2011-04-18 9:18 PM (#4065 - in reply to #4064) (#4065) Top



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debmohanty - 2011-04-18 9:09 PM

Fred76 - 2011-04-18 8:34 PM

Nice IB, with easy grids, except Inequality Sudoku !
I'm not able to solve it... Can somebody explain how he cracked this one?

Thanks

Fred
Copied from http://www.worldpuzzle.org/wiki/index.php/Comparative_Sudoku which in turn was copied from WSC3 IB


I think I'm able to solve this one: http://www.worldpuzzle.org/wiki/images/d/d0/Comparativesudoku-puzzl... .

Look at the IB, it's definitely not the same ! Are you sure the grid in the IB has a unique solution?

Fred
debmohanty
Subject: Re: ISC2011 - Online Qualification on 23rd April @ 2011-04-18 9:23 PM (#4066 - in reply to #4065) (#4066) Top



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Fred76 - 2011-04-18 9:18 PM


I think I'm able to solve this one: http://www.worldpuzzle.org/wiki/images/d/d0/Comparativesudoku-puzzl... .

Look at the IB, it's definitely not the same ! Are you sure the grid in the IB has a unique solution?

Fred

No, it is not same. My mistake.
I just copied from some old example thinking it is same as WSC08 example (because the digits' placement were same)
Will update the IB.
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Subject: Re: ISC2011 - Online Qualification on 23rd April @ 2011-04-18 9:36 PM (#4067 - in reply to #4065) (#4067) Top


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Uploaded updated IB with correct example of Inequality
Gareth
Subject: Re: ISC2011 - Online Qualification on 23rd April @ 2011-04-19 3:05 AM (#4068 - in reply to #4067) (#4068) Top




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Edited by Gareth 2011-04-19 3:07 AM
lmunira
Subject: Re: ISC2011 - Online Qualification on 23rd April @ 2011-04-19 11:59 AM (#4069 - in reply to #4059) (#4069) Top




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Organisers - 2011-04-18 3:27 PM

lmunira - 2011-04-18 2:47 PM

Hi,

Any idea about the number of people who will be selected from this round for the finals? Also, I hope this online qualification round is open for everybody.

Thanks,
Munira.

We'll select 15 from the online round.
Not sure what you mean by "everybody". Do you mean international participants? It is open to them for playing, but they can't qualify for ISC.


By Everybody I meant people who have not participated in the earlier competitions that were conducted at various colleges and/or the online round in January.

Thanks,
Munira.
jaisbansal
Subject: Re: ISC2011 - Online Qualification on 23rd April @ 2011-04-19 11:05 PM (#4075 - in reply to #4046) (#4075) Top




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Hi,

Can anyone suggest any websites where we could find more of the variants for practice, specially the 'outside sudoku' & 'product frame sudoku'?

Thanks,
Jai
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Subject: Re: ISC2011 - Online Qualification on 23rd April @ 2011-04-19 11:16 PM (#4076 - in reply to #4075) (#4076) Top



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jaisbansal - 2011-04-19 11:05 PM

Hi,

Can anyone suggest any websites where we could find more of the variants for practice, specially the 'outside sudoku' & 'product frame sudoku'?

Thanks,
Jai


go to http://www.argio-logic.net/sudoku/sudoku.php

u may have to register to play

Rishi
jaisbansal
Subject: Re: ISC2011 - Online Qualification on 23rd April @ 2011-04-20 2:31 PM (#4080 - in reply to #4076) (#4080) Top




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Thanks Rishi :-)
Kaushik Unava
Subject: Re: ISC2011 - Online Qualification on 23rd April @ 2011-04-20 10:26 PM (#4081 - in reply to #4046) (#4081) Top




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Timing
• 120 minutes
• Online round will start at 23-Apr-2011 14:00 IST
• To qualify for ISC finals, all submissions before 23-Apr-2011 16:30 IST will be considered. So if you are
aiming to qualify for ISC finals, start online round accordingly
• The round will be open for 48 hours, and results will be used by LMI ratings and UKPA ratings



This is what written in the PDF Booklet, Where in second point its mentioned that till 16.30 submission willl be considered while in 3rd point its mentioned that round will be open for 48 hours.........confusion guys........
sudoku
Subject: Re: ISC2011 - Online Qualification on 23rd April @ 2011-04-20 11:27 PM (#4082 - in reply to #4046) (#4082) Top




