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akil oyunlari magazine competition — LMI August Puzzle Test — 18th-20th August 2012
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Subject: Re: akil oyunlari magazine competition — LMI August Puzzle Test — 18th-20th August 2012 @ 2012-08-12 3:45 AM (#8180 - in reply to #8168) (#8180) Top




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You can find examples of Signage on Naoki Inaba's website.

http://inabapuzzle.com/honkaku/routep.html
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Subject: Re: akil oyunlari magazine competition — LMI August Puzzle Test — 18th-20th August 2012 @ 2012-08-12 12:10 PM (#8182 - in reply to #8168) (#8182) Top




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Can the Signage rules be explained a bit more. Esp para 2.
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Subject: Re: akil oyunlari magazine competition — LMI August Puzzle Test — 18th-20th August 2012 @ 2012-08-12 12:49 PM (#8183 - in reply to #8168) (#8183) Top




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From every number,keep following the arrows until one of the grid edges is reached.You cannot skip an arrow in your way,which means all arrows are functional unless they are not obstructing your path.The significace of the number is,your path cannot reach the edge using fewer (or more)than that many arrows.
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Subject: Re: akil oyunlari magazine competition — LMI August Puzzle Test — 18th-20th August 2012 @ 2012-08-12 2:53 PM (#8184 - in reply to #8182) (#8184) Top




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devarajand - 2012-08-12 12:10 PM

Can the Signage rules be explained a bit more. Esp para 2.


Look for example at the Arrow with the 5 in R4C3.
1) The path starts with the arrow up in R5C2. Going up the next arrow you encounter is in R2C3.
2) The arrow in R2C3 points left. Going left the next arrow you encounter is in R2C2.
3) The arrow in R2C2 points down. Going down the next arrow you encounter is in R5C2.
4) The arrow in R5C2 points right. Going right the next arrow you encounter is in R5C3.
5) The arrow in R5C3 point down. Going down you don't encounter any arrows anymore and the path leaves the grid.

So you've followed the direction of 5 arrows till the path leaves the grid. This is what the clue number in R4C3 indicates.
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Subject: Re: akil oyunlari magazine competition — LMI August Puzzle Test — 18th-20th August 2012 @ 2012-08-12 3:58 PM (#8185 - in reply to #8168) (#8185) Top




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Interestingly,I wrote a rising skyscrapers variation in late 2007, only that, it asked for the digits along grey lines to also be strictly consecutive, and not just increasing.That was perhaps a little more constrained,but it depends on how the design works.I made one with the same rules as in the LMI booklet.I think the lines interact nicely with the skscraper logic here. Also posted the one that follows the rules of my version.You can see both at - http://anuragthefirst.blogspot.in/2012/08/rising-skyscrapers.html

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Subject: Re: akil oyunlari magazine competition — LMI August Puzzle Test — 18th-20th August 2012 @ 2012-08-12 5:39 PM (#8186 - in reply to #8168) (#8186) Top


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Me and Para tested the puzzle that the above post links to, and its not unique.
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Subject: Re: akil oyunlari magazine competition — LMI August Puzzle Test — 18th-20th August 2012 @ 2012-08-12 5:40 PM (#8187 - in reply to #8186) (#8187) Top



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prasanna16391 - 2012-08-12 5:39 PM

Me and Para tested the puzzle that the above post links too, and its not unique.
So, what is new?
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Subject: Re: akil oyunlari magazine competition — LMI August Puzzle Test — 18th-20th August 2012 @ 2012-08-12 6:20 PM (#8188 - in reply to #8187) (#8188) Top




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It is fixed.
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Subject: Re: akil oyunlari magazine competition — LMI August Puzzle Test — 18th-20th August 2012 @ 2012-08-12 6:33 PM (#8189 - in reply to #8188) (#8189) Top


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anurag - 2012-08-12 6:20 PM

It is fixed.


Not really.
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Subject: Re: akil oyunlari magazine competition — LMI August Puzzle Test — 18th-20th August 2012 @ 2012-08-12 7:13 PM (#8190 - in reply to #8189) (#8190) Top




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Its not easy to determine in the fixed version(with 2 more skyscraper clues) ,where 6 has to go in R7,so i added 6 inside.
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Subject: Re: akil oyunlari magazine competition — LMI August Puzzle Test — 18th-20th August 2012 @ 2012-08-12 7:51 PM (#8192 - in reply to #8190) (#8192) Top


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anurag - 2012-08-12 7:13 PM

Its not easy to determine in the fixed version(with 2 more skyscraper clues) ,where 6 has to go in R7,so i added 6 inside.


