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Indian Puzzle Championship - 2011
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Subject: Re: Indian Puzzle Championship - 2011 @ 2011-05-28 3:43 PM (#4545 - in reply to #4544) (#4545) Top




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sanket - 2011-05-28 3:41 PM

So there are no playoffs/eliminators/semis/finals,right?
The total score from all the 38 puzzles across the 3 rounds will be taken into consideration,right?

That is correct.
Time bonus will be added to score.
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Subject: Re: Indian Puzzle Championship - 2011 @ 2011-05-28 3:45 PM (#4546 - in reply to #4535) (#4546) Top




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rakesh_rai - 2011-05-28 12:17 PM

ABC Connection: Do all cells have to be used, or can some cells remain empty?

Paint-By-Number: Are the clues in the same order as seen from the given direction?

ABC Connection - You don't need to know if all cells have to be used to solve the puzzle

Paint-By-Number - Yes, clues are in order. Will change the instruction.
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Subject: RE: Indian Puzzle Championship - 2011 @ 2011-05-30 11:55 AM (#4590 - in reply to #2876) (#4590) Top





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Hi,
In the Queens Park puzzle it is mentioned that "A queen does not block another queen."
Then in that case R2C4 = 4 instead of 3, R2C5 = 5 instead of 4 and R4C4 = 3 instead of 2
I think it should rather say "A queen blocks another queen".

Please verify this.

Thanks
Ravi.



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debmohanty
Subject: RE: Indian Puzzle Championship - 2011 @ 2011-05-30 12:01 PM (#4591 - in reply to #4590) (#4591) Top



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Sorry about that statement "A queen does not block another queen".
It is not necessary, and moreover confusing.

The correct instruction will read
"Place X number of queens into the grid
so that none of them stands on
a number and each number
equals to the number of
directions from which the given
square is attacked by a queen.
A queen attacks to arbitrary
distance horizontally, vertically
and diagonally.
"

It is important to note that the number represents number of directions from which it can be attacked.
It doesn't represent number of queens that can attack the square.

Hope it is clear.
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Subject: RE: Indian Puzzle Championship - 2011 @ 2011-05-30 12:09 PM (#4592 - in reply to #4591) (#4592) Top





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Its clear now.
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Subject: RE: Indian Puzzle Championship - 2011 @ 2011-05-30 12:10 PM (#4593 - in reply to #2876) (#4593) Top



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Here is one more example of Queen



Check the 2 at R4C4, it is attacked from 2 directions (doesn't matter how many queens)
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Subject: Re: Indian Puzzle Championship - 2011 @ 2011-05-30 4:55 PM (#4605 - in reply to #4593) (#4605) Top


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In Hexa Seven, it says 'Write numbers between 1 and 7 into the white hexagons so that the neighbours of each white hexagon are all different.'
I think 'Something Is Missing' ;-) (I guess numbers cannot repeat along any line?)

Edited by Rohan Rao 2011-05-30 4:59 PM
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Subject: Re: Indian Puzzle Championship - 2011 @ 2011-05-30 5:03 PM (#4607 - in reply to #4605) (#4607) Top



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Rohan Rao - 2011-05-30 4:55 PM

In Hexa Seven, it says 'Write numbers between 1 and 7 into the white hexagons so that the neighbours of each white hexagon are all different.'
I think 'Something Is Missing' ;-) (I guess numbers cannot repeat along any line?)

5 is repeated across the main horizontal line in the example.
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Subject: Re: Indian Puzzle Championship - 2011 @ 2011-05-30 5:11 PM (#4608 - in reply to #4607) (#4608) Top


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debmohanty - 2011-05-30 5:03 PM

Rohan Rao - 2011-05-30 4:55 PM

In Hexa Seven, it says 'Write numbers between 1 and 7 into the white hexagons so that the neighbours of each white hexagon are all different.'
I think 'Something Is Missing' ;-) (I guess numbers cannot repeat along any line?)

5 is repeated across the main horizontal line in the example.