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HI,
I have qualified the regional round . Do I still need to participate in this to go to the finals because I got a mail from LMI saying that I am requested to take part in this one. Please clarify
Ours brun
Subject: RE: ISC2011 - Online Qualification on 23rd April @ 2011-04-21 12:55 AM (#4083 - in reply to #4046) (#4083) Top





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Kaushik, the test is open for 48 hours but only submissions made before 23 april 16:30 IST will be considered regarding indian qualifications. Other results will be used for LMI and UK ratings only. So, in your case, be careful to start the test before 14:30, so that your submissions arrive at 16:30 max.

sudoku, as far as I have understood the functioning of indian selections, you do not need to participate in the online test if you have already qualified, but I will let the organizers confirm it.
Fred76
Subject: Re: ISC2011 - Online Qualification on 23rd April @ 2011-04-21 1:59 AM (#4084 - in reply to #4075) (#4084) Top



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jaisbansal - 2011-04-19 11:05 PM

Hi,

Can anyone suggest any websites where we could find more of the variants for practice, specially the 'outside sudoku' & 'product frame sudoku'?

Thanks,
Jai


Product frame sudoku are quit rare, so I just created one : http://sudokuvariante.blogspot.com/2011/04/product-frame-n1.html

You'll find others here: http://rohanrao.blogspot.com/search/label/Product%20Frame%20Sudoku and http://www.sachsentext.de/en/taxonomy/term/263

Fred
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Subject: Re: ISC2011 - Online Qualification on 23rd April @ 2011-04-21 5:57 AM (#4085 - in reply to #4082) (#4085) Top




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sudoku - 2011-04-20 11:27 PM

HI,
I have qualified the regional round . Do I still need to participate in this to go to the finals because I got a mail from LMI saying that I am requested to take part in this one. Please clarify


It has been repeated several times, those who have qualified in regional round don't need to participate.
However, they can participate for practice. Practicing Sudoku is harmless and is the only way to improve :-)

Ours Brun is correct. It is so clearly mentioned in the rule pages. If you don't care to read the rules, you will have these kind of questions.

Regarding you qualifying from regional round, have you got any email from LMI regarding the same?
sudoku
Subject: Re: ISC2011 - Online Qualification on 23rd April @ 2011-04-21 9:14 AM (#4086 - in reply to #4085) (#4086) Top




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Yes ! and thx for the info..
jaisbansal
Subject: Re: ISC2011 - Online Qualification on 23rd April @ 2011-04-21 9:54 AM (#4087 - in reply to #4084) (#4087) Top




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Fred76 - 2011-04-21 1:59 AM

Product frame sudoku are quit rare, so I just created one : http://sudokuvariante.blogspot.com/2011/04/product-frame-n1.html

You'll find others here: http://rohanrao.blogspot.com/search/label/Product%20Frame%20Sudoku and http://www.sachsentext.de/en/taxonomy/term/263

Fred


Thanks Fred...
aakash
Subject: Re: ISC2011 - Online Qualification on 23rd April @ 2011-04-22 8:43 AM (#4093 - in reply to #4046) (#4093) Top



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Is their any disadvantage of submitting solutions to multiple sudokus at once at end as compared to submitting answer to each sudoku one by one.
(I prefer to solve more than one sudoku simultaneously and hence need time to submit the first few answers)
Do you note the submission time for each answer? And does it affect the final ranking?

Edited by aakash 2011-04-22 9:10 AM
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Subject: Re: ISC2011 - Online Qualification on 23rd April @ 2011-04-22 9:16 AM (#4094 - in reply to #4093) (#4094) Top




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There is no disadvantage submitting all solutions at the end (See notes below). But make sure that you submit as soon as you are done with all Sudokus.
As noted in IB, if more than one player submit all solutions correctly (that will definitely be the case), their ranking will be determined by 'Last Sudoku Submission time'

We keep track of submission time for each Sudoku, but that doesn't affect the final ranking.


(note 1) Players who are participating first time need to estimate how much time is required to submit per Sudoku. There is nothing worse that solving a Sudoku correctly, but not being able to submit or submitting a wrong answer because of lack of time.
(note 2) It is expected that many players will start submitting towards the end, and the server will be few seconds slow in responding.
Considering these 2 points, it might not be a bad idea submitting every 30 minutes or after solving 4 Sudokus

Edited by Organisers 2011-04-22 9:18 AM
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Subject: Re: ISC2011 - Online Qualification on 23rd April @ 2011-04-22 9:19 AM (#4095 - in reply to #4046) (#4095) Top




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Players who are solving online (directly on flash interface) should submit as soon as they are done with the Sudoku. There is absolutely no need to wait for solving other Sudokus.
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