IMO, the puzzle is finally correct with a unique solution, so added back the link.
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I did not try the previous version, but this one seems fine indeed.
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Subject: Re: akil oyunlari magazine competition — LMI August Puzzle Test — 18th-20th August 2012 @ 2012-08-12 8:47 PM (#8196 - in reply to #8184) (#8196) Top




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Thanks its of great help
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Subject: Re: akil oyunlari magazine competition — LMI August Puzzle Test — 18th-20th August 2012 @ 2012-08-13 2:17 AM (#8203 - in reply to #8196) (#8203) Top


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Some more practice puzzles, 2 Spiral Battleships(well the 2nd one not so much spiral) - http://prasannaseshadri.wordpress.com/2012/08/13/puzzle-no-193-spir...
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Subject: Re: akil oyunlari magazine competition — LMI August Puzzle Test — 18th-20th August 2012 @ 2012-08-15 2:28 PM (#8207 - in reply to #8168) (#8207) Top




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So many innovative puzzles... I'm really looking forward to the actual test!

BTW, let me confirm one thing about Chained Ships; is it possible to place a ship segment on a letter?
(even if two As are covered by ship segments, the grid might be solved by connecting other letters)

Edited by Yuhei Kusui 2012-08-15 2:29 PM
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Yuhei Kusui - 2012-08-15 2:28 PM

So many innovative puzzles... I'm really looking forward to the actual test!

BTW, let me confirm one thing about Chained Ships; is it possible to place a ship segment on a letter?
(even if two As are covered by ship segments, the grid might be solved by connecting other letters)


Oooo cool approach :) I like it. But no, each given lettter pair should be connected.
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Subject: Re: akil oyunlari magazine competition — LMI August Puzzle Test — 18th-20th August 2012 @ 2012-08-16 7:40 AM (#8212 - in reply to #8209) (#8212) Top




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Yuhei Kusui - 2012-08-15 2:28 PM

So many innovative puzzles... I'm really looking forward to the actual test!

BTW, let me confirm one thing about Chained Ships; is it possible to place a ship segment on a letter?
(even if two As are covered by ship segments, the grid might be solved by connecting other letters)


Oooo cool approach :) I like it. But no, each given lettter pair should be connected.


OK. Thanks :-)
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Subject: Re: akil oyunlari magazine competition — LMI August Puzzle Test — 18th-20th August 2012 @ 2012-08-17 4:36 PM (#8218 - in reply to #8168) (#8218) Top


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Puzzle 1: 3rd rule of the puzzle transform to "Each area should contain exactly one number"

Puzzle 5: Write the 3 unused words , and ignore the Turkish letters when submitting answer.

Puzzle 9: Write the 3 unused words , and ignore the Turkish letters when submitting answer.

Time Bonus: I've changed the percentage (previous one %95) because of puzzle difficulty, so If a puzzler can get %90 of 1600 points (Total points), he/she will earn time bonus as 0,05 points per saved second.

Points distribution is available below.


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Subject: Re: akil oyunlari magazine competition — LMI August Puzzle Test — 18th-20th August 2012 @ 2012-08-17 6:08 PM (#8220 - in reply to #8168) (#8220) Top




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When you say ignore the turkish letter, do you mean "ÇÖZÜM" becomes "ZM" or "COZUM" or something else?Any information on how many words will be used will be given,or is it part of the solve?

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anurag - 2012-08-17 6:08 PM

When you say ignore the turkish letter, do you mean "ÇÖZÜM" becomes "ZM" or "COZUM" or something else?Any information on how many words will be used will be given,or is it part of the solve?


I mean that "ÇÖZÜM" should be "COZUM" when you submit.
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Here is a nurikabe loop : http://anuragthefirst.blogspot.in/2012/08/clean-cruise.html
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Subject: Re: akil oyunlari magazine competition — LMI August Puzzle Test — 18th-20th August 2012 @ 2012-08-18 9:11 AM (#8228 - in reply to #8168) (#8228) Top



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I was looking at the example for signage in IB. Can anyone share a couple of starting steps? Except the clues on the edge, where arrows obviously cannot go towards the edge, I am unable to make much of a logical headway.
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rakesh_rai - 2012-08-18 9:11 AM

I was looking at the example for signage in IB. Can anyone share a couple of starting steps? Except the clues on the edge, where arrows obviously cannot go towards the edge, I am unable to make much of a logical headway.


Since the count starts including the clue arrow itself, the 2 clues have to reach some edge within 1 arrow. e.g. The 2 clue pointing downwards at R6C4 means R7C4 will have to be an arrow pointing leftward because it has to point directly toward an edge and there's an arrow on the right. This means you can cross out all the cells to the left, and there'll be an arrow on each cell on the right.
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