I misunderstood it. It is correct.
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Subject: Re: Indian Puzzle Championship - 2011 @ 2011-05-30 7:46 PM (#4612 - in reply to #2876) (#4612) Top




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for the Puzzle "TRID", will the range be given or we wil need to identify while sovling the puzzle,
in the example it is not mentioned

Edited by utkaarsh 2011-05-30 7:52 PM
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Subject: Re: Indian Puzzle Championship - 2011 @ 2011-05-30 10:46 PM (#4616 - in reply to #2876) (#4616) Top



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1) AREA OCCUPATION (Filomino)
Is it like size if 4*4 so the numbers used are 1-4.
2)Different Sums
sums by coincidence are 0,1,2,3,4,5,6.
but is it always true or there may be a gap in bigger puzzles like 0,1,2,5,......
3)Tiger in the woods
rule says that path is allowed to take a turn after hitting either a black square or a wall ..
but at r6c3 teh path is changing.. please check it !!!!!
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Subject: Re: Indian Puzzle Championship - 2011 @ 2011-05-31 5:39 AM (#4621 - in reply to #4616) (#4621) Top



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swaroop2011 - 2011-05-30 10:46 PM

1) AREA OCCUPATION (Filomino)
Is it like size if 4*4 so the numbers used are 1-4.
No.
"Size of the grid" and "digits used" aren't related. Btw, I hope you (and others) have checked out Fillomino-Fillia

swaroop2011 - 2011-05-30 10:46 PM
2)Different Sums
sums by coincidence are 0,1,2,3,4,5,6.
but is it always true or there may be a gap in bigger puzzles like 0,1,2,5,......
You are asking me to reveal about the puzzle in the competition. I'm not going to do that.

swaroop2011 - 2011-05-30 10:46 PM
3)Tiger in the woods
rule says that path is allowed to take a turn after hitting either a black square or a wall ..
but at r6c3 teh path is changing.. please check it !!!!!
The outside border also serves as wall.
Here is another example
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Subject: Re: Indian Puzzle Championship - 2011 @ 2011-05-31 6:09 AM (#4622 - in reply to #4612) (#4622) Top



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utkaarsh - 2011-05-30 7:46 PM

for the Puzzle "TRID", will the range be given or we wil need to identify while sovling the puzzle,
in the example it is not mentioned
Range will be mentioned. Missed it putting for the example.
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Subject: Re: Indian Puzzle Championship - 2011 @ 2011-05-31 3:36 PM (#4624 - in reply to #4621) (#4624) Top



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debmohanty - 2011-05-31 5:39 AM

swaroop2011 - 2011-05-30 10:46 PM

1) AREA OCCUPATION (Filomino)
Is it like size if 4*4 so the numbers used are 1-4.
No.
"Size of the grid" and "digits used" aren't related. Btw, I hope you (and others) have checked out Fillomino-Fillia

swaroop2011 - 2011-05-30 10:46 PM
2)Different Sums
sums by coincidence are 0,1,2,3,4,5,6.
but is it always true or there may be a gap in bigger puzzles like 0,1,2,5,......
You are asking me to reveal about the puzzle in the competition. I'm not going to do that.

swaroop2011 - 2011-05-30 10:46 PM
3)Tiger in the woods
rule says that path is allowed to take a turn after hitting either a black square or a wall ..
but at r6c3 teh path is changing.. please check it !!!!!
The outside border also serves as wall.
Here is another example


hey deb,
FOR TIGER IN THE WOODS
in the puzzle booklet the point where it is changing is hitting the path not the wall.[r6c3]
Tejal Phatak
Subject: Re: Indian Puzzle Championship - 2011 @ 2011-05-31 3:51 PM (#4625 - in reply to #4624) (#4625) Top




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Swaroop, I guess in the IB example, the path starts from the circle and not from the other end.
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Subject: Re: Indian Puzzle Championship - 2011 @ 2011-05-31 3:54 PM (#4626 - in reply to #4625) (#4626) Top



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Swaroop, the path starts at R3C1 as Tejal mentioned. Also the boundary wall is missing from the image, if that is your point.
Here is the redrawn image



