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Puzzle Marathon — 21st-29th January
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harmeet
Subject: Re: Puzzle Marathon — 21st-29th January @ 2012-01-22 6:16 PM (#6477 - in reply to #6476) (#6477) Top


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nice-Puzzles.However-I'm-wondering-why-I'didn't-get-points-for-the-last-puzzle-even-after-submitting-it-correctly(it-showed-up-as-correctly-completed)
-it-correctly(it-showed-up-as-correctly-completed).Is-there-any-time-restrictions-which-I'm-not-aware-of?
e-of?


Edited by harmeet 2012-01-22 6:17 PM
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Subject: Re: Puzzle Marathon — 21st-29th January @ 2012-01-22 6:26 PM (#6478 - in reply to #6477) (#6478) Top


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Harmeet, Richard, Swaroop, (and others who submitted in last 2 hours),
The score page is now updated to have your latest submission counted.
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Subject: Re: Puzzle Marathon — 21st-29th January @ 2012-01-23 5:55 AM (#6480 - in reply to #6478) (#6480) Top


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Graffiti Snake is now available.
motris
Subject: Re: Puzzle Marathon — 21st-29th January @ 2012-01-23 9:34 AM (#6481 - in reply to #6396) (#6481) Top




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Really fun test concept and a lot of very nice (large, but not very hard) puzzles. Thanks to all the authors and for Deb for having the grand concept.
debmohanty
Subject: RE: Puzzle Marathon — 21st-29th January @ 2012-01-23 9:37 AM (#6483 - in reply to #6396) (#6483) Top



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Congratulations to Psyho and motris, who are the first two competitors to solve all 10 puzzles apart from our live testers.

ETA : nyoroppyi is the 3rd competitor to solve all.

Edited by debmohanty 2012-01-23 11:58 AM
detuned
Subject: Re: Puzzle Marathon — 21st-29th January @ 2012-01-24 3:43 AM (#6485 - in reply to #6396) (#6485) Top




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I solved my kakuro too, honest I did, that brings me up to 10 as well! ;)
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Subject: Re: Puzzle Marathon — 21st-29th January @ 2012-01-24 6:38 AM (#6486 - in reply to #6485) (#6486) Top


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detuned - 2012-01-24 3:43 AM

I solved my kakuro too, honest I did, that brings me up to 10 as well! ;)




A small clarification about the score page - The score page displays partial score.
That means you can see the puzzles that you have solved. You can not see others' timings for puzzles you haven't solved. This has several implications, most importantly, the rank you see is not your final rank, even if you stop solving.
puzzlemad
Subject: Re: Puzzle Marathon — 21st-29th January @ 2012-01-24 12:36 PM (#6490 - in reply to #6396) (#6490) Top




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Thanks to all involved with this. I found it very enjoyable.
Just a quick question. Now that I've finished I can see a "w" against one of my scores and against those of other people who have finished. Is this supposed to represent the worst puzzle? If so it is not against my worst time or that of others.
Fred76
Subject: Re: Puzzle Marathon — 21st-29th January @ 2012-01-25 3:35 AM (#6491 - in reply to #6485) (#6491) Top



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detuned - 2012-01-24 3:43 AM

I solved my kakuro too, honest I did, that brings me up to 10 as well! ;)


I should perhaps look at the IB and find a second puzzle that I could perhaps solve
figonometry
Subject: Re: Puzzle Marathon — 21st-29th January @ 2012-01-25 4:06 AM (#6492 - in reply to #6396) (#6492) Top




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2706 minutes on a puzzle! All in a row, too. I'll let everyone know tomorrow if I still have a job.
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Subject: Re: Puzzle Marathon — 21st-29th January @ 2012-01-25 8:54 AM (#6494 - in reply to #6490) (#6494) Top


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puzzlemad - 2012-01-24 12:36 PM

Just a quick question. Now that I've finished I can see a "w" against one of my scores and against those of other people who have finished. Is this supposed to represent the worst puzzle? If so it is not against my worst time or that of others.


Yes, "w" is worst puzzle. There was a bug and "w" was misplaced for some. It is fixed now.

We also have added a feedback tab to the score page.
PuzzleScott
Subject: Re: Puzzle Marathon — 21st-29th January @ 2012-01-25 8:58 AM (#6495 - in reply to #6396) (#6495) Top




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Is there a source for Different Neighbors puzzles that can be practiced? The instructions refer to IPC 2010 (Indian Puzzle Championship 2010), but there are no Different Neighbors puzzles there (just "Box", with some similarities but also big differences). Thanks.

Edited by PuzzleScott 2012-01-25 8:59 AM
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Subject: Re: Puzzle Marathon — 21st-29th January @ 2012-01-25 9:04 AM (#6496 - in reply to #6396) (#6496) Top


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Check

http://forsmarts.com/pdf/fpb_04.pdf
http://diogen.h1.ru/cgi-bin/contest/result.pl?id=13


Also see other forum thread
forsmarts
Subject: Re: Puzzle Marathon — 21st-29th January @ 2012-01-25 6:18 PM (#6497 - in reply to #6496) (#6497) Top


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Administrator - 2012-01-25 9:04 AM

Check

http://forsmarts.com/pdf/fpb_04.pdf


Actually issue 5 ( http://forsmarts.com/pdf/fpb_05.pdf ) contains the giant version of Different Neighbours, which could be a better practice in this case :)

Edited by forsmarts 2012-01-25 6:19 PM
PuzzleScot
Subject: Re: Puzzle Marathon — 21st-29th January @ 2012-01-25 7:35 PM (#6498 - in reply to #6396) (#6498) Top




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In the instructions, it says the puzzles are "large, not hard". That, I can accept. However, when I (an average solver) need over 2 hours to do a puzzle, with no indication that amount of time might be needed, that's something to be avoided in future. I wouldn't normally start a 2 hour contest at 11:45pm, but expecting a 30-45 minute puzzle, it didn't seem unreasonable at the time.

