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Location: India | Logic Masters India announces May 2012 Sudoku Test — Sudoku 8X8
Dates : 12th - 14th May
IB and Submission Link : http://logicmastersindia.com/M201205S/
Author : ZUZKA HROMCOVÁ & MATÚŠ DEMIGER
There are 2 parts, each of 64 minutes. |
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Location: Switzerland | Will there be a special prize for the player finishing in 8th position?  |
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Location: India | Fred76 - 2012-05-07 4:41 AM
Will there be a special prize for the player finishing in 8th position?
Nope. 64th  |
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Location: India | Can one take a break between part A and B |
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Location: Thailand | In X sum sudoku: the clue is on the right puzzle at column 4. The number 8 is wrong. 9 is correct? |
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Location: Japan | I have one question about B6 (Surplus-deficit sudoku).
Are there any restrictions for regions with exactly 8 cells? |
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Location: India | devarajand - 2012-05-07 7:46 AM
Can one take a break between part A and B
It does not say you have to take both parts together and 'independent parts' surely implies that you can take as long a break in between as you like. Also, I'm sure you can participate in Part B before Part A if you wish, there doesn't seem to be any restriction. |
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Location: India | sinchai4547 - 2012-05-07 10:19 AM
In X sum sudoku: the clue is on the right puzzle at column 4. The number 8 is wrong. 9 is correct?
Yes, you are correct. it should be '9' on the RHS of row4. |
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Location: India | In B14: Odd-Even View Skyscraper Sudoku,
What is the use of 'skyscraper'? Isn't it simply an 'Odd-Even View Sudoku'? |
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Location: India | Rohan Rao - 2012-05-07 10:51 AM
devarajand - 2012-05-07 7:46 AM
Can one take a break between part A and B
It does not say you have to take both parts together and 'independent parts' surely implies that you can take as long a break in between as you like. Also, I'm sure you can participate in Part B before Part A if you wish, there doesn't seem to be any restriction.
There will absolutely be no restrictions between two parts. Breaks are allowed. And you are allowed to start part B before part A. |
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Location: India | Rohan Rao - 2012-05-07 11:03 AM
In B14: Odd-Even View Skyscraper Sudoku,
What is the use of 'skyscraper'? Isn't it simply an 'Odd-Even View Sudoku'? Yes, it is Odd Even View Sudoku. |
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Location: Japan | Administrator - 2012-05-07 11:23 AM
Rohan Rao - 2012-05-07 11:03 AM
In B14: Odd-Even View Skyscraper Sudoku,
What is the use of 'skyscraper'? Isn't it simply an 'Odd-Even View Sudoku'? Yes, it is Odd Even View Sudoku.
No. The example has multiple solutions as an 'Odd-Even View Sudoku' (We can swap 5 and 6 in Column 2/3).
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Location: India | The total points is 808 and time is 128 minutes. That means, a player who finishes all puzzles within the time limit is solving at the speed of at least 6-7 (and maybe more) points per minute, whereas the time bonus is just 3 points per minute. I think the time bonus should be increased.
In particular, players completing Part A and Part B would be solving at a speed greater than 5.5 points per minute and 7 points per minute respectively. The time bonus of 3 points per minute looks meager and will surely not give a good indication of the different of performances of players who complete the test before time.
Obvious Issue: Players completing Part B should be given a higher time bonus than those completing Part A. |
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Location: India | deu - 2012-05-07 11:32 AM
Administrator - 2012-05-07 11:23 AM
Rohan Rao - 2012-05-07 11:03 AM
In B14: Odd-Even View Skyscraper Sudoku,
What is the use of 'skyscraper'? Isn't it simply an 'Odd-Even View Sudoku'? Yes, it is Odd Even View Sudoku.
No. The example has multiple solutions as an 'Odd-Even View Sudoku' (We can swap 5 and 6 in Column 2/3 ).
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Location: Slovakia | Administrator - 2012-05-07 11:39 AM
deu - 2012-05-07 11:32 AM
Administrator - 2012-05-07 11:23 AM
Rohan Rao - 2012-05-07 11:03 AM
In B14: Odd-Even View Skyscraper Sudoku,
What is the use of 'skyscraper'? Isn't it simply an 'Odd-Even View Sudoku'? Yes, it is Odd Even View Sudoku.
No. The example has multiple solutions as an 'Odd-Even View Sudoku' (We can swap 5 and 6 in Column 2/3 ).
Apologies. My mistake.
There is a difference between OEVS and OEVSS. If you have in one row numbers "213..." the first visible odd skyscraper is 3, because 1 is covered by 2. |
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Location: Slovakia | Rohan Rao - 2012-05-07 11:38 AM
The total points is 808 and time is 128 minutes. That means, a player who finishes all puzzles within the time limit is solving at the speed of at least 6-7 (and maybe more) points per minute, whereas the time bonus is just 3 points per minute. I think the time bonus should be increased.
In particular, players completing Part A and Part B would be solving at a speed greater than 5.5 points per minute and 7 points per minute respectively. The time bonus of 3 points per minute looks meager and will surely not give a good indication of the different of performances of players who complete the test before time.
Obvious Issue: Players completing Part B should be given a higher time bonus than those completing Part A.
Yes, we know about it. We will talk about it with Deb soon. The bonuses may be changed. |
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Location: India | greenhorn - 2012-05-07 11:45 AM
There is a difference between OEVS and OEVSS. If you have in one row numbers "213..." the first visible odd skyscraper is 3, because 1 is covered by 2.
Ok. I get it. The example doesn't have any such case, so it was misleading. Thanks. |
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Location: India | Rohan Rao - 2012-05-07 11:51 AM
greenhorn - 2012-05-07 11:45 AM
There is a difference between OEVS and OEVSS. If you have in one row numbers "213..." the first visible odd skyscraper is 3, because 1 is covered by 2.
Ok. I get it. The example doesn't have any such case, so it was misleading. Thanks.
It did have a few examples I think, not exactly like the 213, but skyscraper logic was required. The "2" below R6C5 had to be satisfied in the first cell itself, since the 5 would block vision towards the 2. This is not the case in Even Odd View I guess, you could've had 5 in the first cell and 2 in the next with the "2" outside clue. (I'm saying this with memory of solving yesterday, so the placements may be a bit off, but the logic was there) |
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Location: India | deu - 2012-05-07 10:45 AM
I have one question about B6 (Surplus-deficit sudoku).
Are there any restrictions for regions with exactly 8 cells?
We will update the instructions - "In regions with less than or equal to 8 cells, the numbers should not repeat." |
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Location: Slovakia | deu - 2012-05-07 10:45 AM
I have one question about B6 (Surplus-deficit sudoku).
Are there any restrictions for regions with exactly 8 cells?
In the competition, there will be no regions with 8 cells.
In the IB, you should aply both rules at once - in region with 6 cells no digits may repeat and each digit should appear at least once. |
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Location: India | will the sizes be same in the competition as in the IB like 6*6 and all or all will be 9*9 ?? |
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Location: Slovakia | This test is all about Sudoku 8x8, so all the puzzles will have such size.
Edited by greenhorn 2012-05-07 2:51 PM
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Location: India | greenhorn - 2012-05-07 2:50 PM
This test is all about Sudoku 8x8, so all the puzzles will have such size.
yeah thanks
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