Note that in the championship it is not necessary to mark the start or end. If the path correctly is drawn, you will get full points.
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Subject: Re: Indian Puzzle Championship - 2011 @ 2011-05-31 6:05 PM (#4631 - in reply to #2876) (#4631) Top



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hey thanks deb,
in the IB the start point is given at r4c5 and circle is given at r3c1 thats why it was confusing..(in solution). now its very clear with above image.
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Subject: Re: Indian Puzzle Championship - 2011 @ 2011-05-31 6:12 PM (#4632 - in reply to #2876) (#4632) Top



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1)FOUR SNAILS
i think it can have multiple solutions...
the N of newyork is possible at r5c1,r4c1 and r6c1.
also the N and S of athens can be placed in r4c4,r4c5,r4c6,r5c5,r5c6 differently..

2)NEWS

in the solution it is given wrong and i am not getting proper solution..
in r2c3 it is W and r1c4 it is E but the rule says " directions in region should satisfy their positions with respect to each other"..
please clarify it..??
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Subject: Re: Indian Puzzle Championship - 2011 @ 2011-05-31 6:16 PM (#4633 - in reply to #4632) (#4633) Top



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swaroop2011 - 2011-05-31 6:12 PM

1)FOUR SNAILS
i think it can have multiple solutions...
the N of newyork is possible at r5c1,r4c1 and r6c1.
also the N and S of athens can be placed in r4c4,r4c5,r4c6,r5c5,r5c6 differently..

I think you are missing the given "-"
There are dashes at R5C1 R5C5
You can't put a letter where dash is already present
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Subject: Re: Indian Puzzle Championship - 2011 @ 2011-05-31 6:23 PM (#4634 - in reply to #4633) (#4634) Top



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debmohanty - 2011-05-31 6:16 PM

swaroop2011 - 2011-05-31 6:12 PM

1)FOUR SNAILS
i think it can have multiple solutions...
the N of newyork is possible at r5c1,r4c1 and r6c1.
also the N and S of athens can be placed in r4c4,r4c5,r4c6,r5c5,r5c6 differently..

I think you are missing the given "-"
There are dashes at R5C1 R5C5
You can't put a letter where dash is already present


hey srry for that it was not visible in my print out ..
and what about four snails?
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Subject: Re: Indian Puzzle Championship - 2011 @ 2011-05-31 6:26 PM (#4635 - in reply to #4634) (#4635) Top



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swaroop2011 - 2011-05-31 6:23 PM
and what about four snails?

The puzzle, solution and rules match perfectly to me.
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Subject: Re: Indian Puzzle Championship - 2011 @ 2011-05-31 6:31 PM (#4637 - in reply to #4635) (#4637) Top



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debmohanty - 2011-05-31 6:26 PM

swaroop2011 - 2011-05-31 6:23 PM
and what about four snails?

The puzzle, solution and rules match perfectly to me.


can u clarify how the region r1c3,r1c4,r2c3 satisfies the rules please..!
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Subject: Re: Indian Puzzle Championship - 2011 @ 2011-05-31 6:39 PM (#4640 - in reply to #4633) (#4640) Top




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Swaroop, in "NEWS"... For W-E, it need not necessarily be in the same row. In a specific region, if you are to place W-E, just make sure W is on the left hand-side and E on the right hand-side. It may or may not be in the same row. Similarly, if you see R2C4 and R3C5, N-S they are not placed in the same column.

I hope that answers your doubt.
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Subject: Re: Indian Puzzle Championship - 2011 @ 2011-05-31 6:57 PM (#4641 - in reply to #4640) (#4641) Top



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Tejal Phatak - 2011-05-31 6:39 PM

Swaroop, in "NEWS"... For W-E, it need not necessarily be in the same row. In a specific region, if you are to place W-E, just make sure W is on the left hand-side and E on the right hand-side. It may or may not be in the same row. Similarly, if you see R2C4 and R3C5, N-S they are not placed in the same column.

I hope that answers your doubt.


ya thank you..so it's similar for W and S /N and E ..
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Subject: Re: Indian Puzzle Championship - 2011 @ 2011-05-31 7:10 PM (#4642 - in reply to #4641) (#4642) Top




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