Don't get me wrong, the puzzles are all (well, mostly) brilliant, so thanks to you and the authors for providing this mind food :)
PuzzleScot
Subject: Re: Puzzle Marathon — 21st-29th January @ 2012-01-25 8:17 PM (#6499 - in reply to #6396) (#6499) Top




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I no-one is confusing PuzzleScot with PuzzleScott!
debmohanty
Subject: Re: Puzzle Marathon — 21st-29th January @ 2012-01-25 8:23 PM (#6500 - in reply to #6499) (#6500) Top



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There is no way to get confused, thanks to your signature

Thanks for your input on specifying the expected solving time for puzzles. We certainly didn't think about it. I'm not exactly sure how we want to implement it if/when we do Marathon2. But I realize it will be very helpful to participants.
PuzzleScot
Subject: Re: Puzzle Marathon — 21st-29th January @ 2012-01-25 9:20 PM (#6501 - in reply to #6500) (#6501) Top




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A possible solution could be to have an 'average solver' among your testers. (I'm happy to offer my services)
If the average solver is taking over 60 minutes of concentrated effort, it's probably too hard, and needs more clues to simplify a little.
Likewise, top solvers taking over 30 minutes is a sufficient clue too.
rob
Subject: Re: Puzzle Marathon — 21st-29th January @ 2012-01-25 10:10 PM (#6503 - in reply to #6396) (#6503) Top


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Once you realise you're not going to make it in under 60 minutes, you can put the puzzle away and solve it the next day. So I don't really think the harder puzzles are a problem. Though I admit I also expected to have a better chance at solving the puzzles that were labeled "hard" in under one hour.
PuzzleScot
Subject: Re: Puzzle Marathon — 21st-29th January @ 2012-01-26 12:00 AM (#6504 - in reply to #6396) (#6504) Top




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To be embarrassingly honest, I didn't read all the instructions about scoring before I started! Hence my Kakuro/Sudoku being abandoned and returned to without pressure. I had naively assumed it was the total solve time that would be counted, like in all other contests.
jalbert
Subject: Re: Puzzle Marathon — 21st-29th January @ 2012-01-26 8:32 AM (#6505 - in reply to #6396) (#6505) Top




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I am trying to understand this part of the scoring instructions:

"Total score for a player will be computed by summing individual puzzle scores. For
players who submit all 10 puzzles correctly, their worst puzzle score will be
discarded."

I submitted them all correctly, but this sounds like I would have received the same score if I had stopped at nine puzzles. Or is it that the worst puzzle score is always dropped? Just wondering... either way, I had tons of fun solving!


Edited by jalbert 2012-01-26 8:32 AM
prasanna16391
Subject: Re: Puzzle Marathon — 21st-29th January @ 2012-01-26 12:23 PM (#6506 - in reply to #6505) (#6506) Top


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jalbert - 2012-01-26 8:32 AM

I submitted them all correctly, but this sounds like I would have received the same score if I had stopped at nine puzzles. Or is it that the worst puzzle score is always dropped? Just wondering... either way, I had tons of fun solving!


Depends on which puzzle you submitted last. e.g. Suppose you'd got a bonus in the last one you'd solved, and you've exceeded 1 hour in one of the previous 9, that one would be discarded and you'd have got a better score with the bonus. But of course if you'd exceeded the hour on the last puzzle too and got no bonus, then your score would be the same as it would've if you'd stopped at 9. Hope that clears it up. :)

swaroop2011
Subject: Re: Puzzle Marathon — 21st-29th January @ 2012-01-26 5:12 PM (#6507 - in reply to #6396) (#6507) Top



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Finally completed it all.. :)
It was fantastic solving all these puzzles.
my favourite puzzle was kakuro. I learned lot while solving that.
Messed up in 4 of the puzzles otherwise where i could have easily fetched up bonus..
Anyways nice ending..
Thanks to all the authors,LMI and Deb.
Will be waiting for Marathon2.
debmohanty
Subject: Re: Puzzle Marathon — 21st-29th January @ 2012-01-26 5:51 PM (#6508 - in reply to #6507) (#6508) Top



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swaroop2011 - 2012-01-26 5:12 PM
Messed up in 4 of the puzzles otherwise where i could have easily fetched up bonus..
Well done in Tapa, Loop the loops and especially in Different Neighbours. I expect to you to get 10/10/10 in M2.
katarina
Subject: Re: Puzzle Marathon — 21st-29th January @ 2012-01-26 6:03 PM (#6509 - in reply to #6506) (#6509) Top




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First I want to thanks to all organizers and authors for this excellent competition. All puzzles were great and I spend a wonderful time solving it. Yes, Kakuro drove me mad but I finally solve it, and I was more proud to myself to do that then if it was easy. I'm also happy for 2 reasons: for solving all puzzles and getting few bonuses (I'm average solver).
Difficulty of this puzzles was perfect. There are many people who already solve all puzzles, many of them get bonuses. I think this should be the point of competition which lasts for a week. Best solvers will spend more time than usually (in other online competitions) to solve puzzles but they will get bonuses and average solvers also could get bonus for some easier puzzles. And if some puzzle is too hard for you to solve it in 1 hour, you still have all week to solve it and get points. If there will be more competitions like this in the future (I hope it will be) there is no need for making easier puzzles. People will solve it too fast and then there's no point to make one week competition.
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