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Location: United States | While crocopuzzle is an everyday puzzle, you cannot compete in a day and it does not hurt your score. You choose to compete when you can, and the goals are both personal and interpersonal. So it works well as an everyday puzzle system because you opt in. I don't know, for a solver who can't do weekdays, or weekends, that this system with a rigid system really matches someone who would appreciate breaks.
Also, to be very clear as I think some people miss this, Crocopuzzle DOES NOT use a 5 minute penalty. This may be what you see reported on the published time ranking page, because until the puzzle is finished the error is not fixed. The actual penalty time is based on the median solve time of all the puzzle solvers without errors. It scales with difficulty. I think it is too punitive, as it is ~100% puzzle time value, and think Valezius at 20-30% is in a much better range with a proportional score. But indeed it can be 1m to 2h on different puzzles. |
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Location: India | Is the penalty 2 minutes or 15% now?
I would have assumed it to be 2 minutes as it was clearly mentioned before the start of CTC. But when I look at scores, I see 15% at some places, 120 minutes at some others and, 15% + 120 also at some places. |
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Location: India | rakesh_rai - 2012-02-13 6:32 PMIs the penalty 2 minutes or 15% now?
I would have assumed it to be 2 minutes as it was clearly mentioned before the start of CTC. But when I look at scores, I see 15% at some places, 120 minutes at some others and, 15% + 120 also at some places.
Hi,
Both of them are there. 2 minutes penalty in case of incorrect submission and 15% or 30% penalty in case of late attempt, that means attempting yesterday or day before yesterday puzzle.
Hope this clears your confusion.
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Location: United States | Is it possible to see other player's solve sequences? I doubt I'll ever place top 20, but I'm sure I could improve my Tapa solving by studying the solve sequences of good players. |
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Location: India | PuzzleScott - 2012-02-14 7:55 AM
Is it possible to see other player's solve sequences? I doubt I'll ever place top 20, but I'm sure I could improve my Tapa solving by studying the solve sequences of good players. Yes, allow us some time. |
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Location: United Kingdom | Most enjoyable - thank-you for this! I made some comments on UKPA's forum before noticing this discussion.
To repeat:
- It's a pity we can't see a full leaderboard for each day's puzzles...
- ... also that there are no times shown.
- A final nice touch to the interface would be right-click and drag for multiple empty cells.
- Make competitive entry valid only on that specific day (or just last 7 days), then we can discuss puzzles after they have elapsed.
My suggestions for puzzle availability and leaderboards are based on those at http://www.kwontomloop.com/ which I think works very well. |
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Location: India | PuzzleScot - 2012-02-14 4:49 PM
To repeat:
- It's a pity we can't see a full leaderboard for each day's puzzles...
- ... also that there are no times shown.
There is a different link for standings : http://logicmastersindia.com/CTC/score.asp - You should see both the tables there.
(You can't see today's timing unless you have solved today's puzzle)
PuzzleScot - 2012-02-14 4:49 PM
- A final nice touch to the interface would be right-click and drag for multiple empty cells.
Agreed.
Have no idea how to do using flash.
You can use Shift + drag for multiple empty cells (like Nikoli)
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Location: The Netherlands | Can you make it possible to log in with a different account somewhere on the CTC page. My girlfriend is visiting and we can't see where she can log in to do the puzzle. |
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Location: India | Para - 2012-02-15 11:10 AM
Can you make it possible to log in with a different account somewhere on the CTC page. My girlfriend is visiting and we can't see where she can log in to do the puzzle. Sent you alternate link - Check PM |
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Location: India | Para - 2012-02-11 2:38 AM
I see we can rewatch our own solves. Will this be the case for other people's solves once the puzzle is over?
PuzzleScott - 2012-02-14 7:55 AM
Is it possible to see other player's solve sequences? I doubt I'll ever place top 20, but I'm sure I could improve my Tapa solving by studying the solve sequences of good players. Others' Solve SequencesYou can now watch others players' solve sequences. It is available in the score page.
Please note : You can watch only if you have solved that particular day's puzzle OR if that particular day does not count towards contest points anymore (>72 hours ).
It may not be how you expected it, but I'm particularly happy about bringing this to everyone. If you have other suggestions / feedback let us know.
Edited by Rohan Rao 2012-02-15 7:29 PM
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Location: Hungary | Fantastic!
Thanks. |
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Location: India | Administrator - 2012-02-15 7:05 PM
Para - 2012-02-11 2:38 AM
I see we can rewatch our own solves. Will this be the case for other people's solves once the puzzle is over?
PuzzleScott - 2012-02-14 7:55 AM
Is it possible to see other player's solve sequences? I doubt I'll ever place top 20, but I'm sure I could improve my Tapa solving by studying the solve sequences of good players. Others' Solve SequencesYou can now watch others players' solve sequences. It is available in the score page.
Please note : You can watch only if you have solved that particular day's puzzle OR if that particular day does not count towards contest points anymore (>72 hours ).
It may not be how you expected it, but I'm particularly happy about bringing this to everyone. If you have other suggestions / feedback let us know.
This feature is awesome. But if there would have been like a 'pause' button then it would be even more useful as we could get more idea about the logic used by the solver. |
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Location: United Kingdom | It's hardly important, but the playback doesn't work entirely accurately. For example my playbacks of 11th Feb and 15th Feb are wrong - they leave unconnected regions.
This might be related to me using Chrome - when I click to 'unshade' a square it sometimes flickers on and off rapidly instead of clearing (I'm also unable to reliably mark off used clues - I think that often a single click is treated as multiple clicks).
Edited by Gareth 2012-02-16 9:46 PM
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Location: Poland | Administrator - 2012-02-15 8:17 AM
Para - 2012-02-15 11:10 AM
Can you make it possible to log in with a different account somewhere on the CTC page. My girlfriend is visiting and we can't see where she can log in to do the puzzle. Sent you alternate link - Check PM
Same problem here, can I get the alternate link as well? |
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Location: India | mucha - 2012-02-17 4:34 AM
Same problem here, can I get the alternate link as well? Sent you alternate link - Check PM |
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Location: India | Is it possible to filter results by Country like in usual LMI tests ?.
I know I am asking for something which involves effort again, if it involves more effort then do not do it, if it involves less effort then please do it.
Thanks in advance.
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Location: The Netherlands | Interesting. First top score with penalty on the 18th. |
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Location: United States | How are standings computed? E.g., CoPo for daily rank? How are cumulative standings (ToPo?) calculated from daily results? Num days in CTC cumulative standings seems to have maxed out at 6.
I'm enjoying the contest in the basement :)
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Location: India | PuzzleScott - 2012-02-23 2:03 PM
How are standings computed? E.g., CoPo for daily rank? How are cumulative standings (ToPo?) calculated from daily results? Num days in CTC cumulative standings seems to have maxed out at 6.
I'm enjoying the contest in the basement :)
Thanks.
CoTi ( Competitor's time ) = Seconds Taken * Day Factor + 120 * Number of Wrong Submissions
CoPo ( Competitor's Points) is calculated from "average CoTi of top 10% of players", median of all CoTi for the day, and your own CoTi
ToPo (Total Points) is just sum of all CoPo's across all days.
Details posted in this post : http://logicmastersindia.com/forum/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=445&s...
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Location: India | seems yesterdays was big pionts gunner,,
todays is low points stunner :p
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Location: India | With Palmer finally messing up a puzzle, everyone else has a realistic chance of topping the ladder today.
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Location: India | Administrator - 2012-02-15 7:05 PM
Others' Solve SequencesYou can now watch others players' solve sequences. It is available in the score page.
Please note : You can watch only if you have solved that particular day's puzzle OR if that particular day does not count towards contest points anymore (>72 hours ).
It may not be how you expected it, but I'm particularly happy about bringing this to everyone. If you have other suggestions / feedback let us know.
This is wonderful feature. Thanks for implementing this feature.
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Location: India | @Fred76, It looks like, after all the debate, you have finally taken up tapanje |
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Location: Switzerland | debmohanty - 2012-02-28 12:46 AM
@Fred76, It looks like, after all the debate, you have finally taken up tapanje
I slowly begin to solve "nonsudoku" puzzles. I need time to get into each new stuff. It is well-known that Swiss people are slow.
With tapas, my goal is to be competitive in the year 2062.
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Location: The Netherlands | Fred76 - 2012-02-28 3:25 AM
It is well-known that Swiss people are slow.
Fabian Cancellara really wants to have a word with you.
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